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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 20 2013 04:42 GMT
#1401
VE are you scum ? I feel like you havnt pressured me at all and normally your all over me. Whats the deal with this game me just being a "back burner scum suspect"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 20 2013 04:42 GMT
#1402
On March 20 2013 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's funny - my read of you caused you to IMMEDIATELY think I was scum DP. It seems to me that you might want to know if you think Sci is scum too :OOOOOOOO


That is bullshit and you know it. The case on you had nothing to do with you calling me scum. It had to do with your complete misrepresentations of the facts in your case. I am not going to OMGUS everyone who calls me scum and I don't consider my case on you OMGUS period.

For a smart guy you are being incredibly stupid.

Care to finally tell me how on earth you had the gall to say townies never pressure or policy vote? or why the case against me was full of misrepresentations which countless others saw right through?


You're really making a big deal out of that statement Darth. How about this. I'll meet you halfway and say that BAD townies pressure/policy vote.

And the case against you is super stronk. You scum and I can't wait for town to see it. ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 04:44 GMT
#1403
You know. If WoS is town. I am certain one or both of mocsta/coag is scum. Seems like they are scrambling over themselves to give weak as fuck reasons to say WoS is townie DESPITE the kita case being absurdly strong.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 20 2013 04:44 GMT
#1404
Like if anyone in this fucking game can dig into me and get a scumslip or clear read on my alignment its VE. Every game I have ever been scum in with him I have pretty much completely given up and admited defeat by day 2 because of him single handedly catching me.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 20 2013 04:45 GMT
#1405
On March 20 2013 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's funny - my read of you caused you to IMMEDIATELY think I was scum DP. It seems to me that you might want to know if you think Sci is scum too :OOOOOOOO


That is bullshit and you know it. The case on you had nothing to do with you calling me scum. It had to do with your complete misrepresentations of the facts in your case. I am not going to OMGUS everyone who calls me scum and I don't consider my case on you OMGUS period.

For a smart guy you are being incredibly stupid.

Care to finally tell me how on earth you had the gall to say townies never pressure or policy vote? or why the case against me was full of misrepresentations which countless others saw right through?

Why would a vote 2 hours into the game be deemed acceptable pressure? Make yourself useful now that you're here.
Thoughts on Zarepath? You're both an agreement that I should be lynched right now but let's pretend you're wrong for a minute. Where does that put him on your list, especially since you were ready to lynch him D1 before changing to VE.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 04:46 GMT
#1406
On March 20 2013 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's funny - my read of you caused you to IMMEDIATELY think I was scum DP. It seems to me that you might want to know if you think Sci is scum too :OOOOOOOO


That is bullshit and you know it. The case on you had nothing to do with you calling me scum. It had to do with your complete misrepresentations of the facts in your case. I am not going to OMGUS everyone who calls me scum and I don't consider my case on you OMGUS period.

For a smart guy you are being incredibly stupid.

Care to finally tell me how on earth you had the gall to say townies never pressure or policy vote? or why the case against me was full of misrepresentations which countless others saw right through?


You're really making a big deal out of that statement Darth. How about this. I'll meet you halfway and say that BAD townies pressure/policy vote.

And the case against you is super stronk. You scum and I can't wait for town to see it. ^^


If the case against me is super strong why have you not pushed it since you disappeared after saying you were going to read the thread? The case on me is Awful. Most of the town knows it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 20 2013 04:46 GMT
#1407
On March 20 2013 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
You know. If WoS is town. I am certain one or both of mocsta/coag is scum. Seems like they are scrambling over themselves to give weak as fuck reasons to say WoS is townie DESPITE the kita case being absurdly strong.

Lol or I've played 3 games with Mocsta and he knows my meta.
And Coag isn't a complete idiot.

(I do see your point, however I disagree. And now that you've brought it up it'll be interesting to see what the rest of the scum on my bandwagon do if it starts to falter.)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
cosmicomics
Profile Joined March 2013
81 Posts
March 20 2013 04:47 GMT
#1408
WaveofShadow, could you tone down on the swearing please? It can turn people off (including townies), which will in turn fuel this bandwagon against you, and the worst kind of wagon is one where it is town pushed.

I think it would be most beneficial to everyone if you could consolidate your posting and present your defense against kita's main case. Or build a strong case of your own on somebody. Because right now it is getting more difficult to read you and you are giving scum / good intentioned townies more fuel.

I'll be looking over your meta, the case and the posts in interest in the meantime.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 20 2013 04:47 GMT
#1409
On March 20 2013 13:44 Coagulation wrote:
Like if anyone in this fucking game can dig into me and get a scumslip or clear read on my alignment its VE. Every game I have ever been scum in with him I have pretty much completely given up and admited defeat by day 2 because of him single handedly catching me.


