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Day 2 (I got the date right this time!)
In the weeks that had passed since Frorgon’s terrible run-in with the pixies, it was that time of year again where fear spread throughout the school. So far, no one else had been attacked, but just the mere thought that something like what happened to Frorgon had spread paranoia and fear all across Hogwarts. Students walked along the corridors with their wands drawn and only talked to their closest friends. Everyone else was not trustworthy. Corazón spent his free time in the observatory, watching over his fellow students and making sure that the fear of an attack did not become reality. He had yet to find a real Slytherin, and was confused by the lack of attacks on students. Were the Slytherins going soft on them, or were they planning for an even bigger attack? What was going on?
On a cold, windy night in October, the Gryffindors were sound asleep in their beds. Classes and piles of homework had tired them beyond belief and sleep was the only way to get a break from all of the work. However, there was one student still working by the dying fireplace. Fishgle was quietly working on his Herbology homework when he heard a knock on the potrait door, and a woman’s voice saying, “Don’t you know how late it is? And how could you forget the password? I haven’t changed it in a month!”
“Just let me in, please. I forgot the password and I don’t want to get into any trouble” the student pleaded.
“No. No password, no entry. You’ll have to sleep on the floor” the Fat Lady replied, giving the student an angry look.
“If anyone is in there, please let me in!” the student pleaded. Fishgle, being the nice guy that he is, got up and walked towards the door, watching it open as he passed through it. When it finally opened, he was surprised to see that no one was there. “It must have been in my head, but why not take a look just to make sure” he thought to himself. He took a few steps out of the portrait and looked to his left. No one was there. When he looked to his right, however, he saw a group of mysterious figures right next to him in the pitch black.
“Hello, Fishgle” One of them said. “I specialize in a very specific form of torture on my enemies. I don’t humiliate them, I make them humiliate themselves! Tarantallegra!” and with that, Fishgle began to dance uncontrollably. He started doing the tango, the mumbo, the shuffle, the twist, and every other possible dance move that had ever existed in Muggle culture.
“I think we’ve done our work here. Let’s go boys.” the mysterious shadow said. With that, Fishgle was left on his own to dance his heart out. When he was discovered the next morning, he had fallen seven floors down and landed on one of the moving staircases. His legs were still moving, dancing to the music that was inside of his head.
Fishgle, a Dumbledore’s Army Member was jinxed to dance seven floors down and all the way to St. Mungos!
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours (until Wednesday, Mar 27 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)) to decide who to lynch!
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This is very interesting!
Fishgle wasn't one of the very active members in Day 1. All he does is throw suspicion on Rainbows and ray and then defends virtu. Initially this is quite a clever mafia kill, he hasn't posted much therefore his death doesn't give us much information. However, lets think about this another way.
Is there any reason for the mafia to want to shoot him? I don't think so, unless mafia want us to believe that Rainbows and Ray are mafia that virtu is town, but that's too easy surely.
Things get interesting however considering both Rainbows and ray's posts after the deadline. Rainbows pins his colours to the mast by saying that Fishgle is his one of him main scum reads going into Day 2 and ray suggests we pressure Fishgle going into Day 2. Now unless Rainbows and ray are both mafia and they're playing the cruelest game with us (in which case we might as well give up now!) I think the mafia have made a mistake.
If the mafia hadn't shot Fishgle they could very easily have jumped on this bandwagon and likely forced a mis-lynch, yet instead they waste their night kill clearing someone's name who a few of us probably thought had a good chance of being scum. I think this is a victory for the town.
I can see the mafia wanting us to go after ray or Rainbows and avoid virtu, I can almost hear the calls of, "but look Fishgle was town and he defended virtu, that must make virtu town" so because of that I'm going to stick with my guns and
##Vote: virtu.
You've got some explaining to do mate.
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I work in IT, got called in and I lost the entire of yesterday to a network crash which involved replacing main switches, had to make a temporary network out of old switches until the new ones arrived etc. I'm terribly tired today but I obviously have a lot of catching up and making up to do, especially since I also learned that whilst I've lurked and read a lot of Mafia on TL, I'm not terribly good at it myself.
Will be reading for a while, I'm also at work for the next 5 hours but I'll try and get some thoughts down, then when I get home I should have time to formulate some thoughts into posts before I fall into an abyss of sleep.
Also - I was roleblocked last night.
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Saw the Fishgle flip before I went to bed, and all I could do was laugh. Bunch of wifom associated with it, and it gives pretty much no information.
