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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 26 2013 02:06 GMT
#601
EBWOP: NMM 37.
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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 02:07 GMT
#602
On February 26 2013 11:01 ObviousOne wrote:
Aqua didn't like that I gave a gut read based on a hypothetical scenario when I didn't have anything better in mind. He's going to hold it against me forever and ever. The end.

Oh, and OO's martyring about it isn't changing my mind at all.


This? I expect something more from aqua.

Give it a day or so.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:07 GMT
#603
On February 26 2013 11:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
Let the records show the the voice of Prom has slowly gone from the soothing and alluring voice of the songstress to the shriek of countless banshee's. Cult worshipping is appearing to be at an all time high. A savior is needed to clear the shadows from our light.


Vote for me then. I'll lynch either Vivax or Prom. Can you say the same of your deity? Because if you can, I'd say you're a fucking liar.


Dammit VE.i want to vote you for mayor as I think you are town and having you as mayor would be a-okay with me but I like not dying at the hands of (probably) town. Doesn't help us.

Convince me Vivax is scum and I'll vote you.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 02:07 GMT
#604
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:07 GMT
#605
On February 26 2013 11:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
Let the records show the the voice of Prom has slowly gone from the soothing and alluring voice of the songstress to the shriek of countless banshee's. Cult worshipping is appearing to be at an all time high. A savior is needed to clear the shadows from our light.


Vote for me then. I'll lynch either Vivax or Prom. Can you say the same of your deity? Because if you can, I'd say you're a fucking liar.


Dammit VE.i want to vote you for mayor as I think you are town and having you as mayor would be a-okay with me but I like not dying at the hands of (probably) town. Doesn't help us.

Convince me Vivax is scum and I'll vote you.



Ebwop: not unvote you
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:08 GMT
#606
Need more time - though you'll notice that since he's been the subject of discussion he's been eerily absent, in spite of saying "no srsly though guys reading now"
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:08 GMT
#607
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#608
Martyring? LOL

That is a fairly inaccurate representation of what I'm doing here. You could have tunneled on me just as easily if I said "fucked if I know who is scum" and the only pressure I'm feeling right now is coming from my bowels care of this afternoon's tacos.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
VayeshMoru
Profile Joined September 2009
201 Posts
February 26 2013 02:09 GMT
#609
On February 26 2013 11:02 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:59 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:54 Aquanim wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:43 Promethelax wrote:
Talk to me about aqua.

On February 26 2013 10:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Need more dataz. So far I'm not interested in lynching him if that's what you're asking - his read on OO seems genuine (and in my opinion decent).

On February 26 2013 10:48 Promethelax wrote:
...
Are you being serious or sarcastic about aqua?

I'm not sure how VE's post could be construed as sarcastic... but in any case I get the feeling you have an opinion on me. Care to share it?


Well I'd like to hear something from you first. Who is scum and why?

My current strongest scum read is ObviousOne for the reasons stated earlier. His protestations of "I can't give reads early" combined with the reads he has in fact given with little-to-no reasoning feels like scum trying to contribute without actually committing himself. I don't have time to analyse everyone's play at the moment so that's all I have for now.


Vayesh is puzzled at the contradictions brought to bear before him. The voice of the man of water speaks of non committal when he himself fails to show commitment to the cause. The light is not finding its way into the ocean depths. Perhaps with more swimming the figure will come closer to illumination.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#610
On February 26 2013 11:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:03 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
......association.


... lol

Well why him over me? If we are associated wouldn't that go both ways?


It does. Him because he's being willfully useless to the game and you're at least trying to look town.


No I'm not. But whatevs brah.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#611
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#612
On February 26 2013 11:11 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:03 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
......association.


... lol

Well why him over me? If we are associated wouldn't that go both ways?


It does. Him because he's being willfully useless to the game and you're at least trying to look town.


No I'm not. But whatevs brah.


It was meant to imply that some of your posts look town....so like, whatevs brah. Argue with me about it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#613
For the record, does RNG ever take off.
Like....ever?
What discussion is supposed to take place regarding it?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#614
On February 26 2013 11:02 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:59 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:54 Aquanim wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:43 Promethelax wrote:
Talk to me about aqua.

On February 26 2013 10:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Need more dataz. So far I'm not interested in lynching him if that's what you're asking - his read on OO seems genuine (and in my opinion decent).

On February 26 2013 10:48 Promethelax wrote:
...
Are you being serious or sarcastic about aqua?

I'm not sure how VE's post could be construed as sarcastic... but in any case I get the feeling you have an opinion on me. Care to share it?


