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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 02 2013 04:11 GMT
#1681
Stop sheeping me Acro :>

Thrawn who is scum?
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18278 Posts
March 02 2013 04:11 GMT
#1682
And yeah, Dieno. We still love you for your maps. Cutest scum ever!
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 02 2013 04:24 GMT
#1683
I'm still sad that we did not double lynch. I really think we should've ended the Syl saga right there and then. There is nothing in his filter that says town to me. Refuting a weak argument is not a town action.

This all just screams of a purposely weak bus in order to give Syl some free town cred and give him a blank slate. I think Thrawn has the right idea in still putting the pressure on Syl.

However, Dieno has bought you some time Syl. Here is your chance to prove that you deserve the town cred Dieno has given you. Come up with some strong reads and perhaps my read on you can change. The ball is in your court in deciding whether we want to get past this or if you're going to distract us and drag us down again.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 02 2013 04:26 GMT
#1684
Cora.

How is syl scum with Dieno?

That is the thing im struggling with.

It does not make sense to put them both up because there is no upside for scum other than 'town cred'. Which is never gonna happen, especially with a player as scummy as Syl.

That said, I would like to see reads from Sylencia.
No gg, No skill.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 02 2013 04:32 GMT
#1685
On March 02 2013 13:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora.

How is syl scum with Dieno?

That is the thing im struggling with.

It does not make sense to put them both up because there is no upside for scum other than 'town cred'. Which is never gonna happen, especially with a player as scummy as Syl.

That said, I would like to see reads from Sylencia.


Because we chose the Syl/Dieno lynch even before Kei's flip. It's quite possible that they had to choose one to take the fall and try to keep the other one alive. Syl would be the better choice to bus Dieno than the other way around because I was the main one attacking Syl and my standing within the town has been shaky.

If Syl is scummy too why in the world did you not lynch them both?

You guys are sitting here talking about how scummy Syl is when we just had his lynch on a silver platter and you guys said no. It's almost like you are all teasing me now...

Either say Syl is scum and lynch him or tell me he's town. Not wanting to lynch your scum reads is scummy in itself.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 02 2013 04:35 GMT
#1686
Yes he is scummy, but is he scum?

I dont think that scum wouldve felt that way. At all.

Think about it. If you were in the scumteam. You woud think of, hey lets put up our 2 scummier players and let the scummiest one initiate the duel. Hopefully they dont double lynch or still think that Syl is scummy after it.

Doesnt make sense right?

With probably half the scum team gone, association cases are valid.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 02 2013 04:36 GMT
#1687
I know it's night and you're not supposed to talk about town reads at night, but idc. Think of this game like there are no night cycles, and mafia has dayvigs.

Town

adam, Acro, Aldeeran, Corazon, yamato, Oats

WTF

Hapa, Snarfs

Mafia

zare, syl

For all of you asking why syl could be mafia..... well why not? The entire thread was screaming for them to duel each other, do you really think that two scum won't duel each other if you yell at them enough? And Syl's play has definitely not improved during the duel. In fact dieno probably put more of an effort in once the duel started. Syl still doesn't have reads.... etc. Just read any page of Cora's filter and you will get a good idea of why lynching syl is stilla good idea.

Hapa is who I'm gonna look at next. He half assed his choice between syl/dieno. He did say he would lynch dieno if it was just one, but that he wanted to wait and see what dino/syl produced. But no, hapa has not been in here judging either of their play. After taking the most neutral stance possible, he afk'd from the rest of D2.

so yeah... as I'm writing this, hapa probably belongs in the mafia group. need to go through his filter first.

Snarfs.... I know almost nothing about his filter off the top of my head, but I remember having a town read on him last time I bothered to go through his stuff.

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 02 2013 04:37 GMT
#1688
On March 02 2013 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes he is scummy, but is he scum?

I dont think that scum wouldve felt that way. At all.

Think about it. If you were in the scumteam. You woud think of, hey lets put up our 2 scummier players and let the scummiest one initiate the duel. Hopefully they dont double lynch or still think that Syl is scummy after it.

Doesnt make sense right?

With probably half the scum team gone, association cases are valid.


Don't call it scummy, call it bad town then.

If you want to resort to association cases, are you going to come out and say I'm scum?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 02 2013 04:38 GMT
#1689
On March 02 2013 13:36 thrawn2112 wrote:

Mafia

zare, syl

For all of you asking why syl could be mafia..... well why not? The entire thread was screaming for them to duel each other, do you really think that two scum won't duel each other if you yell at them enough? And Syl's play has definitely not improved during the duel. In fact dieno probably put more of an effort in once the duel started. Syl still doesn't have reads.... etc. Just read any page of Cora's filter and you will get a good idea of why lynching syl is stilla good idea.



