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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:33 GMT
#621
On February 26 2013 11:15 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.


I have no intention of fighting with you and if you want to scumhunt with me I'm perfectly willing to do so regardless of your alignment. If anything it should help me get a better read on you no? So why suggest that we scumhunt separately?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 02:34 GMT
#622
On February 26 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.

Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol

A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway?
Case and point: a newbie.

I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.


WHAT SAY YOU GENTLEMEN

actually i just misinterpreted what toades said which is that the town should swing the votes so that the leading lynch candidate is also elected pardoner, i.e. voting for a lynch as such to remove the role from the game entirely

not a bad idea but it would be too much of a pain in the ass to orchestrate and mafia shouldn't care enough about the role to put up a fight, certainly gives them a nice platform to throw rocks at anyone who isn't interested in the plan though for not being "pro-town" enough
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 02:35 GMT
#623
On February 26 2013 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:15 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.


I have no intention of fighting with you and if you want to scumhunt with me I'm perfectly willing to do so regardless of your alignment. If anything it should help me get a better read on you no? So why suggest that we scumhunt separately?

mafia's goal is to survive and nothing else really, when you're already guilty it's more difficult to push arguments against people you know are innocent, less confidence in it.

why argue with you and get lynched if you get elected when he can try to make you stop paying attention to him altogether
RIP Aaliyah
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:36 GMT
#624
I'm share the sentiment that it would be too much of a pain to try and fix the election to remove the pardoner. It just seems easier all around to just try and get town into both positions.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:38 GMT
#625
On February 26 2013 11:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:15 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.


I have no intention of fighting with you and if you want to scumhunt with me I'm perfectly willing to do so regardless of your alignment. If anything it should help me get a better read on you no? So why suggest that we scumhunt separately?

mafia's goal is to survive and nothing else really, when you're already guilty it's more difficult to push arguments against people you know are innocent, less confidence in it.

why argue with you and get lynched if you get elected when he can try to make you stop paying attention to him altogether




It's good to see you Doc.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 02:40 GMT
#626
you've been arguing all through the thread but ive yet to see you post more than 2-3 sentences in one post, why is that
RIP Aaliyah
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 02:40 GMT
#627
I'd be fine with getting Wave pardoner.
That post makes it unlikely he's mafia.
Don't let me stop you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:41 GMT
#628
Because I'm at work. Sorry.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 26 2013 02:42 GMT
#629
On February 26 2013 11:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm share the sentiment that it would be too much of a pain to try and fix the election to remove the pardoner. It just seems easier all around to just try and get town into both positions.

Hence my post. If you're worried about scum getting the position, put me in it instead, and if people are absolutely paranoid that I'm not town then worst case scenario it's a mislynch on a role that you don't want that badly anyway, and best case scenario, you don't lynch me and you have town in the position you want.
If you're commenting on the fact that it might be inherently more difficult to try and fix the runner up vote, then that's a different story, obviously.

I really like the Dr.'s posting so far, but I'd just like to keep in mind that I don't think we should start bandwagoning so early. I think it's been established by a few people already that Prom looks scummy; thus we know not to put him up for mayor. Are we now, like the good Doctor suggests, looking for a mayor to lynch him flat-out, or do we continue the scumhunt while keeping Prom in the back of our minds?
I lean towards the second option.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 26 2013 02:45 GMT
#630
On February 26 2013 10:25 Chezinu wrote:
Hello everyone.

Before we began, I think it is important for everyone to get to know one another. As an ice breaker, I would like everyone to state their name and post three things about themselves which may not be known to the others people here. Two are true and one is not.

I will start.

My name is Chezinu

I have read my role
I never played a newbie game
I am not The Scribe!



My name is Grush.
I am Starsenses.
I am town.
I am scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 26 2013 02:46 GMT
#631
Also so many posts so early, gj and i hate you all at the same time
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:48 GMT
#632
I really don't like that grush opening.