Well that's not entirely true. I didn't think you were scum in Space Station. Jackal sure, but I just saw regular ol' BS Coag in Space Station.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 04:48 GMT
#1410
On March 20 2013 13:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's funny - my read of you caused you to IMMEDIATELY think I was scum DP. It seems to me that you might want to know if you think Sci is scum too :OOOOOOOO


That is bullshit and you know it. The case on you had nothing to do with you calling me scum. It had to do with your complete misrepresentations of the facts in your case. I am not going to OMGUS everyone who calls me scum and I don't consider my case on you OMGUS period.

For a smart guy you are being incredibly stupid.

Care to finally tell me how on earth you had the gall to say townies never pressure or policy vote? or why the case against me was full of misrepresentations which countless others saw right through?

Why would a vote 2 hours into the game be deemed acceptable pressure? Make yourself useful now that you're here.
Thoughts on Zarepath? You're both an agreement that I should be lynched right now but let's pretend you're wrong for a minute. Where does that put him on your list, especially since you were ready to lynch him D1 before changing to VE.


Zarepath is in a scummy little basket along with along with TPS, Layabout and Cosmic.

The problem with all these people is that A.) I have never played with them before so it is hard to tell if they are just always scummy/lynchbait or if there is something wrong. B.) I am scared of mislynching into lynchbait.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 20 2013 04:51 GMT
#1411
On March 20 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's funny - my read of you caused you to IMMEDIATELY think I was scum DP. It seems to me that you might want to know if you think Sci is scum too :OOOOOOOO


That is bullshit and you know it. The case on you had nothing to do with you calling me scum. It had to do with your complete misrepresentations of the facts in your case. I am not going to OMGUS everyone who calls me scum and I don't consider my case on you OMGUS period.

For a smart guy you are being incredibly stupid.

Care to finally tell me how on earth you had the gall to say townies never pressure or policy vote? or why the case against me was full of misrepresentations which countless others saw right through?


You're really making a big deal out of that statement Darth. How about this. I'll meet you halfway and say that BAD townies pressure/policy vote.

And the case against you is super stronk. You scum and I can't wait for town to see it. ^^


If the case against me is super strong why have you not pushed it since you disappeared after saying you were going to read the thread? The case on me is Awful. Most of the town knows it.


Sweet dude then you have nothing to worry about! *high-five*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2013 04:51 GMT
#1412
On March 20 2013 13:29 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:24 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:10 Mocsta wrote:
Sciberbia
I dont want this request below to be lost.

On March 20 2013 11:59 sciberbia wrote:
Hi all. I plan to be here for the next several hours.

I agree with the general sentiment that lynching either BH or VE is dumb today as a matter of general strategy. here is no really strong evidence that either of them is scum. I don't think they should be lynch candidates.
On March 20 2013 12:55 Mocsta wrote:
Sci..

the above is interesting.. so far the only case I noticed on VE is from DarthPunk.
Henceforth, the corollary is that the DP case on VE is rubbish (i..e not really strong)

Lets get context here: DP is a strong player.. after all DP does have the highest win ratio on the TL Database. And has had scum and town games that have all resulted in the same outcome.. victory

With that context: Do you expect more substance from a town DP? If the case is "not strong' as you suggest, what impact does this have on your DP read?


In addition: please add in the context that DP de-lurked specifically to bandwagon WoS.

What is your DP read pl0x


I think you'll find that before I bandwagoned WOS taht I posted a question to coag. and that that question was from about 10 pages back in the thread. So If you were really paying attention you would realise that I had just come back and started to read things. So in essence. NO. I did not 'delurk' to bandwagon WoS. I came back. read the thread. read kita's case which i feel to be very strong, and then voted for WoS based on that.

What are you trying to say here? that you think I am scum? if you are how about YOU in fact say it rather than try and prompt others into saying it for you.

Nice interjection DP. Curious is it not?

I had a premonition that you wanted to know Sciberbia read on you?

I thought I was doing you a favour dear.


WTF are you talking about? I don't care what people's reads on me are unless I am about to get mislynched.

Interesting choice of words.

Personally, its a favourite move of mine to throw in the word 'mislynch" when scum. Its a soft-town claim as I am sure you are aware. In fact, I used the word in hydra when under the pump

Lets be fair: Yes, town can say it.. but.. truth be told. I havent seen a town say it until they under genuine pressure of lynch.. And well, you are simply not in that position are you?. so it is fascinating that you choose to overreact and beat this drum so hard so early.



Now in case you are struggling to piece together my motives. Let me be transparent.
I am still trying to ascertain whether this game you can indeed get mislynched.

So when I am asking others for opinions on YOU.. I think its bullshit to over-react and cut in like you did. now my questions to sciberbia are tainted all because of your 'choice of actions' and impatience.

