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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 16 2013 11:17 GMT
#3821
On March 16 2013 20:16 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 16 2013 20:14 marvellosity wrote:
On March 16 2013 20:13 DarthPunk wrote:
The way that the "Vet's" have played vet balance is a joke and complete bollocks besides.


find me a normal game ever that doesn't have one or two vets on the scumteam and then tell me it's bollocks

thanks


So Ver is the only 'vet' other than foolishness? everyone knows you are at least as good as foolishness/ver ever was and there are lots of other very very good players in the game.

Also I KNOW it's bollocks because I KNOW the game was balanced like that.


bugs wasn't mafia, BC was town, super was town, VE was town, Foolishness was, apparently, town, i know i'm town

what other vets should i be taking into account?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 16 2013 11:18 GMT
#3822
you also have no idea how the game is balanced.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 16 2013 11:18 GMT
#3823
Acro, Hiro, prplz, you, austin, risk.nuke if they even took it into account.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 16 2013 11:19 GMT
#3824
On March 16 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
you also have no idea how the game is balanced.


And you do?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 16 2013 11:19 GMT
#3825
i included myself, and those others aren't in the same category.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 16 2013 11:19 GMT
#3826
On March 16 2013 20:19 DarthPunk wrote:
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On March 16 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
you also have no idea how the game is balanced.


And you do?


I know that kita will not tell you how the game was balanced or setup. Why don't you ask a green question in thread hmm?

How do you KNOW how the game was balanced? Explain this to me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 16 2013 11:22 GMT
#3827
On March 16 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 16 2013 20:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 16 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
you also have no idea how the game is balanced.


And you do?


I know that kita will not tell you how the game was balanced or setup. Why don't you ask a green question in thread hmm?

How do you KNOW how the game was balanced? Explain this to me.


I DON"T I was arguing against YOU Knowing. the only way I know it wasn't balanced how you were implying is that I know ver's alignment.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 16 2013 11:24 GMT
#3828
ah. that actually makes sense. i still think you're mafia though, but town's not gonna go with me on this.

don't know how easy it is to call slOosh mafia anymore either given his terrible tunnel of me but it's not as shit as Foolish's was and he apparently flipped town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 16 2013 11:24 GMT
#3829
I don't think Stutters is mafia tho
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 16 2013 11:33 GMT
#3830
hey marv why do you put any faith at all in a cop check

that you announced beforehand

also what other powers do you have on that joat?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 16 2013 11:33 GMT
#3831
On March 16 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think Stutters is mafia tho


Obviously. If you think I am mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 16 2013 11:42 GMT
#3832
Marv.

Important lynch..

Who do you want to lynch?
No gg, No skill.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 16 2013 11:43 GMT
#3833
marv full roleclaim
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 16 2013 11:46 GMT
#3834
Actually I agree, marv you should do a full roleclaim.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 16 2013 11:47 GMT
#3835
btw. I'm on the train and I have one hour of free internet.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 16 2013 11:49 GMT
#3836
On March 16 2013 20:47 risk.nuke wrote:
btw. I'm on the train and I have one hour of free internet.


GOOO
2 lynch targets.
Marv's alignment.
Vivax's alignment.

Weird town read and why.
No gg, No skill.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 16 2013 11:51 GMT
#3837
The reason is I am in to the idea of lynching DP. And if marv is town will likely be killed tonight and he's already outed himself. I haven't been able to read marv at all this game. I'm not the first to say it but he's activity is townie while I don't feel his usual passion and his reads have been subpar. Additionally Foolishness wanted him dead. All and all there are currently plenty of reason to doubt marv. So marv, please help convince me we should trust you.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 16 2013 12:15 GMT
#3838
So, um, I sifted through 25 pages of Marv. And...

Fuck me.

On March 11 2013 11:59 marvellosity wrote:
That just means yamato is a tit, doesn't mean he's mafia. Not worth gambling on today anyway.

Every one of Corazon's posts are atrocious. His "joke" about balancing the game, his stance on yamato and Oats, his dumb anger. I might vote him for now and see how it goes.

##Vote: cDgCorazon


Town Marv has balls, no? Why does this Marv have no balls? Why does this Marv say stuff like "we'll see how it goes" when talking about who he wants to lynch? Just, fuck that. He does it more than once, too:

On March 12 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 01:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Seriously guys I'm not scum. Last time xfire did this that I remember he was total scummers (MtGII), last time I did this I was still town.


you've never done this.


