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Dandel Ion
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On March 14 2013 03:11 Acrofales wrote: Yeah, but I think three duds would also be stupid. So one of them is probably real. It's worth waiting and seeing which. No it's not. scum would eagerly hand out/use 3 duds for exactly that line of thinking. You want to bank on the chances that 1) there are real nukes in the first place 2) cross is town 3) exactly the one targetting fool is a real one Too many assumptions imo. A lynch is a lynch and makes people dead that need to die. Sound good to me, much as I'd like kicking Vivax. | ||
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On March 14 2013 05:00 Foolishness wrote: Well if you want to be conceited about it then that's fine too. I mean I could care less about you, I'm here to win. Well that was anticlimatic. Why confirm yourself mafia so early? You could have at least tried to fake a case on marv or cross. That would have been popcorn-worthy at least. So boring. | ||
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On March 14 2013 05:27 prplhz wrote: i assume that scum did it to make me look worse because i've already attracted some heat. i don't know why they want me voting vivax though but if he's really town then maybe that's why. they could have made me vote anybody but they'd probably not want me to vote scum. Hello, have you seen my WIFOM? I must have lost it while I was on the toilet, those loose bowels, you know? | ||
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On March 14 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote: I am paranoid as shit about yamato's disappearance though not alignment indicative imo. | ||
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On March 14 2013 08:53 supersoft wrote: You cannot all be scum: I command you to unvote. ##UNVOTE Meh unvoting is overrated if i don't have anybody to vote instead. | ||
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On March 14 2013 10:06 slOosh wrote: He is also 100% sure that yamato is scum so that's a null point. Instead of pointing out the (what should be) obvious gaping logical holes of scum Foolishness' "case" in determining the three reads, you go after something inane. C'mon - rip it apart marv! There is actually plenty of reason to lynch yamato first - him flipping red does a lot to the current playing field, which is why I'm waiting on supersoft / Foolishness. I would like to expand this request, marv. Adress the other two reads fool posted in there too. | ||
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On March 14 2013 10:28 strongandbig wrote: Would town Marv really try and run "I'm town because I've posted more one liners than in any of my previous scum games"? Like, really? Do you or do you not remember MtG2? | ||
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On March 14 2013 13:46 Acrofales wrote: I have skimmed your filter in NMM 33, but it's hard to get a proper impression without reading more. At first glance you seem more dogged and pushy here than in NMM 33, however as Mocsta said, it was your first game ever. I don't have time to really read that game right now, I might tomorrow. In the meantime there are Yamato, Prom, Marv and DI who know that game far better than I do. I trust them to do a better job than I ever could of any meta analysis of your scum play. Prom, Yamato, Marv, DI: what do you think of Cora? I'm off to bed. I honestly can't remember it that well. I forget shit pretty fast. Cora was in that game, claimed scum, people went "oh why would scum claim scum lol" and he lived the townie life for a while, then he conceded after doing a bad fakeclaim. That is literally all I remember. So I don't think much about him. Obviously he'll have improved his game after that, so I'm not sure how much a meta comparison from that game holds water. | ||
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On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote: But in your first post you seemed to accuse Vivax, and now you two seem to be butt-buddies. Aren't you contradicting yourself? No. In my first post I thought Vivax was suspicious, and I hinted at my reasoning. That story post was made in haste after reading the thread and I called him out based on gut instinct from his filter. I was in a rush cause it's the end of the school quarter here and I'm quite busy (e.g. research paper due, finals, etc.). Later in day 1 I examined the thread and I had time to analyze a few people (more on who these people are later in this post). I looked at Vivax's history and realized I made a mistake. There is a post in my filter which explains why. It should be noted that while Vivax is rather spammy and not the most coherent at times, it is 100% clear that he is putting in an effort to figure things out and get things done for the town. Okay so here's the thing: He says he analyzed a couple people. Cool. Town on Vivax after accusing him, purely on his meta interpretations. Not that he actually shares those. I somehow lost the part he writes about yamato in the quotemonster, but it's metameta too. Even some meta from completely different people, l0l. Too lazy to dig it up again, you can read it in his post yourself~.~ He also does legthy meta-blabla on marv, but I'd like to wait for marv to address that, so I'm not mentioning it yet myself. You can read it. So, apparantly he likes to use meta, huh? wait a minute Okay, it's definitely clear that yamato77 is mafia, but what of your other reads? I will talk about marvellosity in a bit. After the nuke incident I believe that Crossfire is mafia. His nuke against me was an incredibly rash thing to do, especially after people in the thread were saying to hold off on killing me one more day (the same people who include a mod-confirmed townie). It makes sense from a mafia perspective. I just nuked one of their teammates so they are screwed, since dodging a nuke is near-impossible. They see this and realize that I'm on the right track in figuring them out (say for example I'm correct about marvellosity) so they nuke me immediately to prevent me from causing further damage. I myself, as mafia in past games, have done this