Well I'd like to hear something from you first. Who is scum and why?

My current strongest scum read is ObviousOne for the reasons stated earlier. His protestations of "I can't give reads early" combined with the reads he has in fact given with little-to-no reasoning feels like scum trying to contribute without actually committing himself. I don't have time to analyse everyone's play at the moment so that's all I have for now.


Again a post I like. I shall give you a one day reprieve as you asked.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 02:12 GMT
#615
I think Geript is a stupid newbie and OO is my best guess at scum (jcarlsoniv maybe). Day 1 crapshoot and all but why would you wait like 8 posts after your "read" (talking about how you don't have any reads/reasons in between it) then after there's pressure on you you finally have an explanation?

I'd hope to see people putting more effort into their accusations beyond "lol this guy is mafia". I'm not sure why he would throw in such a half assed "vote for me" post as mafia, but that's all WIFOM bullshit anyway.

On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.


Gerpit is the top scum read because he would make a bad lynch regardless if he's town or scum? That's not a reason, you're just calling him stupid more or less. Mafia like to jump on stupid townies don't they? OO has been immediately antagonistic to anyone disagreeing with him also. That's not really indicative of alignment but it certainly isn't protown. Convince me you aren't scum, don't bother trying to explain how Geript is a great scumread because it's not.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 02:15 GMT
#616
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.

Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol
RIP Aaliyah
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:15 GMT
#617
On February 26 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 02:18 GMT
#618
On February 26 2013 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.

Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol

....
Exactly.
Don't let me stop you.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 26 2013 02:27 GMT
#619
On February 26 2013 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.

Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol

A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway?
Case and point: a newbie.

I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.


WHAT SAY YOU GENTLEMEN
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 02:32 GMT
#620
Why would anyone who is town offer an RNG solution? You seriously pushed it then when everyone called it stupid you say it's just for discussion? Now that I'm reading filters I've changed my mind. Promethelax needs to be lynched.

1. "Oh, I only did it for discussion"

On February 26 2013 09:30 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:19 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,

You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear


If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG.

Isn't that retarded as both alignments?


Yes? But the idea of a random lynch is good. You should be able to see why. Assuming you don't suck, which I'm assuming.


GREAT DISCUSSION. If, like you claim, you wanted to create a discussion that would benefit the town and reveal peoples intentions you have failed miserably. You have contributed nothing to the discussion. A question was asked of you and you offer absolutely no insight into the point of the RNG, the intentions of your plan, the intention of anything, it's just worthless bloviating. This post is wet garbage.

If you want to create a discussion, push your point. That's what town does. Town explains his reasoning, pushes the rest of the town toward his goal. "Hey I'm gonna RNG" and "You're bad player if you don't support RNG" isn't a discussion. You don't have the right to blame the failure of your plan on the rest of the town when you put zero effort into convincing anybody that it was a good idea. Don't dare come out and say you don't really think RNG is a good idea and you only did it as part of some secret scumhunting trap plan because that's bullshit. Please tell me how you planned to find scum or do anything productive this way.

2. RNG isn't transparent. It can't be unless you post a youtube video of you entering everything in and announcing the results. There's no screenshot you can take that proves it was a real RNG.

Also this:

He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

This sounds like a vet scum in his team told him what to say, or a really bad fake scumhunting. The ideas which gerpit proposes weren't worth responding to. You didn't respond to them. You don't seem interested in it. You seem more interested in day plans and your own candidacy, how is that any better than pointing out the flawed reasoning in someones campaign? His point about the nightkills is directly related to gerpit's platform for mayor so your entire accusation is a complete wash.

On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote:
prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here:
On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote:
Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys.

On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Explain.

For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically...

On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.


He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality.

Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS.

are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it?
Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are


This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted.

because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset.


Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark.


Thanks for finally explaining that. Although that's a plan that only works if you withhold information from the town and again has absolutely nothing to do with any sort of discussion except for the one that the scum might be having in their private chat.

I don't understand your pressure on Aquanim either. You called him out for a weak accusation of ObviousOne and all of a sudden he's scummy (the best you had done up to that point is argue with VE and point a finger at WoS for bad reason). You ask him to tell you his scumread (which he had already stated and explained) and all he did was basically say the same thing he already said, but now it's townie? It's really unconfident and nothing about aquanims accusations against OO changed at all.

That's my best guess for right now. Feel free to convince me otherwise. Which mayor is going to lynch Promethelax again?
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