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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 14 2013 14:49 GMT
#2901
On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:44 yamato77 wrote:
On March 14 2013 23:40 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax is still [b][red]Vivax!. Because he's fucking insane. He seems to be insane in an even more anti-town way than normal though.

Acro wants to kill Corazon which is good. The main thing I don't like about Acro is how he called Foolishness null for ages. So I don't know.

slOosh is on the mafia side for me right now. He's purposefully twisting things. Again, like the post I made a few pages ago about how he wanted to lynch me first, I said I should be lynched first (theoretically) and he's like no! lynching yamato first is just as good! despite saying he thinks I should be lynched first. He specifically changed his stance in the space of 2 posts just to disagree with what I'd written.

I think Vivax is actually mafia, but I don't have time to make the case until after the deadline, and it'll be stronger with the Foolish flip.

I basically agree with your Acro logic in total, so that's good.

I want to talk more about Sloosh, though. Aside from playing contradictory to you, what else in his filter factors into your read on him?


It's all kinda swaying around the middle. Tunnels yamato all day? bad. decides to come off the tunnel? good.

Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good.

Really it's his most recent behaviour that's the most interesting. Like, why is he picking me up for saying "I'm more abrasive as town" instead of "I'm less abrasive as mafia"? They are quite evidently exactly the same thing. He's not stupid.

Hm.

I want you to give me your read on me, thought process and all.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
March 14 2013 14:50 GMT
#2902
Well cool I posted about acro ages ago along with super and you still say I'm only playing like shit despite agreeing with me?

Why not work with me to infer on further reasons to think Acro is scum and instead work against that goal?

Are you really interested into him? Then let's dig some more shall we? Can you find me some more reasons on why he's scum?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 14 2013 14:51 GMT
#2903
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
March 14 2013 14:51 GMT
#2904
BROADCAST TO ALL FANBOYS:

MARV THINKS ACRO MIGHT BE SCUM TIME TO DIG FILTERS
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 14:52 GMT
#2905
I may end up talking about you quite a bit more when I dig into Foolish's post, but I'm still leaning town on you for the original reason that I don't know why you announce your shot or take that shot. Further your aggression on numerous targets is unlike your scum-games where you generally tunnel on one person only (say hapa in british, or ... er... whoever it was in Fruity). I also liked how you conversed with ppl Night 1.

The doubts for me is your lack of activity at certain points. You excuse this with "I'm busy" but usually as town you MAKE the time to post. In fruity you were like "woops, i was lynched because i was at work and couldn't post" but that never seems to affect you when you're town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 14 2013 14:53 GMT
#2906
On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good.

ELI5?

I think that the explanation and plan go hand in hand. It LOOKED bad, but given the explanation, may not have been (or was well-intentioned, something like that). I don't think you can quite separate them this much, and the whole nuke plan still just looks very townie.


If he's scum, he gives nukes to townie people. Townie people nuke their scumreads. Those scumreads are getting nuked, quite possible that we don't lynch them (see supersoft not wanting to lynch Foolishness, see nobody wanting to lynch Kurumi D1 in bureaucracy). Day ends, we've lynched candidate #3 or #4 because 1 and 2 were getting nuked, the nukes don't go off, day is part-wasted and part spent working things out under false assumptions.

None of that happened. Instead, scummy players got nukes, to see how they used them and how people reacted. I don't call that a blatantly bad plan. I call that a very good use of the power he was given. How do you view it as blatantly bad, even outside of the explanation given?

Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 14:53 GMT
#2907
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.


lol you best have a good explanation for this one Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
March 14 2013 14:54 GMT
#2908
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.


Holy shit Oats I love you.

<3 <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 14:55 GMT
#2909
On March 14 2013 23:53 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good.

ELI5?

I think that the explanation and plan go hand in hand. It LOOKED bad, but given the explanation, may not have been (or was well-intentioned, something like that). I don't think you can quite separate them this much, and the whole nuke plan still just looks very townie.


If he's scum, he gives nukes to townie people. Townie people nuke their scumreads. Those scumreads are getting nuked, quite possible that we don't lynch them (see supersoft not wanting to lynch Foolishness, see nobody wanting to lynch Kurumi D1 in bureaucracy). Day ends, we've lynched candidate #3 or #4 because 1 and 2 were getting nuked, the nukes don't go off, day is part-wasted and part spent working things out under false assumptions.

None of that happened. Instead, scummy players got nukes, to see how they used them and how people reacted. I don't call that a blatantly bad plan. I call that a very good use of the power he was given. How do you view it as blatantly bad, even outside of the explanation given?



