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On March 19 2013 16:07 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 16:05 DoYouHas wrote:
Gotta say, that instantly makes me like a zarepath lynch much less. Im not following? Its all WIFOM right? If you want more WIFOM, Kei just caught VE in hydra....
Yes, my thinking could be reduced to WIFOM but here it is anyways.
Scum priorities for NKs tend to fall along what threatens them the most balanced with a risk/reward assessment.
If zare is scum, then the people threatening him right now are myself, Scib, and Vivax (off the top of my head). Vivax might be slightly less of a threat, as people have repeatedly ignored some of the things he says. But both Scib and I are extremely hard lynches at the moment, being considered townie by practically all of the thread (if I have read correctly). This makes Scib and I, and to a lesser degree, Vivax, logical targets IF zarepath is scum, and IF he was feeling the pressure.
BH is another logical target if his roleclaim is true (I think it is, but can't be 100% sure).
Now consider possible Medic protections. BH has claimed blue which could likely pull a medic's attention. Scib is probably the most townie and biggest threat in general, also a good chance of protection. But that still leaves myself and Vivax as pretty safe targets.
Yes, this is WIFOM, but if I was scum this is how I would sift possible targets IF I was worried about zare getting lynched D2. Instead we get a Keirathi kill. A good kill because he is a solid town player, but by killing a replacement player who had very little time to put forth his opinions my guess is that scum is less worried about the track town is currently on, and more worried about a new voice providing a course correction.
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DYH speculating that much on night actions is typically not worthwhile. I think if you're worried about the direction town is going in you're best off rereading filters with fresh eyes and advising other to do the same rather than burrowing into WIFOM
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On March 19 2013 16:26 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 16:07 Mocsta wrote:On March 19 2013 16:05 DoYouHas wrote:
Gotta say, that instantly makes me like a zarepath lynch much less. Im not following? Its all WIFOM right? If you want more WIFOM, Kei just caught VE in hydra.... Yes, my thinking could be reduced to WIFOM but here it is anyways. Scum priorities for NKs tend to fall along what threatens them the most balanced with a risk/reward assessment. If zare is scum, then the people threatening him right now are myself, Scib, and Vivax (off the top of my head). Vivax might be slightly less of a threat, as people have repeatedly ignored some of the things he says. But both Scib and I are extremely hard lynches at the moment, being considered townie by practically all of the thread (if I have read correctly). This makes Scib and I, and to a lesser degree, Vivax, logical targets IF zarepath is scum, and IF he was feeling the pressure. BH is another logical target if his roleclaim is true (I think it is, but can't be 100% sure). Now consider possible Medic protections. BH has claimed blue which could likely pull a medic's attention. Scib is probably the most townie and biggest threat in general, also a good chance of protection. But that still leaves myself and Vivax as pretty safe targets. Yes, this is WIFOM, but if I was scum this is how I would sift possible targets IF I was worried about zare getting lynched D2. Instead we get a Keirathi kill. A good kill because he is a solid town player, but by killing a replacement player who had very little time to put forth his opinions my guess is that scum is less worried about the track town is currently on, and more worried about a new voice providing a course correction.
This is probably best post in thread. I'm going to bed, and I read everything tomorrow.
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OR. they figured he was a guranteed no protection hit....
sometimes its just the simplest solution
heres a pool of guys talking sense
who is the LEAST likely to be protected
ahh keir.. lets shoot him
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On March 19 2013 16:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
No my role saved me. I'm Vet.
Did you bread crumb that?
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On March 19 2013 16:27 Wade Fell wrote:
DYH speculating that much on night actions is typically not worthwhile. I think if you're worried about the direction town is going in you're best off rereading filters with fresh eyes and advising other to do the same rather than burrowing into WIFOM
Agreed in full
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On March 19 2013 16:29 DarthPunk wrote:Did you bread crumb that?
Now just why in the fuck would I crumb that?! LMAO
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It should be noted that when I wrote that last post I was thinking there was only 1KP in play.
I need to get to bed, good night.
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Hence why it is disconcerting VE gave it a +1 immediately
i dont give a shit how tired he was...
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It's not clear if scum have 1 or 2 kp, but we have 1 dead townie and another player who's claimed a hit. Really at this point it's academic; we're not lynching VE today anyways.
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scum VE probably wouldn't have outed me to the thread. he probably would have just shot me. outing me to the thread made me much harder to kill.
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BH.. half the thread aint here. in fairness.. there could be RB KP, or <insert> watever.
At least we know now that the fool is a town aligned role
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Yeah we should just wait until everyone has reported in before getting all speculative. For all we know there were hella KP flying around last night.
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On March 19 2013 16:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 16:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2013 16:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
No my role saved me. I'm Vet. Did you bread crumb that? Now just why in the fuck would I crumb that?! LMAO
SO when you claim to be a vet after you get shot you are 100% confirmed to all of us.
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Yeah that's not how that works. Night DP.
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Regardless. I no longer want to lynch you today because I am not going to lynch the vet claim day two. I just find it very convenient for you.
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On March 19 2013 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 16:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 19 2013 16:29 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2013 16:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
No my role saved me. I'm Vet. Did you bread crumb that? Now just why in the fuck would I crumb that?! LMAO SO when you claim to be a vet after you get shot you are 100% confirmed to all of us.
Gents,
we are at an impasse
vet is stupid to crumb
VE knows this
Obviously u have a vested interest because of the case; but it is 3am over in the US. Best I can offer is to comment on ya case tonight once i caught up on the thread.
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Indulge me.. why are guys like Coagulation being allowed to fly under the radar?
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Why would you claim Vet though as Town? Even if the Scum clearly know they shot you, they have no idea how the hit failed. Roleclaiming serves no purpose here.
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On March 19 2013 17:09 Ace wrote:
Why would you claim Vet though as Town? Even if the Scum clearly know they shot you, they have no idea how the hit failed. Roleclaiming serves no purpose here.
that's what I was trying to get at before he claimed when i posted here
On March 19 2013 16:24 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 16:23 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2013 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I took a hit.
I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town. What dos that mean? you are a vet and got hit or that you were medic protected for some reason? Whether VE was mediced or whether he was a Veteran is not something we need to know.
but the point is moot now that he's claimed. Even though it doesnt' make a huge amount of sense it doesn't mean we shoudl be lynching VE today
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