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From last night's defense of me I saw him as town because he was the only one not directly assuming just because everyone else was that my 'flailing around like an idiot,' as he put it, wasn't due to scumslipping.
I agree he REALLY could be contributing more but there are guiltier parties who have contributed less.
GK I honestly don't know because I think my read on him really depends on what's up with BH. Just like half the thread GK has very little in terms of posting/contribution but I could see town. Seems really unlikely that the logs are fabricated between two scum partners (BH/GK) despite my conspiracy theory post about timestamps that everyone mostly ignored anyway.
My top non-VE lynch right now is Wiggles and will remain as such; I will vote with the town in their infinite wisdom and as the evidence for VE's innocence has been piling up, I'm wondering if I should switch.
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On March 21 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Mocsta, shut up about glurio, he's useless and yes he's scummy we can lynch him after we figure out the rest of this clusterfuck we call a game.
No...
Look i appreciate you coming here and trying to step up. We need this nearing the vote.
But that action is pretty fuckn scummy. Considering some held a scum read on glurio throughout the thread.. im surprised this action has gone through "unnoticed".
So im not goign to shut up about it.
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My suggestion: if you want to achieve consolidation
I would provide a summary list of points for lynchign VE, and points for lynching Wiggles.
cos right now, everything is interspersed through 10-20 pages off bullshit/spamming
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I would also like to add another thing: You're likely town just for being here and discussing stuff when the lynch target is clear and set. This is an important timing. Scum doesn't feel the need to act in the thread at all, currently, but this is generally an important time for every player since it's close to deadline. Scum doesn't care though.
Feel free to give each other a nice townread.
And think about the implications this has for GK, trancestorm, Wade Fell, zarepath, cosmicomics.
Especially WF and zarepath, who are masoned together and have been very verbose throughout the game appear additionally scummy to me for the lack of involvement at this time.
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kitaman27
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On March 21 2013 11:08 Mocsta wrote:
WoS.. im still catching up on the thread, so am unfamiliar with why wiggles could be scum..
can you please provide some links to posts, i will prioritise reading them now. (im not even sure who has built cases on him, other than I think you?)
His filter is quite small. It shouldn't take much time to read through the entire thing.
I'm swapping my vote to him since he doesn't seem to care at all about what happens tonight.
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On March 21 2013 11:12 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
And scib did you not read the thread?
You REALLY think my claim is fake? K.
Mocsta, shut up about glurio, he's useless and yes he's scummy we can lynch him after we figure out the rest of this clusterfuck we call a game.
Are we seriously talking about lynching Coag now too? Good lord. I have read every page of the thread at least once, and I do in fact have major doubts about your claim, as I just said. Maybe I'm wrong though. We'll see D3 I guess.
What about my claim do you doubt? Actually nvm for now we have to get the votes rolling on the proper targets. Will you tell me after the flip? I'll try to ease your doubts but ultimately I guess you're right D3 will tell you.
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On March 21 2013 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
From last night's defense of me I saw him as town because he was the only one not directly assuming just because everyone else was that my 'flailing around like an idiot,' as he put it, wasn't due to scumslipping.
Advice for all games... many townies fall into the trap of having a strong town read, on someone who sees them as town (when they are under threat)
Please consider: scum *know* your alignment; town *think* they know your alignment.
Its up to you to make the judgement on whether the town read is genuine; or falsified.
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On March 21 2013 11:17 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
From last night's defense of me I saw him as town because he was the only one not directly assuming just because everyone else was that my 'flailing around like an idiot,' as he put it, wasn't due to scumslipping. Advice for all games... many townies fall into the trap of having a strong town read, on someone who sees them as town (when they are under threat) Please consider: scum *know* your alignment; town *think* they know your alignment. Its up to you to make the judgement on whether the town read is genuine; or falsified.
I don't see it being a smart move on scum's part to defend me when I looked as scummy as I did. If I had flipped blue sure he could've been all like 'SEE I TOLD YOU GUYS,' but then if you're the only person defending me when the rest of the thread, town and scum agrees to vote me, that doesn't look very good for the reasons you described, does it?