We didn't get much information from it and wasting half a day because volatile or suspicious people are pretending to nuke various targets isn't helpful.

As to your bold, we were lynching Foolishness today, because I went past the nuke shit.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
March 14 2013 14:55 GMT
#2910
On March 14 2013 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.


lol you best have a good explanation for this one Oats.

come on its obvious it is role related somehow.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 14 2013 14:56 GMT
#2911
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 14 2013 14:58 GMT
#2912
On March 14 2013 23:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:53 austinmcc wrote:
On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good.

ELI5?

I think that the explanation and plan go hand in hand. It LOOKED bad, but given the explanation, may not have been (or was well-intentioned, something like that). I don't think you can quite separate them this much, and the whole nuke plan still just looks very townie.


If he's scum, he gives nukes to townie people. Townie people nuke their scumreads. Those scumreads are getting nuked, quite possible that we don't lynch them (see supersoft not wanting to lynch Foolishness, see nobody wanting to lynch Kurumi D1 in bureaucracy). Day ends, we've lynched candidate #3 or #4 because 1 and 2 were getting nuked, the nukes don't go off, day is part-wasted and part spent working things out under false assumptions.

None of that happened. Instead, scummy players got nukes, to see how they used them and how people reacted. I don't call that a blatantly bad plan. I call that a very good use of the power he was given. How do you view it as blatantly bad, even outside of the explanation given?



We didn't get much information from it and wasting half a day because volatile or suspicious people are pretending to nuke various targets isn't helpful.

As to your bold, we were lynching Foolishness today, because I went past the nuke shit.

I disagree on not getting much information. We got GOOD info on slOosh and on crossfire, at least from my point of view. I'll take using 1/4 of a day cycle to get info that pretty much convinces me about the alignments of 2 players, and pulls up some minor info elsewhere (we don't know yet everything that came out of that discussion, and we won't know until later).

Do you think there was a better/townier thing to do with fake nukes?
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 14 2013 15:00 GMT
#2913
On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?


Linking role to alignment is fucking stupid. Its a themed game. Roles are crazy. Ignore it.

If foolishness looked like 95% townie, would you be more inclined to believe him and lynch marv? I would/I want to.
The more townie you look, the more people would believe you or sheep you.
I dont think getting lynched has anything to do with it.

No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22102 Posts
March 14 2013 15:03 GMT
#2914
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?


Austin, you are unlynchable but have scumreads and town still wants to lynch you over your scumreads.

Do you not post anything about your scumreads to persuade them just cause you're unlynchable?
Do you think he would just not do anything cause he's unlynchable as town?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 14 2013 15:06 GMT
#2915
On March 15 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?


Linking role to alignment is fucking stupid. Its a themed game. Roles are crazy. Ignore it.

If foolishness looked like 95% townie, would you be more inclined to believe him and lynch marv? I would/I want to.
The more townie you look, the more people would believe you or sheep you.
I dont think getting lynched has anything to do with it.

Linking role to alignment is USUALLY fucking stupid. But see the discussion earlier about phoenix wright. And see the fact that he is claiming to be UNLYNCHABLE.

That's NOT a role you can hand to scum in a balanced game, unless other people are toting ridiculous powers. We had 16 trillion calls for crossfire or vivax to get vigied N1. Neither of them got vigied. That implies that we don't have much in the way of vigi power, maybe some very conditional stuff. And yet we're somehow supposed to kill an unlynchable scum player?

No thanks. Roles usually doesn't = alignment. Unlynchable isn't just a role, unlynchable is actually bending the rules of the game. Same as supersoft's zombie role. If he flips scum and comes back as a zombie for the day...oh well. We know he's scum, we don't listen. It's a role that is absolutely 100% useless in the hands of scum, but powerful for a townie. There are certain roles, especially roles that bend/break the rules of the game, that just can't be utilized by one side, or can't be balanced if they appear on one side.

If Foolishness looked very townie, then sure, there's more of a chance I believe him. If he flips townie, or isn't lynched, and marv doesn't get NKed, then I'm more apt to look at him harder and see if he's just fooling me again. But I'm not placing my vote today based on "If this game were different, I'd probably take this action." I'm voting based on what I've seen and read in the game as it is, not as it might be.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 15:06 GMT
#2916
On March 14 2013 23:58 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:55 marvellosity wrote:
On March 14 2013 23:53 austinmcc wrote:
On March 14 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
Does a blatantly bad plan with nukes? Bad. Seems to explain it quite well? good.

ELI5?

I think that the explanation and plan go hand in hand. It LOOKED bad, but given the explanation, may not have been (or was well-intentioned, something like that). I don't think you can quite separate them this much, and the whole nuke plan still just looks very townie.