He's sending me mixed signals...he seems to be implying that he's just joined us and hasn't read the thread yet, but if that's the case how did he see Chez' post? And why is he responding to it before doing anything?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 26 2013 02:51 GMT
#633
On February 26 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.

Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol

A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway?
Case and point: a newbie.

I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.


WHAT SAY YOU GENTLEMEN


You either didn't think this plan through or are just trying to pull one over on everyone. If we give Pardoner to you (or anyone) we can't trust that they won't just save themselves if we decide to lynch them. The only real choices I see are killing the Pardoner D1 or giving it to a player we trust. Giving it to someone who we think will die might sound good, but voicing that sentiment means that they probably won't and not only will we be no closer to figuring out if that person is mafia, but it will take 2 days if we do decide to lynch them.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:53 GMT
#634
Jesus fuck, tablet just ate my post three times.

Hassy vanished. Scummy.
WoS super townie lets make him the pardoner.
VE probably town, mentality thing, bad read on me (still <3 him though)
Wade rubs me the wrong way, too eager to lynch mocsta for no reason. Weak attacks, calls me bad but doesn't add Nything to discussion. Feels like a justification for a later vote.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 26 2013 02:54 GMT
#635
On February 26 2013 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really don't like that grush opening.

He's sending me mixed signals...he seems to be implying that he's just joined us and hasn't read the thread yet, but if that's the case how did he see Chez' post? And why is he responding to it before doing anything?

Okay so here what happened.
I got back to my computer. I see my role. Hooray I'm town.
Reading reading reading....
Oh Chez made a cool post.
Make a new tab.
Reply to it.
Read rest of thread.
And now make this post!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 02:55 GMT
#636
On February 26 2013 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:15 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.


I have no intention of fighting with you and if you want to scumhunt with me I'm perfectly willing to do so regardless of your alignment. If anything it should help me get a better read on you no? So why suggest that we scumhunt separately?


I just meant both go out and hunt scum.

You k ow hassy at all? Would he vanish like that as town?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 26 2013 02:55 GMT
#637
On February 26 2013 09:40 randombum wrote:
Hello. Everybody should vote me for mayor, I'm 100% correct on my first impression scum-reads for the last 2 years. That's an amazing track record.

where did you go? ;"(
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 02:56 GMT
#638
In fact, all the worries about the pardoner being mafia can be silenced if we just give it to a townie.

So I'm going to vote WoS for now.
Don't let me stop you.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
February 26 2013 02:57 GMT
#639
Also, with regard to making WoS pardoner. If we have enough agreement in the vote to decide who is pardoner and place them 2nd, then we should just make it the person we want to kill. If we can't do that, we can't put a specific person there for a different reason, so there's nothing to discuss.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 26 2013 02:57 GMT
#640
On February 26 2013 11:55 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 11:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:15 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:11 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:08 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 11:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Hey Prom, I thought you said you wanted to run for mayor if town.

Musta rolled scum; unlucky br0


Hey I did run. No one liked my candidacy. But if you want to vote me I'd run again.

Ahh right, that lacklustre campaign completely flew under the radar for me and was overtaken dramatically by RNG. Interesting br0.


RNG was the plan I was talking to you about pre game.

VE I dont care to fight with you, I think you are likely town and fighting with you will lead to a shitty thread. Instead let us hunt scum separately. If you get elected and choose to lynch me just tell me before you make that choice so I can post my full list of reads and reasons so I can at least help town a little.

I'm off for a re read.


I have no intention of fighting with you and if you want to scumhunt with me I'm perfectly willing to do so regardless of your alignment. If anything it should help me get a better read on you no? So why suggest that we scumhunt separately?


I just meant both go out and hunt scum.

You k ow hassy at all? Would he vanish like that as town?


I've played with him a couple times but I have no grasp of his play. His disappearance means nothing to me aside from infuriating me by default because I loathe lurkers.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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