As for VE/Wiggles cases I'll see what I can find and consolidate but not only is that going to be difficult for me to sift through since the VE reads aren't mine and I don't remember who else made Wiggles cases, but also because I don't know myself which of the two I'll be voting yet.
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OK Goodkarma is being useless this game. I know goodkarma and he is NEVER useless as town.
##Vote: Goodkarma
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On March 21 2013 11:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 11:17 Mocsta wrote:On March 21 2013 11:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
From last night's defense of me I saw him as town because he was the only one not directly assuming just because everyone else was that my 'flailing around like an idiot,' as he put it, wasn't due to scumslipping. Advice for all games... many townies fall into the trap of having a strong town read, on someone who sees them as town (when they are under threat) Please consider: scum *know* your alignment; town *think* they know your alignment. Its up to you to make the judgement on whether the town read is genuine; or falsified. I don't see it being a smart move on scum's part to defend me when I looked as scummy as I did. If I had flipped blue sure he could've been all like 'SEE I TOLD YOU GUYS,' but then if you're the only person defending me when the rest of the thread, town and scum agrees to vote me, that doesn't look very good for the reasons you described, does it?
I need a re-read cos i cant remember exact sequence of events.
IIRC he supported you as town, when I still thought you were town based on meta (and not going through your filter in detail).
Hence it was basically a sheep +1. Which is easy enough from either alignment.
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Everyone should consolidate onto goodkarma.
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How is good karma more useless than wiggles?
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On March 21 2013 11:32 geript wrote:
How is good karma more useless than wiggles?
he may not be. But I KNOW goodkarma. and I KNOW goodkarma is never useless as town. this is as close t a sure thing that i can see today.
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On March 21 2013 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 11:32 geript wrote:
How is good karma more useless than wiggles? he may not be. But I KNOW goodkarma. and I KNOW goodkarma is never useless as town. this is as close t a sure thing that i can see today.
In fairness, DP said in middle Day1.. one of the few reasons he wanted to keep gk around was cos he knew gk could offer solid contribution as town.
So I see this as pretty valid reasoning.
+ Though BH assumes gk is town int he logs..... there is no evidence of gk trying to discern BH alignment. nor is there eveidence of gk acting as if BH is confirmed town.. all he does is agree with BH
I do prefer this lynch over coag.
I havnt read wiggles to make an opinion.
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Goodkarma in his second newbie lynched and convinced town to lynch correctly 3 times in a row at lylo to win the game for town.
This game he has done nothing to push reads or *really* scumhunt. He has been useless. He is never useless as town.
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This analysis I could get behind. I'll reread the logs after work.
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Wait what I posted an extensive case against GK much much earlier and "He's useless D2" suddenly convinces some people to look into him?
This makes me really really sad. I'm glad however that people are noticing what's up.
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VE
I don't think VE is scum.
I think VE might be third party (either now or by tonight).
I don't know if said third party is worth our time disposing of.
Hence I don't like voting for VE.
Wiggles
I don't think Wiggles is all that likely to be scum. I've just been over his filter and there's nothing that says scum to me.
Hence I don't think Wiggles should be the lynch.
GK
I don't have any strong feelings about GK.
I think DP is town and smart so I would be willing to trust his meta-read on GK if that is the only option besides Wiggles and VE.
cosmicomics
But what do you guys think about making this a cosmicomics lynch?
I think we can all agree he is:
- reasonably likely to be scum
- lurky
- does not show any indication of ever contributing more
I would be happy to write up a case and vote cosmicomics if you guys would be receptive.
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On March 21 2013 11:43 Vivax wrote:
Wait what I posted an extensive case against GK much much earlier and "He's useless D2" suddenly convinces some people to look into him?
This makes me really really sad. I'm glad however that people are noticing what's up.
hmm I don't remember this case. Sorry lol. I think I was more interested in your zarepath and cosmicomics cases. WIll go back and look at it now.
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I am happy to lynch GK and CC.
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I'm making a case on Wiggles. It's irrefutable I can assure you.
This is the time. OUR FREEDOM IS AT HAND!!!
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