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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:24 DarthPunk wrote: Holy Crap reading this thread is painful. it's fairly easy to distinguish spam posts from serious posts so just skim the first category and reread it in filters if you need to. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote: Only scum wants to skip pages cause they already know who is scum/town. So therefore nothing is important to them really. Also their scumbuddies can notify them about important things. What are you saying here? It sounds like you are calling yamato scum without actually calling him scum? Care to clarify? | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:28 DarthPunk wrote: I was all like better read marvs filter. 26 pages. :o Just read my filter. Prom's filter is actually pretty good, too. Read Foolish and decide for yourself what alignment you think he is. Read Corazon. Read sloosh Read strong and big. Ignore Vivax/Marv for obvious reasons. You should be able to figure out what's happened in the game from that stuff. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:20 yamato77 wrote: I won't claim to have a magical meta-activity-read on risk, and that seems to be what most reads on him are based on?Austin, what's your read on risk.nuke? He's in the group I'm concerned with. I don't like that he's still there. I'll skip a discussion of the bits of his filter that I can't figure out - his pushing non-majority targets D1 (scum being present but not really interacting with the thread or actual hunting of interesting targets), On March 13 2013 18:53 risk.nuke wrote: Foolishness just pulled a stunt, I'll revaluate based on how that goes. Before that I would porbably had been fine lynching him based on his performance. This quote worries me. I didn't remember this until filtering just now. I don't THINK foolishness claimed his nuke to be a stunt. This was before slOosh spoke on the nukes, before Crossfire launched his nuke. But risk seems to know that the nuke that Foolish launched was a "stunt." It's...gah. Foolishness didn't know the nuke was fake at this point, unless EVERYONE is scum, so it...it isn't incriminating? It really isn't scummy unless risk and slOosh were both scum, because only then could risk know that the nuke was a "stunt" and not a real nuke? Blech, not as important as I thought. The ONLY thing in his filter that really gives me a whiff of anything is him picking up on Foolishness's role feeling like crap. That makes me mildly townie on him. It puts him above prplhz, hiropro, possibly strongandbig in the group of players that I keep lumping together. risk's filter is going to look a LOT more informative with a couple flips though. His D1 targets and his "reevaluation" of his non-Foolishness lynches for today seem like they could be telling once we fill in other holes. If you can find more in his filter to read him off of, be my guest. But there's very little in there that's doing anything for me one way or the other, barring not trusting Foolishness's claim. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:23 HiroPro wrote: also does anyone even remember that stutters is playing in this game? he has not mentioned a single thing about what is going on today or taken a stance on whether foolishness is scum, only dropped in twice to say nothing. I am fully assuming he will get replaced/modkilled today anyways, so I don't bother with him. Why the guy still /ins games just to not play them, I don't know. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
The rest of Foolish's post on me will have to wait until later when i'm off work. | ||
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Vivax
21978 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:33 DarthPunk wrote: What are you saying here? It sounds like you are calling yamato scum without actually calling him scum? Care to clarify? He shot a townie (Kurumi) over his scumread (VE) with the argument that Kurumi voted for himself. He made that decision within 13 minutes after the vote, while Kurumi was under suspicion from other players, for roleplaying in a roleplaying game, after claiming a role that scum would never claim cause it was so good. Is yamato townie enough for you? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:33 yamato77 wrote: Just read my filter. Prom's filter is actually pretty good, too. Read Foolish and decide for yourself what alignment you think he is. Read Corazon. Read sloosh Read strong and big. Ignore Vivax/Marv for obvious reasons. You should be able to figure out what's happened in the game from that stuff. Eh. I'll probably read the whole thread and then go back through filters after. Thanks for recommending that reading though, I have to say I am not in love with Promes posting style this game. Anyway, I think I can figure the rest of this shit out on my own. Don't want to clutter the thread now, do we? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:38 yamato77 wrote: Marv, I really don't want you to spend your limited time picking apart arguments from Foolishness. Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:28 yamato77 wrote: Yes, Foolish dies today. I think Stutters being afk is standard Stutters, but I will give his filter a look see. You have been pushing him all game. What are some other reads. If you take the Foolish thing out of the equation, how do you view Marvellosity? marvel is town to me even if i ignore foolishness being there. he just has much more interest when he is town and feels genuine. sloosh is probably also mafia. maybe corazon but i am not sure with him as with sloosh because i can't tell whether he would genuinely martyr like this, i thought in the beginning he came off as very fake. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote: Get a grip, it's the most important thing to do in the thread. I'm exposing Foolishness, and you need to read the post to understand that. I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot. It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote: I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot. It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point. yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted. The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:40 austinmcc wrote: If anyone can get a legitimately strong read on risk.nuke without using activity level or associations concerning who he's been pushing/defending, then they're seeing something I'm not. I agree with this, but I think the fact that he's done so little in three filter pages of game time is disturbing. While his mafia meta is general inactivity, it is not much of a step to go from that to posting a lot of meaningless commentary stuff. The posts he does give opinions in seem genuine, but I have a bias considering how I view Foolish. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:41 yamato77 wrote: I read the post already. I already know he lied about meta, I'm not an idiot. It's really not worthwhile to convince people you think he's mafia. Either they believe him or not, you won't change the minds of people like oats/vivax/corazon by refuting him point-by-point. Huh? One of my main points was that marv nitpicked the shit out of that post. Now he isnt, although it came after me 180ing. Keep going marv. Ok the only thing that feels off for me is that scum is going all in on this, if its who I think it is. So when foolishness flips town, they all die. Which isnt that great. So maybe they know that foolishness is town. And that he is unlynchable. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:37 Vivax wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 15 2013 00:33 DarthPunk wrote: What are you saying here? It sounds like you are calling yamato scum without actually calling him scum? Care to clarify? He shot a townie (Kurumi) over his scumread (VE) with the argument that Kurumi voted for himself. He made that decision within 13 minutes after the vote, while Kurumi was under suspicion from other players, for roleplaying in a roleplaying game, after claiming a role that scum would never claim cause it was so good. Is yamato townie enough for you? Yeah I read through all that already. To be honest that doesn't really make me think Yamato is scum. In fact I think it is a far bigger town tell than scum tell. I think a townie is far more likely to fearlessly make a reckless move like that that is likely to draw attention to themselves. Kind of funny actually cause yamato is my strongest town read so far (~page 35) for those exact reasons. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote: yes, of course i will. I need to show the thread that everything Foolishness says is twisted. The point is everyone is going "oh wow that long post looks fucking awesome!" and I'm just picking it apart, lie by lie, bullshit by bullshit. The thread needs to see that making a massive post doesn't mean town. Now leave me alone. He's still the leading vote-getter by far, dude. You don't need to push his lynch, it's already happening. Why not talk about something else that is more useful? You've been on this Foolish bullshit all day basically. Give it a rest. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 15 2013 00:44 Oatsmaster wrote: Huh? One of my main points was that marv nitpicked the shit out of that post. Now he isnt, although it came after me 180ing. Keep going marv. Ok the only thing that feels off for me is that scum is going all in on this, if its who I think it is. So when foolishness flips town, they all die. Which isnt that great. So maybe they know that foolishness is town. And that he is unlynchable. I said last night I have to go watch Walking Dead with my partner, I also said when I came into the thread today that I would only be able to work on Foolish's post properly on my lunch break. Which I then did. | ||
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