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On February 26 2013 09:05 Wade Fell wrote: Make me the mayor. I'm a smurf, but I'll offer you a platform that should definitely convince you that your vote is best used to elect me. My platform: 1) Lynching MilkSuckler. Fuck that guy. 2) I will use my vote aggressively to push town agenda throughout the game. I am not afraid to write cases and lay down my vote. I am a serious person. Now before you flame me, let me turn you around with this question: do you believe milksuckler had that post prepared before the game started? of course he did. Everything about that screams "pre-prepared post" which is fine if he's town but he wrote that when he didn't know his alignment. He could quite easily be scum. Don't trust him. Lynch Milksuckler. ##vote Wade Fell I believe you are right in both your assumptions, that milksuckler had that post prepared and that he could be scum. I also believe every other player may also be scum. Does milksuckler having a prepared post make him more likely scum? How so? If not why does he stand out to you as to being the best lynch? Would you care to expand on that? I'm trying to decide between you trying to bring in some activity or trying to get into my invisible poster list. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote: I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad. Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible. Ah ok, apparently you can't read! You will notice I said the towniest player that will lynch your main suspect. That's alright though, but try to spend more time reading and less time posting and you will do better next time. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote: If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG. Isn't that retarded as both alignments? | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote: How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes? We could get 2 flies with one stone that way. Thoughts? That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:19 layabout wrote: lets kill wade for this: On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles. Although killing wade would certainly clear a bit of the thread of gratuitous obnoxiousness, I don't think his alignment is clear yet. You are certainly nitpicking part of his post and drawing your own biased conclusion about what he is saying. Are you sure you don't just want throw some suspicion on someone everyone already dislikes? | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:30 Promethelax wrote: Yes? But the idea of a random lynch is good. You should be able to see why. Assuming you don't suck, which I'm assuming. I trust any decent town player should be able to lynch scum day one when elected as mayor more than 20% of the time. Why would you give up the chance on making an informed decision on who to lynch, derive information about players who were pushing or defending said player is beyond me. RNG provides nothing besides a place to shy away from responsibility. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote: Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment. Care to explain why that makes him your top scum read? Your follow up sentence uses the same fail logic as Wade Fell's, which isn't something you should be to emulate. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote: 'pretty much how I feel right now. See you D2 everybody! Promethelax, how do you feel about this post? | ||
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I would also like you to take a look on The Macho Man, as he is my best guess for scum amongst the "active" posters. Again, I'll come back to expand on this as well. See you guys in a few hours. | ||
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On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote: Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now. I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy. Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting) Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then") conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx) I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch. This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense conclusion: probably scum, would lynch. I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can. Good luck town! Promethelax is likely scum. I made that post specifically to see how he would react (as you noticed I didn't provide any reasons). Mostly my concerns were that too many people were pushing for his lynch and there was no opposition to it. Also the main reasons for the suspicion on him was some sudden change of mind or some controversial behavior, and those are normally townie traits. Now onto his reaction to my post: as town he would never come to the conclusion that I'm scum in that spot. What would be my interest as scum in defending a player everybody else thinks is scum? For town cred? As you can all tell that very often has the opposite effect and town cred is overrated anyway. People had not even mentioned my name prior to this so I had no reason to risk my neck over this. If you know you are townie your first reaction in this situation certainly is to think the people that are defending you are town! Now as scum what would you do? First you have inherent guilt, you think you look bad, so it's plausible that the claim that the guy defending you must have extra information should fly. Secondly you want to divert attention from your lynch, so it's a terrific opportunity to throw suspicion on someone that is on the other side of the issue. People that want to lynch prome certainly won't like the defense one bit, and are more easily willing to jump on the person defending it. As you can see Promethelax post makes very little sense if taken form a townie perspective, but makes a lot of sense given a scum mentality. I'll refrain from expanding my thoughts on macho man from now as to not derail this lynch. | ||
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On February 27 2013 03:54 Restraining Order wrote: Why, oh why would you say this? So let me get this straight: You did something fishy and of debateable quality (defend a guy for no reason), and when he points out how nonsensical that is, and after it's clear the thread still wants Prome lynched, you decide to 180° your read and say "lol jokes I thought he was scum all along!" If you actually read what I wrote, you will notice that I had my doubts, which I explain why in detail, to whether prome was scum. And I didn't do anything fishy. I said I had reasons to believe he was town, and I would expand on it later. Yet you notice he attacked me before I ever even said what reasons those were. That demonstrates inherent guilt. Whether you think I scum or not should have little impact on the behavior prome has shown. Do you agree with my conclusion? | ||
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If you believe it is a null tell and I have reached the correct conclusion, by your own standards, what exactly is the problem here? Wouldn't you be better off taking in the information in regards to the reactions of many players, including the one set to be lynched, and ultimately have a better picture of the situation prior to the lynch so you could make a more informed decision and even after if we end up lynching him? If you believe it produced no meaningful content you can safely ignore it. It's funny how you accuse me of being anti-town when I'm trying to produce information by my own means, yet you both share my conclusion. Also how exactly my withholding information for some amount of time to observe the reactions to my post damages the town in any regard? I've said I'd share the concerns I had with prome's lynch and I did. As it stands right now I believe the best lynch is prome and I'd be foolish to try to persuade town that The Macho Man is a better lynch, if even I don't share that point of view. Yes I do have problems with TMM, but I'll discuss those when the time is appropriate. It's a common mistake by many players to say every single thought that comes to their minds, instead of keeping the focus on what needs to be done. Most of you so far seem to believe I'm some sort of idiot who ought to be dismissed. It's actually a barrier that I'm trying to overcome by making long quality over explanatory posts. I assure you I'm pretty good at this game, you would be surprised to know who you are dealing with. I assure you that if I had my name attached to my posts I would need to right a third as much and would have three times the influence. | ||
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On February 27 2013 09:49 Wade Fell wrote: JJ you're just so bad just share your thoughts. they're terrible but just share all of them god As opposed to you who are good? Tell me how is the offensive name calling helping? I don't believe there was enough time for you to read carefully my post before responding to it. Spend less time typing and more time reading, it will go a long way. | ||
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