Well, I'll give virtu time to do the 'splaining. Meanwhile, everyone is lurking!
@NobodyWonder
You didn't vote D1. You've thrown some shit at a few players but have not given a concrete stance on anybody. There has been little to no scumhunting from you.
On March 23 2013 06:08 nobodywonder wrote:
I think of things, what do you think on these things too?
Well case on virtu is valid, virtu if town has terrible play, honestly I kind of want to curse virtu's play. hasn't done stuff besides defending and saying crazy stuff @Virtu are you town? haha at this pt, at least do a good job of pretending to be town.
idk about the post about Jar Jar. seems somewhat like a soft defense of Raven, but honestly I can't read too much into it right now. need some more input from frogron, raven and jarjar
Especially this quote here, you call virtu 'maybe town with terrible play' and then basically call him scum. You don't vote him... what's with this? Your posts overall seem confident, but lead nowhere in terms of a townie mindset. They toss suspicion here and there, but never push.
Step it up brohan.
##Vote: NobodyWonder
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@Ray
You've been really aggro with your reads. I want your opinion of me this game. Talk with me. The fishgle flip doesn't make either of us look particularly good. A wifom bomb by the mafia perhaps on myself, but I have no idea where it puts you.
What do you think of me, my child? Or, at least, my stance on raven / NW / virtu?
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I still find TheRavensName the most suspicious person. Here is why:
First, this post of his, which i based my case on him on D1:
On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +I gotta agree that jarjars post and hostility might be a little suspicious... however I know I did something similar in the last nmm and ended up doing some pretty decent work so I see no reason to punish it till after other people show up. Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling. - Raven "agrees with me" that JarJar is hostile. I have never implied i think JarJar is being hostile. Raven is basically saying i think JarJar is hostile which is a pure lie. Because i don't think so. - Raven is saying "JarJar might be suspicious but might not be". What's the point of saying so? Someone is suspicious or not. Mafia tends to do that because they would already know they are accusing a townie and it's easier to retract from your accusation if you give yourself an out in the first place.- "Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling". Spreading fear. There is no point saying this kinda stuff if you are town. We need discussion and you are not promoting it here at all. You are doing the opposite. This is not townielike at all.
Then he tries to make me look bad. Look at this exchange:
On March 23 2013 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TheRavensName:
Why are you ignoring the fact that i called Frorgon out right after he made his post about you and JarJar? You should really read the whole thread and not only the parts that fit into your cases / suspicions.
On March 23 2013 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 07:52 TheRavensName wrote:On March 23 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 23 2013 07:35 TheRavensName wrote:On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2013 23:03 Frorgon wrote:
What's wrong Raven? You guys trying to cover each other's ass? If they are covering each other, why would JarJar point out Raven's suspicious actions? Is this what your refering to each other? This is hardly calling him out. Your disagreeing with his post and then just walking away from it, instead of asking him why does he think we are covering each other when Jarjar has called me suspicious. Isn't that exactly what i am asking there? But there is no follow up by you for the purpose of trying to get an answer out of him would be my point. But that's not true at all. I can't make Frorgon post when i want him to. It was a simple question i assumed he would answer the next time he posts. Which he did. I didn't buy his answer as i explained a couple of posts ago. And i think he is scummy. I'm not giving anyone a free pass but it definitely does not help i confront Frorgon or anyone about the same things they have not been able to answer to yet. That kinda stuff will only shit up the thread and does not help at all.
After this he just drops the issue without even saying if he thinks i'm wrong or if he agrees with me. The accusation in the first place is a lie as i have pointed out very clearly in the quotes.
This masterpiece is from N1:
On March 25 2013 01:01 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 25 2013 00:33 TheRavensName wrote:On March 24 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote:
Is night like no-post time or something?
This lynch was deplorable, and it's absolutely horrendous to wake up to. I figured there would be two wagons that we could analyze but instead someone just got lynched with TWO votes... Anyway, I'm not going to waste time getting mad over this. Posting stuff after resolution, hopefully it can wake some of you guys up. Its generally ill advised to post till late in the night, so you can't give the mafia a new target. But if you do it at the last second they likely won't have time to change it and you can safely make whatever case you wish. This way you also make it impossible to analyze why mafia hit the person they did. Good job there... Analyze what? It leads to WIFOM. You make a case against a townie and then they shoot you,that townie is now instant suspect number one. I'm just giving you the explinations I was given when I asked last time why no one was talking at night.