Let's give this a go actually.

##Vote: Stutters


WTF MARV, WHY?!

On March 12 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would also vote for Crossfire. He has contributed nothing original all game.

##Vote Crossfire


give me your advice, VE. you've played with bugs for good and for bad. should i kill crossfire or bugs?


Yet another weak vote. Totally ball-less.

On March 11 2013 12:00 marvellosity wrote:
also I agree that Stutters looks pretty terrible. I gave up reading Crossfire's filter because it was too painful.


These one-liner comments on people get really old after a while. He gives his consent many times, or sometimes his curiosity, to lynch many people who are all lurky and easy to lynch, and all of it comes on day 1.

On March 11 2013 12:15 marvellosity wrote:
thats interesting on yamato, VE. i'll take another look at him tomorrow


On March 12 2013 03:10 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 03:09 yamato77 wrote:
Prom, kill super with me.

Marv, you too. You know super as town is not a pile of shit.

He's obviously here, reading the thread, he's just fucking off.

I say that's mafia super right there.


maybe. i'm willing to wait a while to see what he has to say though.

bugs on the other hand has so far wanted to kill a mod-confirmed townie and done jack shit since.


On March 12 2013 08:05 marvellosity wrote:
I could happily vote for Crossfire. What's keeping you back on bugs? Is it just that he's a vet?


On March 12 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 09:31 strongandbig wrote:
it's also possible that yamato had to say the "pro gf snipe" line for his shot to work, and he wasn't actually an anonymous dayvig but just has managed to trick everyone into thinking he was.

just playing devil's advocate.


huh. that's kinda interesting.


On March 12 2013 11:47 marvellosity wrote:
so how about dat Vivax lynch?


On March 11 2013 23:20 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 11 2013 23:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote: Vivax

Uuuugghhhhhhh......what are your thoughts on Bugs man?


There's 4 people in orange on my spreadsheet currently: bugs, corazon, stutters, prplhz.

I'm going to make myself read Crossfire's and bugs' filters in the next couple of hours.


The list even grows at times, in line with thread sentiment about lynching people.

On March 12 2013 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Marv what do you make of Hiro? I don't see anything making me think he's town yet instead he seems to be sure that yamato's announcement meant Kurumi was confirmed town, wouldn't he doubt it at first since he's been pushing him as scumread just before?

Doesn't look to me like suspicious townie rather like scum that doesn't mind switching his target to a guy that's basically grushlike as town and unknown as mafia since he was scared of pushing a guy who has been announced as town.


Hiro's not really on my radar at the moment. He's not done anything to massively convince me he's town, but nothing to particularly make me think he's mafia either. He had the same reaction as I did to kita's announcement; without further evidence there is extremely little point lynching someone the host has announced as town.

There are simply way more other viable targets - xfire, sloosh, prplhz, Stutters, corazon, bugs - for me to worry about Hiro right now.


At times he makes posts longer than one-line when giving his read, but it is mostly after noting they are mafia and seeing thread sentiment. Also, they contain low amounts of analysis. EX:

On March 11 2013 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
Alright that sounds fine. Crossfire's filter was mercifully shorter than I thought and is completely awful.

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On March 10 2013 15:12 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 10 2013 15:02 yamato77 wrote:
I don't know, while I hate Crossfire, I hate that post from Ver even more.

Decisions, decisions.

Why are you fit to be tied? I ain't dun notin'. You're darn tootin', though, 'bout Ver. That is a cattywumpus post. I figure he got a 20% chance a playin' gainst his win condition, which sure seems suspect.


Indeed, he's done nothing. And yet he's happy to tell yamato he's done nothing:

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On March 10 2013 15:29 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 10 2013 15:16 yamato77 wrote:
You haven't done anything, precisely.

You must be walkin' on a slant if you think you dun somethin' so far.


This post says literally nothing at all, except that he's basically defending Kurumi:


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On March 11 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yo, be easy and stop buggin folks. True, dis game be tight, but we don't want dis gettin outta hand and turnin into beef.

