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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 19 2013 07:12 GMT
#1061
How does Keirathi's death paint zarepath as innocent?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 19 2013 07:12 GMT
#1062
Regarding my masonry with Zarepath: there's no longer any risk of giving up my role to scum by masoning with them. Zarepath is a player on whom I have a townread but people want to lynch, and by masoning with him I'll be able to learn more about him.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 07:14 GMT
#1063
On March 19 2013 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta....

THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile.
Started playing in the new year 2013
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 19 2013 07:15 GMT
#1064
After a quick read-through of his (TPS) filter I don't find anything nearly as damning as you seem to find about him, BH.
I'd certainly like to see some more solid reads from him during the day though, as there won't be any excusing a second day of the bare minimum of contribution.

I'm interested to hear his thoughts on zare and whether he's changed his mind since reading him as scummy earlier in the day (without committing...)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 19 2013 07:16 GMT
#1065
On March 19 2013 16:12 Ace wrote:
How does Keirathi's death paint zarepath as innocent?

I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 19 2013 07:16 GMT
#1066
On March 19 2013 16:14 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta....

THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile.
Started playing in the new year 2013

More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 07:19 GMT
#1067
On March 19 2013 16:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:14 Mocsta wrote:
On March 19 2013 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta....

THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile.
Started playing in the new year 2013

More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky.

I think you are takign the wrong approach.

Dr.H i believe on the podcast is true advocate of RNG (with no host post-hoc balance).. hence. the scum team is just as likely being 5 vets and 5 newbies. . its not out of the question for 5 newbies to be his read.

I think the right approach is to ask his insight to why those people are scummy.. he doesnt need a case to explain why.. just dot point aspects of play that dont sit right.

Ascertain if he is being genuine with his reads, or taking the easy road.

(im still on page 20 lol so i cant do this pressure.. i can only comment on things happening in the thread live)
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
March 19 2013 07:20 GMT
#1068
On March 19 2013 16:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:14 Mocsta wrote:
On March 19 2013 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta....

THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile.
Started playing in the new year 2013

More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky.


I'd be happy to explain any of those reads. I just threw them out there so people would have something to look through if I got shot. Right now I am going to look into TPS though as requested by BH.

Also, I am definitely pretty new (I think this is my 4th non-newbie game) and yea I don't even know goodkarma or Mocsta. Anyway, I'm off to catch up on the BH situation and read his post on TPS.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 07:20 GMT
#1069
On March 19 2013 16:16 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:12 Ace wrote:
How does Keirathi's death paint zarepath as innocent?

I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip.

It was pretty fuckn clear Keir was town without a flip...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 19 2013 07:20 GMT
#1070
I took a hit.

I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 19 2013 07:21 GMT
#1071
OK so the keirathi kill means that scum was loving the status quo and didn't like keirathi shaking things up with his entrance.
Another thing to think about is that keirathi is known for his meta reads so potentially there are one or more scum that keir would have been familiar with.

I find it odd that BH would just be left alive as a mason when he could have been sniped easily. But scum could have been dodging medic protection.

I would like everyone to look through my viscera eyes case. I think we should lynch him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 19 2013 07:21 GMT
#1072
On March 19 2013 16:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:16 sciberbia wrote:
On March 19 2013 16:12 Ace wrote:
How does Keirathi's death paint zarepath as innocent?

I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip.

It was pretty fuckn clear Keir was town without a flip...

I agree with this.
Scib, thoughts on your scumlist now that you're not dead?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 19 2013 07:22 GMT
#1073
On March 19 2013 16:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
After a quick read-through of his (TPS) filter I don't find anything nearly as damning as you seem to find about him, BH.
I'd certainly like to see some more solid reads from him during the day though, as there won't be any excusing a second day of the bare minimum of contribution.

I'm interested to hear his thoughts on zare and whether he's changed his mind since reading him as scummy earlier in the day (without committing...)


I find it unlikely, but not utterly implausible TPS will be able to convince me his town. That being said, I eagerly await his defense that I might better convince you of his scumminess as my spears of pure logic shred his veil of deceit and lies.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 07:22 GMT
#1074
On March 19 2013 16:16 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:12 Ace wrote:
How does Keirathi's death paint zarepath as innocent?

I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip.

Moreso. whats peculiar here is that

WoS and my reads on zarepath are influenced by knowning him.

Guys like you/Kei have never played with zarepath before..

What kei picked up was NOT rocket science.. im curious how he seems to be the ?first? guy pushing those view points is odd...

When i get home and do my thread read: im going to pay very careful attention to who pushed zarepath
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 19 2013 07:23 GMT
#1075
On March 19 2013 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I took a hit.

I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town.


What dos that mean? you are a vet and got hit or that you were medic protected for some reason?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 19 2013 07:23 GMT
#1076
On March 19 2013 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I took a hit.

I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town.

Maybe scum medic saved u?
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 19 2013 07:23 GMT
#1077
On March 19 2013 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
OK so the keirathi kill means that scum was loving the status quo and didn't like keirathi shaking things up with his entrance.
Another thing to think about is that keirathi is known for his meta reads so potentially there are one or more scum that keir would have been familiar with.

I find it odd that BH would just be left alive as a mason when he could have been sniped easily. But scum could have been dodging medic protection.

I would like everyone to look through my viscera eyes case. I think we should lynch him.


Unless someone else claims they took a hit, I think we can consider VE "highly likely town" based on night actions. In a normal game like this scum typically has 2 KP, at least at first, and we have exactly 2 KP accounted for, and they make sense as scum kills. Kei was capable town, and VE is a capable scumhunter. Unless I hear something else about what happened overnight, the simplest answer is probably true: scum shot Kei and VE, and a canny medic protected one of our best Vets.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 19 2013 07:24 GMT
#1078
No my role saved me. I'm Vet.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
March 19 2013 07:24 GMT
#1079
On March 19 2013 16:23 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I took a hit.

I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town.


What dos that mean? you are a vet and got hit or that you were medic protected for some reason?



Whether VE was mediced or whether he was a Veteran is not something we need to know.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 19 2013 07:25 GMT
#1080
Anyway it's late as all fuck right now and I have to go to bed. I fully plan on dedicating today to closing the book on zare one way or another as the town seems to be relatively polarized regarding whether they think he's town or scum. I expect some more posting from him so we'll be able to look into it. I also have to delve into some more filters and re-read a little because I feel like I have too many town-reads and not enough scum.

Night all.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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