Things to notice:
- Raven does not give out his reads at the end of N1. Seems like he would already know he is not going to get night killed.
- He is trying to stall the discussion. There is no reason why we should not scumhunt on night phases. I never said everyone should scream who is scum before the last hour, there are other things you can do. Like find out who is scum by you know, interacting with people..
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Other than that, he has done very litte. The only person other than me he has called out (and tbh even talked about so that he reaches some kinda conclusion) is Frorgon. Who flipped green already. He has no real opinions on anyone other than me, and i have already proven them wrong.
##Vote: TheRavensName
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Really Rainbows you don't think we can learn anything from Fishgle's flip?
Fishgle was basically one of the lurkers, if mafia wanted to I'm sure there was enough doubt to push through a lynch on him in Day 2. Why didn't they pick someone that's been actively scum hunting by throwing a cat among the pigeons and creating a bit of doubt in the town.
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Reading through the 'Possible Roles' on the front page am I right in thinking that none of the possibilities are one-shot roles, because they all say, blah blah blah "Once per night", not once / once per night.
Is this intentional? Can someone please clarify for a newbie, thanks.
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On March 25 2013 22:49 Rainbows wrote:
@Ray
You've been really aggro with your reads. I want your opinion of me this game. Talk with me. The fishgle flip doesn't make either of us look particularly good. A wifom bomb by the mafia perhaps on myself, but I have no idea where it puts you.
What do you think of me, my child? Or, at least, my stance on raven / NW / virtu?
The hit on Fishgle means that either you are mafia or it's WIFOM or mafia is trying to make virtu look better or some combination of those. It's impossible to know at this point so i'd rather not get too much into that.
I think your case on virtu was something to look into after you summed it up. I definitely didn't see virtu in that light before.
Your case on NW now also makes sense. That's a pretty wishy-washy answer from him. I still want to know what has changed now that you find NW more suspicious than virtu? After all all this information was on the table @ the end of D1 and your vote was on virtu then. What has changed?
I don't really know your stance on Raven because i think you have not clearly told it. I just re-read your filter and couldn't find any mention of Raven that says what do you actually think of him besides the comment where you partially agree with me on him. So could you clarify the question?
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that I'm leaning town for raynpelikoneet and Rainbows. If either (or both) of them are playing a real deep game and I'm just not seeing it then so be it. People that try to drive alot of discussion, read town to me.
So while it's possible that Fishgle was chosen to make ray/rain look bad, my guess is the mafia just wanted a sure kill since he was pretty unlikely to be healed, plus he might also be likely to be targetted by a cop which would be a bonus. Maybe they were hoping for some collatoral damage on ray/rain but I doubt that's what drove the decision.
However, I'm not so sure that they'd go ahead and kill someone that was probably gonna make a juicy lynch target for the next day unless they were figuring there were already some townies likely to be lynch targets the next day. Raven and Virtu were both pretty big suspects throughout the day yesterday and Krafla made himself look pretty bad @ the end of the day. So I'd find it hard to believe that there's more than 1 scum out of those 3.
So that leaves nobodywonder who's pretty much disappeared. I haven't been crazy about any his posts so far. Rainbows points some of it out above. Plus he accused me of sheepvoting for Raven yesterday which I clearly wasn't doing.
##Vote: NobodyWonder
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United States848 Posts
^ woo~ excitement. yee about to get lynched. maybe i can find scum now hopefully.
about the non-vote, i derped hard. I would have voted virtu, but I was out and I forgot...
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United States848 Posts
well i got a feeling
##Vote: TheRavensName
i got a feeling that today's gonna be a good lynch
On March 24 2013 04:09 TheRavensName wrote:
##unvote Raynpelikoneet
##vote: Frorgon
I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue.
Raven killed Frogron. bolded words. strange. "I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel I should." what does this even mean? as a town mentality, it simply doesn't make any sense, why imply that virtu is town, and then mention no way to defend or should defend V. garbage filler post obvi. no need to mention virtu, and the explanation on frorgon is rather weak. lol he's suspicious, bad cases. nah, frorgon's cases weren't that bad, but at least he was explaining himself and I felt he was townie-ish.
btw @Raven lehhsgo lynch geript and his nutter butter some other time aite ^^
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TRN seems like an iffy lynch for today. I think there is scum between virtu and NW if not both. I think the cases on raven are biased... Saying he is scum because he lynched frogon is stupid, and especially coming from NW considering he could have prevented the lynch.