I am not trying to elicit stances for funsies. Everything has a purpose. And so far.. I got way more than I expected... WAY MORE.



As for the criteria you raised earlier.
+ Show Spoiler +

OK, you voted for WoS post-kita case, and pre-WoS limp "permission" post which you decided to call out.
Do you want a pat on the back for making the follow up?

& You can also continue to over-react over my choice of word in "de-lurk" which perhaps can be rephrased as decided to make your first post in essentially one hour.

As for your spiel about calling scum directly instead of "prompting". Trust me, when I want to call you scum. I shall... and if others want to call you scum, it wont be because *I* gave them permission to either.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 04:52 GMT
#1413
On March 20 2013 13:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
You know. If WoS is town. I am certain one or both of mocsta/coag is scum. Seems like they are scrambling over themselves to give weak as fuck reasons to say WoS is townie DESPITE the kita case being absurdly strong.

Lol or I've played 3 games with Mocsta and he knows my meta.
And Coag isn't a complete idiot.

(I do see your point, however I disagree. And now that you've brought it up it'll be interesting to see what the rest of the scum on my bandwagon do if it starts to falter.)


I don't believe 3 games to be enough to shake off kita's case almost immediately soley on meta. And coag not being dumb is not an excuse to call you town straight up for little to no reason.

Let us say that hypothetically you are town. Yes, Kita's case on you was wrong. But you must see that it is really very convincing and is a strong case in general.

Now. Ask yourself if the piss weak reasons for the town reads on you make sense in context with how good kita's case is. Doesn't that worry you?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 04:53 GMT
#1414
On March 20 2013 13:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's funny - my read of you caused you to IMMEDIATELY think I was scum DP. It seems to me that you might want to know if you think Sci is scum too :OOOOOOOO


That is bullshit and you know it. The case on you had nothing to do with you calling me scum. It had to do with your complete misrepresentations of the facts in your case. I am not going to OMGUS everyone who calls me scum and I don't consider my case on you OMGUS period.

For a smart guy you are being incredibly stupid.

Care to finally tell me how on earth you had the gall to say townies never pressure or policy vote? or why the case against me was full of misrepresentations which countless others saw right through?


You're really making a big deal out of that statement Darth. How about this. I'll meet you halfway and say that BAD townies pressure/policy vote.

And the case against you is super stronk. You scum and I can't wait for town to see it. ^^


If the case against me is super strong why have you not pushed it since you disappeared after saying you were going to read the thread? The case on me is Awful. Most of the town knows it.


Sweet dude then you have nothing to worry about! *high-five*


No. I have to worry about you being scum or not.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 20 2013 04:56 GMT
#1415
DP: Zarepath is NOT always lynchbait, which is exactly why I am ever more certain he is scum. I can't be sure about the others. And the town reads aren't weak at all. Notice how the other players that I've played with before ALSO haven't voted for me? VE/BH/Geript/Vivax/etc?
As to whether or not I'm worried, you can be the judge of that.
Cosmic to answer your questions:
No, I'll speak however I want.
I posted a sort-of-defense to kita right after he first accused me and we had a little back-and-forth. If need be later on or tomorrow I'll go more in depth but I don't see the need right now. As far as giving people more fuel, where are those good intentioned townies to push their oh-so-towny cases against me?

They voted and fucked off with all the scum that's where.


twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 04:58 GMT
#1416
On March 20 2013 13:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 13:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:24 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2013 13:10 Mocsta wrote:
Sciberbia
I dont want this request below to be lost.

On March 20 2013 11:59 sciberbia wrote:
Hi all. I plan to be here for the next several hours.

I agree with the general sentiment that lynching either BH or VE is dumb today as a matter of general strategy. here is no really strong evidence that either of them is scum. I don't think they should be lynch candidates.
On March 20 2013 12:55 Mocsta wrote:
Sci..

the above is interesting.. so far the only case I noticed on VE is from DarthPunk.
Henceforth, the corollary is that the DP case on VE is rubbish (i..e not really strong)

Lets get context here: DP is a strong player.. after all DP does have the highest win ratio on the TL Database. And has had scum and town games that have all resulted in the same outcome.. victory

With that context: Do you expect more substance from a town DP? If the case is "not strong' as you suggest, what impact does this have on your DP read?


In addition: please add in the context that DP de-lurked specifically to bandwagon WoS.

What is your DP read pl0x


I think you'll find that before I bandwagoned WOS taht I posted a question to coag. and that that question was from about 10 pages back in the thread. So If you were really paying attention you would realise that I had just come back and started to read things. So in essence. NO. I did not 'delurk' to bandwagon WoS. I came back. read the thread. read kita's case which i feel to be very strong, and then voted for WoS based on that.