On March 11 2013 03:01 HiroPro wrote:
yo, unless one of them admits they were lying right now, we should be lynching between kurumi and bugs today. both of them have claimed chezinu - bugs's anagram is a an anagram for brown brotherhood.

at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker.

##Vote Kurumi

also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much.

Aight, I'mma lay dis down fo yo. Votin for non-alignment reasons be wack. Na mean? Role playin be dope and errbody should be crunk bout it.


And again, defending Kurumi:

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On March 11 2013 05:27 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 11 2013 05:14 HiroPro wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yo, be easy and stop buggin folks. True, dis game be tight, but we don't want dis gettin outta hand and turnin into beef.

On March 11 2013 03:01 HiroPro wrote:
yo, unless one of them admits they were lying right now, we should be lynching between kurumi and bugs today. both of them have claimed chezinu - bugs's anagram is a an anagram for brown brotherhood.

at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker.

##Vote Kurumi

also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much.

Aight, I'mma lay dis down fo yo. Votin for non-alignment reasons be wack. Na mean? Role playin be dope and errbody should be crunk bout it.


man what are you talking about. it's not about kurumi roleplaying. it's about the fact that he was lying about who he was. he has admitted that he was lying so it looks a little better than if he tried to go with what risk.nuke came up with. but there is a clear mafia motivation in trying to fake a hard-to-read personality like Chezinu.

Just cause he be fakin jacks don't mean he scum. Role aint got nutin to do wit alignment. Judge 'im on if he bring dat bling (Chez brings da bling when he be from our hood and go off on dem scum). No bling, call da po-po, lock 'im in da joint, and give 'im dat needle.


Crossfire's done nothing but he's done nothing in a way where his only limited contributions are a defence of Kurumi. He's decided not to use ANY of his time whatsoever to look for mafia.

Not sure why you unvoted this guy VE :p


On March 12 2013 01:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 01:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 12 2013 01:29 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 01:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Just sheep me.


... no. I did just go back and skim Stutters' filter in Themed by the way. Just like LIX there's evidence of critical thought that isn't in this game, e.g.

On February 15 2013 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:
After checking his full filter, what really concerns me is that he does it again (misusing meta). If he said I should be policy lynched because he doesn't like how I'm playing I'd totally understand that. But implying I'm scummy despite multiple games with me with similar d1 posting by me doesn't sit wellwhen combined with what I said about Marv and him.

Other than those posts he doesn't say a whole lot. I'm leaning scum since all his other posts are calling people town and saying kurumi was scummy but never following through. I'd really like to hear his thoughts on who he'd lynch if I wasnt an option before I rush to judgement on him though since I've had people do this who were scum and town.

Going through filters who really concerns me is Mr.CC. I cohosted one of his games and obsed the others and I don't think I've ever seen him this inactive. That feels like a really large change. I need to see if he has actually played any non-newbies but unless he shows up he'd be a good policy lynch. Still going through filters though, that just stood out as really off to me.


I have gotten the feeling you agreed on Crossfire.
So why don't you want to actually agree?


because there are a lot of viable targets. and what you said about Stutters simply isn't true.


This post is notable for two things. One is what I said before, that he is largely a quote-machine with low-analysis. Another is that he seems intent on keeping this group of players he mentioned before firmly within a circle of him to lynch into, in line with the general thread sentiment. How he goes about deciphering thread sentiment, I will go into later.

On March 12 2013 02:08 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 02:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh, and Marvello is town.

I'll let that simmer through.


I've been sufficiently dickish, have I? ^^


This post contains another thing I find odd, which is Marv pushing his own towniness. He does this as either alignment, but he seems to do it here in a way that AFFIRMS AND ENCOURAGES this behavior instead of his normal passive comments about how townie he looks. Marv knows when he looks town or not as town, and makes judgements. This quote, though, is not that, and is something I noticed more than once.

On March 12 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 12 2013 05:01 Vivax wrote:
Marv I'll try to put this nice you prefer to argue that someone is townie instead of arguing that someone is scummier than that guy and should be lynch that is worrying and not productive you are being unnaturally sure that yamato is town at this stage.


It feels like you're not reading the thread at all.