If he's scum, he gives nukes to townie people. Townie people nuke their scumreads. Those scumreads are getting nuked, quite possible that we don't lynch them (see supersoft not wanting to lynch Foolishness, see nobody wanting to lynch Kurumi D1 in bureaucracy). Day ends, we've lynched candidate #3 or #4 because 1 and 2 were getting nuked, the nukes don't go off, day is part-wasted and part spent working things out under false assumptions.

None of that happened. Instead, scummy players got nukes, to see how they used them and how people reacted. I don't call that a blatantly bad plan. I call that a very good use of the power he was given. How do you view it as blatantly bad, even outside of the explanation given?



We didn't get much information from it and wasting half a day because volatile or suspicious people are pretending to nuke various targets isn't helpful.

As to your bold, we were lynching Foolishness today, because I went past the nuke shit.

I disagree on not getting much information. We got GOOD info on slOosh and on crossfire, at least from my point of view. I'll take using 1/4 of a day cycle to get info that pretty much convinces me about the alignments of 2 players, and pulls up some minor info elsewhere (we don't know yet everything that came out of that discussion, and we won't know until later).

Do you think there was a better/townier thing to do with fake nukes?


I don't know. If my role ONLY had fake nukes i'm not sure I'd use them at all because they're liable to cause chaos. My question I guess is whether that was all his role could do or if he chose to do that in particular. In addition I find his posting in this foolish/marv thing to be extremely subpar *shrug*

Anyway I got half an hour lunch break now so I'm gonna try work on Foolish's post some.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 14 2013 15:09 GMT
#2917
On March 15 2013 00:03 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 23:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I changed my mind, too lazy to change my vote if in fact its on Foolishness.

Foolishness is town.
K got past that?

That means that Marv is scum, due to the very nice explanation and trap that foolishness did.

Now what marv did after foolishness's post is nitpick on one specific part and never mention it again. DrH said in his mafia podcast(go listen its really nice). That as scum, you dont want to address a hugeass case point by point because then more slips of logic will happen and you are now very under pressure. Instead, marv picks a small portion, blasts it, then moves on.
Now people dont really remember that and the focus is off marv and onto foolishness who cant defend himself/hammer marv cause he is not here. Then the thread goes to pieces, with marv hastening its destruction.

With Foolishness town, this means that yamato is probably scum, as well as crossfire for reasons previously stated.
Do you believe that Foolishness received a batman-posting-restriction/unlynchable/fake-1-shot-vigi PM?

If so, how does his worry over whether people listen and looking townie mesh up with the fact that he is unlynchable?
If not, can you explain why Foolishness is lying in that post?


Austin, you are unlynchable but have scumreads and town still wants to lynch you over your scumreads.

Do you not post anything about your scumreads to persuade them just cause you're unlynchable?
Do you think he would just not do anything cause he's unlynchable as town?
You'd post, and you'd try to swing the lynch other ways.

But...you'd do 2 things. You'd post reads/arguments, and you'd inform everyone you were unlynchable. You still get your reads/arguments into the thread, and people know you're not going to die, that you don't care about the lynch, etc.

Foolishness did 3 things. He posted reads/arguments, informed everyone he was unlynchable, and also worried about how townie he looked/what actions would make him look townier. To the extent that he is concerned with that, who cares, because HE WILL SURVIVE A MO-FO-ING lynch. It's good to want to look townie. It's good to want people to listen to you. It's not good to want to look townie, want people to listen to you, and conveniently forget that you are claiming to be unlynchable, which means that the actions of the game will make you look super townie as they play out. At the very least, that consideration should be in your mind. And it doesn't seem to have been there for Foolishness.
Fe fi fo fum.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 14 2013 15:09 GMT
#2918
Marv, what I want you to do for the rest of the game is to completely stop spamming the thread and only post when you have new analysis to give us.

Right now what is happening is that the thread is drowning in stupidity from people and you are contributing to it, only I know that you know better. While I agree with you about Foolish and want to lynch him, I am not confident about your alignment anymore. You're too wishy washy about other people and tunneled in this thing for me to like how you're playing. This whole thing feels wrong.

I wish Prom was here. I need a solid town read to talk to.
Writer@WriterYamato
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18148 Posts
March 14 2013 15:10 GMT
#2919
I was going to ignore Vivax, but he is spamming his factually wrong case.

On March 14 2013 23:46 Vivax wrote:
Acro is more interesting but you don't talk about Acrofales at all (except lately you mention him casually as strange)


Acrofales de-facto-proof that he's pushing scum agenda:

Says Iamp is partially suspicious for voting Bugs. Acrofales voted Bugs with this:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2013 07:27 Acrofales wrote:
Fine. My flight's boarding and browsing your filter it is looking like duel D1.