What are you trying to say here? that you think I am scum? if you are how about YOU in fact say it rather than try and prompt others into saying it for you.

Nice interjection DP. Curious is it not?

I had a premonition that you wanted to know Sciberbia read on you?

I thought I was doing you a favour dear.


WTF are you talking about? I don't care what people's reads on me are unless I am about to get mislynched.

Interesting choice of words.

Personally, its a favourite move of mine to throw in the word 'mislynch" when scum. Its a soft-town claim as I am sure you are aware. In fact, I used the word in hydra when under the pump

Lets be fair: Yes, town can say it.. but.. truth be told. I havent seen a town say it until they under genuine pressure of lynch.. And well, you are simply not in that position are you?. so it is fascinating that you choose to overreact and beat this drum so hard so early.



Now in case you are struggling to piece together my motives. Let me be transparent.
I am still trying to ascertain whether this game you can indeed get mislynched.

So when I am asking others for opinions on YOU.. I think its bullshit to over-react and cut in like you did. now my questions to sciberbia are tainted all because of your 'choice of actions' and impatience.

I am not trying to elicit stances for funsies. Everything has a purpose. And so far.. I got way more than I expected... WAY MORE.



As for the criteria you raised earlier.
+ Show Spoiler +

OK, you voted for WoS post-kita case, and pre-WoS limp "permission" post which you decided to call out.
Do you want a pat on the back for making the follow up?

& You can also continue to over-react over my choice of word in "de-lurk" which perhaps can be rephrased as decided to make your first post in essentially one hour.

As for your spiel about calling scum directly instead of "prompting". Trust me, when I want to call you scum. I shall... and if others want to call you scum, it wont be because *I* gave them permission to either.


Read any of my last 5 town games. Z-Boson once brought up that it was part of my meta that I never used the word mislynch as a townie and that I solely did so as scum. Since then I have started to use the word as both alignments.

Now I wasn't reacting because I was the focus of whatever you were trying to do with sciberbia. I was reacting because you were phrasing what seemed to be a question in a way that seemes to lead others to draw the conclusion that you wished. That, to me, does not seem like a genuine attempt to gather information and then draw a conclusion. That to me seems like an attempt to find information that reaches the conclusion you wish it to reach. and THAT is scummy as fuck.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2013 05:00 GMT
#1417
On March 20 2013 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Zarepath is in a scummy little basket along with along with TPS, Layabout and Cosmic.

The problem with all these people is that A.) I have never played with them before so it is hard to tell if they are just always scummy/lynchbait or if there is something wrong. B.) I am scared of mislynching into lynchbait.

Im personally worried about layabout.

I didnt find him townie in Mafia LX, but quite a few vets did.

I havnt compared filters, but I am getting a gut feeling difference betwen the two games.

Hes posts are still infrequent, but seems more I guess.. belligerent this game. Hes a priority fitler read for me at the moment.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 20 2013 05:01 GMT
#1418
On March 18 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
VOTE COUNT! Day 2

ThePeashooter (0): Wade Fell, TranceStorm

goodkarma (1): Kenpachi

Wade Fell (0): Vivax, geript, VisceraEyes

Mr. Wiggles (12): zarepath, goodkarma, VisceraEyes, WaveofShadow

zarepath (6): Vivax

WaveofShadow (0):: glurio, kitaman27, ThePeashooter, DarthPunk, zarepath, Mocsta , Mr. Wiggles

VisceraEyes (0): cosmicomics, DoYouHas

Voting is compulsory
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2013 05:02 GMT
#1419
On March 20 2013 13:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
DP: Zarepath is NOT always lynchbait, which is exactly why I am ever more certain he is scum. I can't be sure about the others. And the town reads aren't weak at all. Notice how the other players that I've played with before ALSO haven't voted for me? VE/BH/Geript/Vivax/etc?
As to whether or not I'm worried, you can be the judge of that.

Cosmic to answer your questions:
No, I'll speak however I want.
I posted a sort-of-defense to kita right after he first accused me and we had a little back-and-forth. If need be later on or tomorrow I'll go more in depth but I don't see the need right now. As far as giving people more fuel, where are those good intentioned townies to push their oh-so-towny cases against me?

They voted and fucked off with all the scum that's where.




WTF kind of response is this?!?!? I can be the judge of whether you are worried or not? why the deliberate ambiguity? That rubs me the wrong way.

You responded in a non townie way to that question. Townies would be suspicious as anything about town reads ripped from thin air. I can assure you.

I am pretty confident this lynch is the right one.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
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March 20 2013 05:02 GMT
#1420
Uh...speaking of Scib I'm pretty sure he said he was going to be around for a few hours and asked for my read on him. Where you at bro?
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