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On March 12 2013 04:46 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:41 supersoft wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:34 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 04:31 supersoft wrote:
addtion to B) 2. the claim was probably unnecessary, a more likely option would have been to not claim. but who know what possibilities there are to detect the personalitly of a player.


this is what I can't get over, whether there are possibilities for discovering the personality of a player or not. if he's playing like mafia in a couple of days time then he can be lynched still. i just don't understand the risk.

say there are roles that can find out personalities or even role PMs. yamato has made himself a prime cop check candidate. If he's town, are mafia just gonna frame him every night? well, good.


yes thats true.

On March 12 2013 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
as you know supersoft, yamato was lynched in our last game as mafia for not doing anything and disappearing. this doesn't feel like that at all.


and thats also true.

but the delay is also strange. and the timing is - in my opinion - only wrong for a townie. So wrong I want to cry.


yuh, i agree. i think town-yamato is WAY more impulsive than mafia-yamato, though.

I think he is town but I'm not certain of this fact. But there's enough there that makes me not want to lynch him today. Vivax/you/slOosh are right - it IS a good scumshot. There's no denying that. Still dunno why he claimed that shit though. And if it was actually a planned mafia-move, I would have expected a more concise, well thought through explanation.

Remember that slOosh was talking about when he fake-claimed vigilante in Bureaucracy? Look at the difference - slOosh took however long he took constructing a post to look as good as he could make it to try to give his claim legitimacy. That's what a scumclaim like that usually looks like. yamato's is shit and all over the place, like it's not planned at all.


how is this 'unnaturally sure' yamato is town? Hello?


This post is strange. He argued for the better part of the day that I was not mafia, but here he seems to suggest that he isn't sure that I am town. It also shows that he is UNWILLING TO TAKE ANY REAL STANCES about people. Look at all the posts I have quoted so far from day 1. How many times does Marv take a stance and make a definitive read? Fucking zero. He's just kinda winging it with thread sentiment. This is how Marv played the WHOLE FUCKING DAY 1 LYNCH.

So how does he want to decide on the lynch? Sheep veteran players.

On March 12 2013 06:00 marvellosity wrote:
All of those you mention. I assume VE will come in later and post as is his usual schedule, but the rest fo them have been worse than useless.

supersoft too, he's not helping provide any direction when I know he can. He's been in the thread, why isn't he helping me arrive at a good lynch here?


This particular attitude is not one I would expect from a town Marvellosity. He's continually refusing to take hard stances on people, and is waiting for players who we now know to be town to post and give him an inkling of where to go with his vote. That does not sound like town Marvellosity.

So that is basically all Marv did of importance day 1. As I asked before, where did his balls go? Where are his reads? He gives consent to lynch people, but where are his real stances? It seems difficult to tell. It doesn't look like he took ANY, even with his vote. He wanted to sheep strong townies who subsequently died. This is disturbing.

So what's the counter-argument here? OH I KNOW, HE TOOK A STAND NIGHT 1 AGAINST FOOLISH:

On March 12 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote:
i have no idea why people are listening to foolish at all this game.

he outried lied to put suspicion on me (said he was always suspicious of me when we played together), THEN lied again when i pulled him up (said we'd played town once), and THEN corrected his story once again to that he found me suspicious in the game I smurfed (LIX), which for the uneducated was the game I tunnelled 2 mafia Day 1, got elected and lynched a mafia, then lynched mafia every day

It's piles upon piles of lies as an excuse to call me suspicious, and it's all fucking bullshit.

He still hasn't explained WHY HE WOULD LIE ABOUT IT in order to call me suspicious.


Here is the beginning of the period of time I call the Foolish Tunnel. Get it? He tunneled foolish, and it was...

Oh, nevermind. POINT BEING, this tunnel was based on very little aside from a reaction to Foolish calling Marvellosity mafia for reasons he seemed to think were lies. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't, but the important thing to note here is that his initial reaction to being accused is the first real emotion witnessed out of Marv this whole game, and basically the only thing he's taken a real stance on.

On March 14 2013 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
supersoft - should we lynch Vivax?


Day 2, and he's still appealing to the town vets, despite his earlier proclamation:

On March 13 2013 12:57 marvellosity wrote:
it's cora or the fool today. not seeing anything else to persuade me otherwise.


Shame.

And then there's these consecutive gems:

On March 14 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
I am paranoid as shit about yamato's disappearance though


On March 14 2013 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
Foolishness, in all seriousness, if you can make a serious case on yamato I'm all ears. Gogo.