many times. Some person comes out in the thread and kills a teammate or posts a big analysis that's very bad for our team, I shoot them immediately to stop them from doing further damage. Also consider the fact that crossfire was in no danger of getting killed at the moment. If he was about to get lynched I can see sending out a nuke as a last ditch effort to survive or make something happen (hey I just kinda did it, though my motivation is way different). It was completely out of the blue, just as yamato's day vigi was completely out of the blue. I analyzed this guy day 1 but didn't come up with anything conclusive. On one hand he hadn't done anything to exhibit being mafia, but nothing striking to say he was for sure town either. With his nuke shot we now know where his agenda is and what side of the town he's on. Dang. Analyzing CROSS didn't come up with anything conclusive? WHAT? He's been playing to his mafia meta TO A TEE for most of the game, and especially and purely so on day 1. Yet there is no mention of that, what actually would have been a legit point, in favor of "QQ he nuked me so I dun like him!!!" That is a clear sign he did not actually look at Cross, or "analyze" him, if you will. Yet he's stated him as a higher lynch priority than marv On what basis? Read the above quote. That's his thoughts on Cross. Does it SOUND like he's more sure of him than marv? No. He's stated marv and yamato both to be "100%". So to want to lynch cross over marv, he would have to be 100% on him as well. Does not sound like it. -> Scum Foolishness is scared of having marv's mislynch on his hands, since it would guarantee his death in the near future, in some way. So he wants to push yamato/cross instead. The way he's doing it however, suggests he does NOT actually want to lynch Cross. Actual legitimate arguments against Cross are not brought up, instead we get this weaksauce omgus stuff. This can suggest two things: Either he was too lazy to put in the effort, or, he's scum with Cross and didn't want to actually nail him to the cross (huehue), at least not yet. Neither of the two are of a townie mindset. Seriously read the Cross part. He's trying to call him scum without getting him lynched. Clear as day. As I noted, I'll wait for marv to address the parts about himself first, but there's more in there too. | ||
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On March 14 2013 21:32 Vivax wrote: Forgot to add Dandel to the possible scum. Oats is likely just bad townie. Please make a list with your top 15 scumreads. | ||
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On March 14 2013 21:34 Dandel Ion wrote: Please make a list with your top 15 scumreads. This is very serious btw. I don't need your reasoning, just gimme that list. | ||
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Okay, give me your top 5 (6) townreads. 6 if supersoft is included. | ||
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On March 14 2013 21:49 Vivax wrote: Why don't you tell me why all on the yamato wagon were town instead (Cora likely town) and thus, all mafia were on Bugs/Crossfire/me/something else than yamato? Refusal to share reads noted. | ||
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Some stupid townies say it's concerning when I play "normally", it's like asking me to play crazy and anti-town just to not get lynched. I don't know what's up with people. They think I'd play the same in every game, I'm not that stupid as either alignment, and I keep learning more about this game. Are you playing crazy and anti-town just to not get lynched? Sure looks like you trying to play what's supposedly "normal" for you. Cuz I know you'd be able to not be a massive dickhead if you tried to. If you want I can also quote some of your posts demanding lynches on other players (like me!) for playing blatantly anti-town. What gives? Also, I need your top 5 townreads. | ||
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On March 14 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 14 2013 22:39 Dandel Ion wrote: Hey Vivax besides having abysmal reads, what about this: Are you playing crazy and anti-town just to not get lynched? Sure looks like you trying to play what's supposedly "normal" for you. Cuz I know you'd be able to not be a massive dickhead if you tried to. If you want I can also quote some of your posts demanding lynches on other players (like me!) for playing blatantly anti-town. What gives? Also, I need your top 5 townreads. My townreads are my not-scumreads, Mengenlehre. Go on. You have not given a sufficient number of scumreads. I need your top 15 scumreads, then. | ||
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On March 14 2013 22:41 marvellosity wrote: THAT is what i want to talk about right now. Or Foolish constantly demanding a long case from me when syllogism clearly articulated that mafia Foolish gets pissy when he doesn't get a nice long case on him. Well that's kinda meh. I can see somebody demanding a case, happens often enough from either alignment. I don't like the way he kept harping about it, but that's not a big deal. For all I know town Foolish gets equally pissy. I think he's scum, but that's at best a supporting argument. at best. Like Dandel. Tell me what you think about what I said about slOosh, tell me about what you think about what I said about Corazon, and how Foolish has a strong townread on him. I'm not really sold on slOosh, unsure what to think about him. Your case on Corazon is good imo, and I can see lynching him somewhere down the line, but he feels more like a "tomorrow", if that. I didn't look into either of those much myself, really, I gotta 'fess. Foolish's reads are rather contradictionary to mine across the board, except I'm "only" null on Vivax (tho he should eat a vig bullet regardless) and Yamato (now that he's mia for days) respectively. That is concerning, seeing as your reads are reeelatively close to mine (and I'm pretty damn sure youre town), so it can't be that he's "just that much better than me" or anything like that. So remaining explaination is he's scum. The rest is association and much as i love that shit nobody flipped yet. | ||
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