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On March 04 2013 08:17 Vivax wrote:
Helvetica, Wade and you are obvious scum by now.

Scumgame of your life but I uncovered your nasty plans.

On February 27 2013 00:27 Vivax wrote:
Let's get down to business then. First of all I would like to give you my opinion about the mayoral election: I didn't give it much importance. One lynch, two votes, that's it. A townie looking guy gets elected, either a townie looking guy gets confirmed if he hits scum or townie looking scum rides the wave to a mislynch and can shake off responsibility for it.

My major interest laid in creating a nice atmosphere where we can have fun together and catch butterflies all day so that people who are scum actually feel safe to play like scum. What I've learned in past games is that people I read as scum got a valid reason to not answer questions when I actually read them as scum and called them like that.
"Oh what you call me scum you idiot fine I'll ignore you" fuck that shit.

To catch scum you have to let them feel cosy, when they think they didn't have the pressure to post for two days, then you will struck them with holy might knowing that they actually had the confidence to really play like lurky scum. When they don't know you will push for their lynch at deadline they will post more information, closer to their agenda than to the one made visible by townies.
Since town doesn't seem to want to adopt such an innovative strategy, let's move on with standard play.

Wish washy thoughts on flipped scum number one

Purely based on these early game interactions I've become wary of restraining order/marv given his early dead serious tone despite the comparatively low interest into the mayor candidates. He subtly shovelled shit at MS for that awesome post and fucked off ignoring most of the early opinions.
However, given his later contributions to the pardoner talk, dissuading town from following Toad's terrible plan, my read switched back to a more townie one, especially when he suggested that WoS should be elected, which I agree with. I am curious to see what else he will contribute.

ObviousOne first serious post was when he spat out his geript scumread that made me suspicious of him, I actually liked his answer, very townie cause bold along with his lighthearted early posts.

aquanim I have a slight scumread on, his early contributions consist of asking MS a pointless question and then saying there's a voting thread. He likes to pick on people like WoS and OO, who I have townreads on and are at best guilty of lighthearted and at worst clumsy play. Most of his filter looks much artificial, his answers to reads look forced. I advise you to analyse him properly and I will support a mayor willing to lynch him.

Layabout could be lurky scum. If he's town I'd like him to post more. I remember him being an aggressive pusher as town in fruity mafia.

JJ is a good lynch candidate. His attack on me for playing casually is a scum trait, and he quit pursuing me asking me a weird question about what I think. Well, after the last refresh (23:40 TL time) I see he's actually back to get me. Saying I didn't follow up after calling him scummy for what he did, too bad that I went to sleep around 3 AM and I'm spending 2:30 hours with reading and writing this post, so his argument is again scummy and not thought out.
The argument he's used didn't apply to me, but also to Toad and some other dudes. He seems to think people trying to guess smurf identities are scum, as pointed out in my earlier post.

And Wish Washy thoughts on flipped scum number two!

Last on in the chronology and hotly disputed in the thread: Prom. There's a lot to work on with him.
What bothers me about Prom is his unusual lack of confidence. He came dead serious into the thread with his RNG lynch idea, but didn't actually RNG anyone at that point, and even said he would lynch himself, which is a retarded thing to do when you know you're town. When people criticized him for his behaviour regarding the RNG, he quickly switched to a WoS lynch preference.
Then he votes VE, who wants to lynch him. Again, a point towards scumprom, who would probably not want to get lynched as town, it looks like a subtle buddying attempt.

Then again, it confuses me that he's been interacting in a way with VE that suggests that he would rethink his townread on me if just VE convinced him. That was after VE said he thinks I'm scum based on association with Prom (stupid reason).
Trying to see this from a scumprom perspective, this doesn't make sense to me. A scumprom would probably try to convince VE that there is an association and that he's null or town on me to frame me for later. Instead he expressed being content with changing his read on me if VE convinced him.

I am null on Prom given how he's been handling his reads of me.

Geript looked pretty scummy to me yesterday, but since he's a newbie that might just be a consequence of that. His attacks on me cause of me being casual made me pretty suspicious, and his blabber about an agenda linked to that as well, but I don't want to lynch a newbie this early, they can look scummy as either alignment.

In retrospect I'm not really able to get proper reads out for the early behaviour since it seems that scummy people seem to be scattered across the categories, but I thought I'd make an on-the-go-attempt to use that type of analysis.

On March 01 2013 08:59 Vivax wrote:
I shot Hassy I believe.

On March 08 2013 07:04 Aquanim wrote:

Your point? Surely he'd be more confident if this was a preplanned scum gambit?
Also do you think this setup is balanced without any town KP? (I have no opinion on this question at present, I am genuinely interested in your opinion.)

On March 08 2013 09:21 Vivax wrote:
I'm also hearing some noise in the background is that a voice? It sounds stupid.

On March 08 2013 09:24 grush57 wrote:

He has to be vig tho.

On March 08 2013 09:27 grush57 wrote:

JJ is scum yes?
Sandroba is acting different and being a jailor and sandroba = insta die

On March 08 2013 09:34 grush57 wrote:

who else would roleblock you?

On March 08 2013 09:31 Vivax wrote:


That was more or less a ragequit shot Toad wanted to concede, I agreed a bit later and I shot him telling Bugs to concede after 30 minutes. Ask Bugs if you don't believe it.

As said your version doesn't make sense cause I could simply claim roleblocks into infinity if I was scum and it would make much more sense than me shooting a scumbuddy. Take your tinfoil hat off, you might be good at this game most of the time but you don't make any sense right now.

Do something good this game and help me kill jcarl pls.

On February 28 2013 23:38 Vivax wrote:
I don't care if Toad wants me vigged, glurio is scum and should be taken care of one way or another.

This RO guy soft pushing me when the mood swings over is scummy as fuck as well.

On March 01 2013 00:03 Vivax wrote:


Milksuckler said you want me vigged. Dunno, didn't check.