Marv, you lied. This is you setting up to lynch me, and you know it. Total bullshit, considering what you've said about myself/Foolish this game. I knew I noticed something important when I noted this shit.

On March 14 2013 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 14 2013 22:35 prplhz wrote:
can you guys calm down it's just a game


no, because every time i play in a game with Vivax it literally diminishes my intelligence, and it's deeply depressing.


This post day 2 unveils another thing about Marv's play this game that is abhorrent, which is his continual arguing with Vivax. WHEN TOLD THIS IS FUCKING DUMB AS SHIT, HE CONTINUES TO DO SO, BUT I KNOW HE KNOWS BETTER:



Original Message From FiveTouch:
by the way, don't rage at Vivax, ignore him.

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Original Message From yamato77:
Idk, if he's town he's so full of confirmation bias it's sickening.

It's not hard for mafia to fake this type of thing IMO

Original Message From FiveTouch:
just vivax being retarded, again.

Original Message From yamato77:
Pretty sure that post I pointed out is a slip.

I think they're both mafia.

Original Message From FiveTouch:
yes, we have to lynch gonzaw I think.

Original Message From yamato77:
Then why is he doing it? Is he assuming town is going to lynch Gonzaw to confirm his check? Is he thinking town is going to assume his check is true and lynch other people based on it, like he wants to?

Town lynches gonzaw, he flips green, Vivax is either mafia or Gonzaw was framed (likely excuse)
Town lynches gonzaw, he flips red, Vivax makes his associations, and town is likely to ignore him because he's wrong, but he gains town cred.
Town lynches someone else at this point, which I find unlikely.

OR, we work this out to conclude Vivax is probably mafia from it.

As you asked, why does he seem to think Gonzaw is useless now? Not only is it wrong, it's a ridiculously stupid notion to not want to lynch someone you have a red check on in favor of some weak association cases.

Idk, I don't think Vivax is this stupid. It's a WIFOM bomb for sure, because there's zero reason to do what he's doing as any alignment. I don't think a red flip on Gonzaw exonerates Vivax, but I do think we lynch him to either call mafia Vivax's potential bluff or basically confirm Vivax as mafia.

Original Message From FiveTouch:
it's stupid, but he must know there's no way town is going to lynch a mayor who lynched mafia day 1.

also he said gonzaw's powers are used up, which isn't true.

Original Message From yamato77:
I'm just trying to figure out what this says about his alignment. Would he do this as town? Push for lynching the mayor over someone he has a red check on?

It's kind of stupid tbh.

Original Message From FiveTouch:
he won't get me lynched, so that's fine.

Original Message From yamato77:
Is is kind of ridiculous but note that he's pushing for lynching you, not Gonzaw. 1 for mayor might be good in this situation.

Idk, if we lynch Gonzaw and he flips red I would be happy with the idea of town Vivax who is simply retarded, but I still see the possibility that he is the one setting up to "appear" to bus his own teammate when in reality he's trying to get you or me lynched instead.

[quote]


He's continuing to argue with Vivax intentionally, which is obviously mafia motivated. His spewing on about Foolish/Vivax is LEGENDARY, yet when I try to talk about other stuff, he gives nothing worthwhile:

On March 14 2013 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 14 2013 23:34 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, who is scum besides Foolish?

You seem to be treating Vivax as if you think he's town, why?

And for Cora, what aside from the association stuff makes you think he's mafia?

What about Sloosh? Do you think his continued tunnel of me is town like?

And Acro, what has he done so far this game but try and get us to lynch Corazon?


I linked, just two pages ago, my post I made about Corazon's mentality. I also said quite a lot of things about him Day 1. Nothing changed in that regard.

Talking about Foolish is NOT association stuff. A townie doesn't avoid big issues, that's the point.


On March 14 2013 23:40 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax is still [red]Vivax!. Because he's fucking insane. He seems to be insane in an even more anti-town way than normal though.

Acro wants to kill Corazon which is good. The main thing I don't like about Acro is how he called Foolishness null for ages. So I don't know.

slOosh is on the mafia side for me right now. He's purposefully twisting things. Again, like the post I made a few pages ago about how he wanted to lynch me first, I said I should be lynched first (theoretically) and he's like no! lynching yamato first is just as good! despite saying he thinks I should be lynched first. He specifically changed his stance in the space of 2 posts just to disagree with what I'd written.