Guy lets frogon get lynched.
Guy blames other guy for lynching frorgon.
Seems, you know, legit.
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@ Rainbows:
On March 26 2013 04:07 Rainbows wrote:
TRN seems like an iffy lynch for today. I think there is scum between virtu and NW if not both. I think the cases on raven are biased... Saying he is scum because he lynched frogon is stupid, and especially coming from NW considering he could have prevented the lynch.
Guy lets frogon get lynched.
Guy blames other guy for lynching frorgon.
Seems, you know, legit.
What's biased about my case on Raven?
@ nobodywonder:
What do you think about the case on virtu? What do you think about JarJar's analysis on the night hit and his vote on you? Where do you think he is wrong and why?
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On March 25 2013 22:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:I still find TheRavensName the most suspicious person. Here is why: First, this post of his, which i based my case on him on D1: Show nested quote +On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:I gotta agree that jarjars post and hostility might be a little suspicious... however I know I did something similar in the last nmm and ended up doing some pretty decent work so I see no reason to punish it till after other people show up. Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling. - Raven "agrees with me" that JarJar is hostile. I have never implied i think JarJar is being hostile. Raven is basically saying i think JarJar is hostile which is a pure lie. Because i don't think so. - Raven is saying "JarJar might be suspicious but might not be". What's the point of saying so? Someone is suspicious or not. Mafia tends to do that because they would already know they are accusing a townie and it's easier to retract from your accusation if you give yourself an out in the first place.- "Day 1 is a scary and uncertain period for those unsure how to get the ball rolling". Spreading fear. There is no point saying this kinda stuff if you are town. We need discussion and you are not promoting it here at all. You are doing the opposite. This is not townielike at all. Then he tries to make me look bad. Look at this exchange: Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TheRavensName:
Why are you ignoring the fact that i called Frorgon out right after he made his post about you and JarJar? You should really read the whole thread and not only the parts that fit into your cases / suspicions. Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 23 2013 07:52 TheRavensName wrote:On March 23 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 23 2013 07:35 TheRavensName wrote:On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2013 23:03 Frorgon wrote:
What's wrong Raven? You guys trying to cover each other's ass? If they are covering each other, why would JarJar point out Raven's suspicious actions? Is this what your refering to each other? This is hardly calling him out. Your disagreeing with his post and then just walking away from it, instead of asking him why does he think we are covering each other when Jarjar has called me suspicious. Isn't that exactly what i am asking there? But there is no follow up by you for the purpose of trying to get an answer out of him would be my point. But that's not true at all. I can't make Frorgon post when i want him to. It was a simple question i assumed he would answer the next time he posts. Which he did. I didn't buy his answer as i explained a couple of posts ago. And i think he is scummy. I'm not giving anyone a free pass but it definitely does not help i confront Frorgon or anyone about the same things they have not been able to answer to yet. That kinda stuff will only shit up the thread and does not help at all. After this he just drops the issue without even saying if he thinks i'm wrong or if he agrees with me. The accusation in the first place is a lie as i have pointed out very clearly in the quotes. This masterpiece is from N1: Show nested quote +On March 25 2013 01:01 TheRavensName wrote:On March 25 2013 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 25 2013 00:33 TheRavensName wrote:On March 24 2013 23:37 Rainbows wrote:
Is night like no-post time or something?