I like that last post showing how differently bugs plays as town from his useless defeatist attitude this game, and my vote on Ver is going nowhere. I'll get back to that tomorrow. When I get home I hope I can make a better reasoned out vote, but for now:

BAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAA

##vote wherebugsgo



Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 11:37 Acrofales wrote:
*snip*

Iamperfection: not his aggressive, assertive self. Could be roleplaying, but as Marv said, town Iamperfection is so easy to read, he is almost as good as an IC. Iamp is not playing like that this game. Also voted for Bugs, but has a better reason than Mocsta.

*snip*

Yes, I realize that I have way too many scumspects. This game is impossible to read and clear up townies. I'm glad I even found 4. We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow.


So bloody what? I was on the wrong wagon. I am okay with admitting that. Anybody is welcome to look at my filter. My being on the wrong wagon does NOT excuse everybody else who was ALSO on the wrong wagon. It just means that when they flip red, I will have been in rather bad company. I don't need to look into me, I have a role PM which modconfirms me as town to myself.

Also, if you see, I don't ever suspect Iamp of being scum. I just note that I am not willing to consider him town at that point, because I am wary of where his vote ended up.


We kill Ver or Cora tomorrow he says. Then the D2 action with checks and nukes arises, he says he still thinks Ver is more likely scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 13 2013 22:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 21:53 marvellosity wrote:
On March 13 2013 21:38 Acrofales wrote:
On March 13 2013 19:36 supersoft wrote:
balancediscussion in the meantime:

These players: X Scummers among them
1. Vivax
23. Promethelax
19. iamperfection
5. HiroPro
10. austinmcc
13. Oatsmaster
14. Stutters695
15. strongandbig
18. Mocsta
21. Acrofales
22. cDgCorazon
9. Intact replaced by Dandel Ion
2. Crossfire99
___________________________________________


Other players: Y Scummers among them
7. marvellosity
4. risk.nuke
6. prplhz
16. slOosh

20. Ver
- opposite aligned -
17. Foolishness
- shot -
24. yamato77


X + Y = 5

X = ?
Y = ?

tell me bros


I don't understand the dividing line for "balance" purposes. Is that veterans vs. scrubs?

As for a list from scum -> town, I just made a list last night. Nothing has changed.


given you had Foolish somewhere around null and he just shot one of your "strongest townreads", nothing changes?

Foolishness was null, leaning scum yesterday and still is. The nuke is currently meaningless, as there are too many explanations for it. Until Kita or Greymist launch the nuke, I withhold reservation. Trolling about nuking Yamato fits with his playstyle this game, which is STILL better than Ver's.

Even without your parity check, it makes sense for there to be a scum between the two giants in the game. If we disregard framers, that means there is 1 scum and 1 town between them. I still think Ver is the more likely scum, unless someone can point me to Foolishness being a massive troll a scum.

Yeah, but Ver never posted again. People who don't post and don't vote generally get modkilled/replaced. I still think Ver's entrance was terrible and DP starts off as a scumspect, but pushing for a lynch on someone who is cruising for a modkill is beyond retarded.

[/quote]
He states : If nuke real we kill Foolishness, if not, we kill him tomorrow:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2013 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
/facepalm

Anyway, I don't know why we are speculating about the nuke being real. If it is, we kill Foolishness. If it isn't, we kill Foolishness tomorrow. In the meantime, we should kill someone else.

SS: for a confirmed townie who is hanging around to give us guidance, you are not guiding much. Do you agree with me that Cora is scum? If not, who should we kill today?



Still votes for Foolish when nukes are fake with no reasoning given, showing his previous reasons are complete bogus.

On March 14 2013 05:27 Acrofales wrote:
So... ok.

##vote Foolishness

Sloosh wasted a couple of hours, but comes out looking townier and Xfire also looking townier, so I'll call it a win.

[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I changed my mind. Supersoft made some decent sense and I listened to him. Unlike some people here, I am capable of listening to reason.

Anyway, how does ANY of this make you think I am scum?
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 14 2013 15:10 GMT
#2920
The above post is meh. It's not the third thing, the wanting to look townie, that gets me. It's the way he was concerned about looking townie.

He wanted to use his vig shot to look townie.
He wanted to use his nuke to look townie.
He doesn't seem to realize that he could use his UNLYNCHABILITY to look townie.

He wanted to use his role/actions to look townie, but not the giant, neon sign, HEY LOOK GUYS I'M TOWN part of his role.
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