On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
On March 14 2013 23:44 yamato77 wrote:
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On March 14 2013 23:40 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax is still [red]Vivax!. Because he's fucking insane. He seems to be insane in an even more anti-town way than normal though.

Acro wants to kill Corazon which is good. The main thing I don't like about Acro is how he called Foolishness null for ages. So I don't know.

slOosh is on the mafia side for me right now. He's purposefully twisting things. Again, like the post I made a few pages ago about how he wanted to lynch me first, I said I should be lynched first (theoretically) and he's like no! lynching yamato first is just as good! despite saying he thinks I should be lynched first. He specifically changed his stance in the space of 2 posts just to disagree with what I'd written.

I think Vivax is actually mafia, but I don't have time to make the case until after the deadline, and it'll be stronger with the Foolish flip.

I basically agree with your Acro logic in total, so that's good.

I want to talk more about Sloosh, though. Aside from playing contradictory to you, what else in his filter factors into your read on him?


It's all kinda swaying around the middle. Tunnels yamato all day? bad. decides to come off the tunnel? good.

Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good.

Really it's his most recent behaviour that's the most interesting. Like, why is he picking me up for saying "I'm more abrasive as town" instead of "I'm less abrasive as mafia"? They are quite evidently exactly the same thing. He's not stupid.


No real conclusions, nothing to note. He won't even call them town/scum, he just calls them "interesting" or "good" or "bad" which is concerning. His comments don't reach conclusions about their alignment, which is complete bullshit for Marv at this point in the game with this big of a filter.

Then I tell him, stop tunneling Foolish and do something important:

On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:38 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, I really don't want you to spend your limited time picking apart arguments from Foolishness.


Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that.


On March 15 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 15 2013 00:38 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, I really don't want you to spend your limited time picking apart arguments from Foolishness.


Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that.

I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot.

It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point.


yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted.

The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone.


On March 15 2013 00:45 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:44 yamato77 wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:38 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, I really don't want you to spend your limited time picking apart arguments from Foolishness.


Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that.

I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot.

It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point.


yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted.

The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone.

He's still the leading vote-getter by far, dude. You don't need to push his lynch, it's already happening.

Why not talk about something else that is more useful? You've been on this Foolish bullshit all day basically. Give it a rest.


fuck off, yamato.


[B]On March 15 2013 00:47 marvellosity wrote:
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[B]On March 15 2013 00:46 yamato77 wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:45 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:44 yamato77 wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 00:38 yamato77 wrote:
Marv, I really don't want you to spend your limited time picking apart arguments from Foolishness.


Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that.

I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot.

It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point.


yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted.

The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone.

He's still the leading vote-getter by far, dude. You don't need to push his lynch, it's already happening.

Why not talk about something else that is more useful? You've been on this Foolish bullshit all day basically. Give it a rest.


fuck off, yamato.

It's not useful anymore to do what you're doing.

You're not stupid, Marv. You can get mad at me or whatever, but I think you know he's dead in the water already.


it is useful, because there's still a bunch of Foolishness fanboys, not all of which are mafia. Don't ever tell me how to play again, please.


He won't do it. BUT I KNOW HE KNOWS BETTER, AND ANYONE THAT IS TOWN KNOWS THAT I AM RIGHT IN THIS SITUATION.

Fuck you, mafia Marv. You tricked me, you tricked me good. And Vivax's e-peen will grow one million inches after this game, but he was right about you all along. I can't believe I'm so fucking terrible.

Town, listen to me. Marv is going to yell. Marv is going to scream. Ignore him. Silently, place your votes in the thread, and await his lynch. His buddies might defend him, because it's going to be difficult to lynch him, but keep to it. We have to kill Marv today. If you are town, you know the things I type about Marv in this post are true. He is mafia. Lynch him.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 16 2013 12:18 GMT
#3839
Shoulda listened to my gut about you, marv.

I've played too many games with you.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 16 2013 12:26 GMT
#3840
inb4 marv calls me mafia

inb4 marv invokes dead townies' reads on him

inb4 marv talks about his activity level as if that is how much he cares about this game

inb4 marv types a post in all caps saying I am mafia and this is absurd

inb4 marv calls me stupid and/or bad
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