This lynch was deplorable, and it's absolutely horrendous to wake up to. I figured there would be two wagons that we could analyze but instead someone just got lynched with TWO votes... Anyway, I'm not going to waste time getting mad over this. Posting stuff after resolution, hopefully it can wake some of you guys up. Its generally ill advised to post till late in the night, so you can't give the mafia a new target. But if you do it at the last second they likely won't have time to change it and you can safely make whatever case you wish. This way you also make it impossible to analyze why mafia hit the person they did. Good job there... Analyze what? It leads to WIFOM. You make a case against a townie and then they shoot you,that townie is now instant suspect number one. I'm just giving you the explinations I was given when I asked last time why no one was talking at night. Things to notice: - Raven does not give out his reads at the end of N1. Seems like he would already know he is not going to get night killed. - He is trying to stall the discussion. There is no reason why we should not scumhunt on night phases. I never said everyone should scream who is scum before the last hour, there are other things you can do. Like find out who is scum by you know, interacting with people.. --- Other than that, he has done very litte. The only person other than me he has called out (and tbh even talked about so that he reaches some kinda conclusion) is Frorgon. Who flipped green already. He has no real opinions on anyone other than me, and i have already proven them wrong.##Vote: TheRavensName
I think my point was valid. Look at it already, people are already taking WIFOM before we are even off the page of he flip. Besides that, I wasn't here between the action cut of and the end of the day post. And as to me not getting shot night one, that would have been a hillarius waste of a kill. You and JarJar have been going after me sense the start of day one, that is 2 out of the seven votes right there, instant majority lynch if they sneak in assuming your both not mafia yourselve (I'm asuming 2 or 3 mafia, either way it would be unpreventable.). As to reads, I am tending to believe that one of either Krafia or NW are scum.. simply because they seemed to just avoid the issue, NW looks especially bad sense Krafia could have easily just gotten himself killed if a few of us would have been around to switch out votes, though I didn't put mine onto him for the reason of it seemed like an incredibly dumb move against my scum read
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On March 26 2013 02:31 nobodywonder wrote:well i got a feeling ##Vote: TheRavensNamei got a feeling that today's gonna be a good lynch Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 04:09 TheRavensName wrote:
##unvote Raynpelikoneet
##vote: Frorgon
I can see that it is unlikely I will get a lynch off of Ray, and I'm starting to view him more like an aggressive townie like rainbows the more this goes on. I'm siwtching my vote to Frorgon, basically because hes lurking pretty had and acting suspicious and non contributing when he actually is here (Via pushing connection cases off of nothing.) Truth be told, your reminding me of arctic, someone who would probably get away if he lurked a little more and only makes himself look bad whenever he posts. I haven't posted against V simply because I don't think hes scum. I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel like I should, but I don't feel like I should go after him if I don't feel hes an issue. Raven killed Frogron. bolded words. strange. "I don't see a way to defend him, nor do I feel I should." what does this even mean? as a town mentality, it simply doesn't make any sense, why imply that virtu is town, and then mention no way to defend or should defend V. garbage filler post obvi. no need to mention virtu, and the explanation on frorgon is rather weak. lol he's suspicious, bad cases. nah, frorgon's cases weren't that bad, but at least he was explaining himself and I felt he was townie-ish. btw @Raven lehhsgo lynch geript and his nutter butter some other time aite ^^
"Evil Prevails when good men fail to act." You failed to act, his blood is as much on your hands as it is mine. Hell you should have been replaced after that for not even putting in a vote.
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On March 23 2013 06:08 nobodywonder wrote:
I think of things, what do you think on these things too?
Well case on virtu is valid, virtu if town has terrible play, honestly I kind of want to curse virtu's play. hasn't done stuff besides defending and saying crazy stuff @Virtu are you town? haha at this pt, at least do a good job of pretending to be town.
idk about the post about Jar Jar. seems somewhat like a soft defense of Raven, but honestly I can't read too much into it right now. need some more input from frogron, raven and jarjar
This is really all NW has contributed. Outside of that he has Fosed Jarjar, tried to get me to vote onto jarjar, and has asked question about cases and stuff he has never commented on. But the part that urks me is he pushing the jarjar and me thing when at this point in time jarjar has denied it with great anger quite a few times. Makes me wonder if theres some WIFOM right there, if maybe jarjar is red and its a soft little hinted bus? But still.. I really dislike your play all in all NW, at least bad town play does something.
##Vote NobodyWonder]
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On March 26 2013 04:52 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2013 06:08 nobodywonder wrote:
I think of things, what do you think on these things too?
Well case on virtu is valid, virtu if town has terrible play, honestly I kind of want to curse virtu's play. hasn't done stuff besides defending and saying crazy stuff @Virtu are you town? haha at this pt, at least do a good job of pretending to be town.
idk about the post about Jar Jar. seems somewhat like a soft defense of Raven, but honestly I can't read too much into it right now. need some more input from frogron, raven and jarjar
This is really all NW has contributed. Outside of that he has Fosed Jarjar, tried to get me to vote onto jarjar, and has asked question about cases and stuff he has never commented on. But the part that urks me is he pushing the jarjar and me thing when at this point in time jarjar has denied it with great anger quite a few times. Makes me wonder if theres some WIFOM right there, if maybe jarjar is red and its a soft little hinted bus? But still.. I really dislike your play all in all NW, at least bad town play does something. ##Vote NobodyWonder]
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