THRAWN I LOVE YOU
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18278 Posts
March 02 2013 04:39 GMT
#1690
On March 02 2013 13:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yes he is scummy, but is he scum?

I dont think that scum wouldve felt that way. At all.

Think about it. If you were in the scumteam. You woud think of, hey lets put up our 2 scummier players and let the scummiest one initiate the duel. Hopefully they dont double lynch or still think that Syl is scummy after it.

Doesnt make sense right?

With probably half the scum team gone, association cases are valid.

Unless Yamato is scum and that batshit insane duel at dawn stunt was his way of trying to swing the duel away from them. But that's pretty wild speculation. I'm going with Syl lurky town for now.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 02 2013 04:43 GMT
#1691
I'm exceptionally hung over right now, in fact my bones feel like they're on fire.

That flip eases the pain, ever so slightly.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 02 2013 04:43 GMT
#1692
On March 02 2013 13:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
I know it's night and you're not supposed to talk about town reads at night, but idc. Think of this game like there are no night cycles, and mafia has dayvigs.

Town

adam, Acro, Aldeeran, Corazon, yamato, Oats

WTF

Hapa, Snarfs

Mafia

zare, syl

For all of you asking why syl could be mafia..... well why not? The entire thread was screaming for them to duel each other, do you really think that two scum won't duel each other if you yell at them enough? And Syl's play has definitely not improved during the duel. In fact dieno probably put more of an effort in once the duel started. Syl still doesn't have reads.... etc. Just read any page of Cora's filter and you will get a good idea of why lynching syl is stilla good idea.

Hapa is who I'm gonna look at next. He half assed his choice between syl/dieno. He did say he would lynch dieno if it was just one, but that he wanted to wait and see what dino/syl produced. But no, hapa has not been in here judging either of their play. After taking the most neutral stance possible, he afk'd from the rest of D2.

so yeah... as I'm writing this, hapa probably belongs in the mafia group. need to go through his filter first.

Snarfs.... I know almost nothing about his filter off the top of my head, but I remember having a town read on him last time I bothered to go through his stuff.


Thrawn, why the fuck is Zare big and red and there is more mention of Hapa, a null read than him.
In fact there is no mention of Zare at all here.
Why?
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18278 Posts
March 02 2013 04:45 GMT
#1693
Fixing that for you, thrawn:

Town

adam, Thrawn, Aldeeran, Oats, Corazon, Syl

WTF

Hapa, Snarfs, yamato

Mafia

zare


Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 02 2013 04:47 GMT
#1694
On March 02 2013 13:45 Acrofales wrote:
Fixing that for you, thrawn:

Town

adam, Thrawn, Aldeeran, Oats, Corazon, Syl

WTF

Hapa, Snarfs, yamato

Mafia

zare




God I can't believe you're letting Dieno fool you...
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 02 2013 04:48 GMT
#1695
settle down oats

zare was in big red because he's scum, k? i don't need to write an essay to show how zare's d2 is probably the scummiest part of the thread.

but more importantly oats, why so srs?

@Oats: what're your reads on me, hapa, and zare?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 02 2013 04:48 GMT
#1696
Ok Cora, lets say you are the 3rd scum member.

What is the upside of this plan?
It doesnt make syl look better with the way he played, it doesnt make you better(possibly), and a scum would definetly get lynched. There is no upside.
No gg, No skill.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 02 2013 04:49 GMT
#1697
On March 02 2013 13:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok Cora, lets say you are the 3rd scum member.

What is the upside of this plan?
It doesnt make syl look better with the way he played, it doesnt make you better(possibly), and a scum would definetly get lynched. There is no upside.


So you believe Syl and I have the same alignment?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 02 2013 04:52 GMT
#1698
No I dont have a conclusion as to whether you two are the same alignment or not.

Answer the fucking question Cora.

Thrawn, I am leaning town on you, scum on hapa because hapa disappeared. Again.
Zare is scummy for me from what I can remember, gonna filter people after the nightkill.

My problem with that list post is that you mentioned all the people who werent town, except Zarepath even though he is your top scumread.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 02 2013 04:53 GMT
#1699
Calling syl town becuase of dieno's flip is ridiculous. Imo all I think d2's lynch should do is buy syl some more time. Has his play improved since we put him up for lynch and asked him to show us he's town? No..... not at all. Other than the dieno flip, someone show me 1 townie thing about syl.

All that said I don't want to focus on him tomorrow. I'd much rather see zare or hapa on the stand. Either one of them + syl would make me a happy boy.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18278 Posts
March 02 2013 04:54 GMT
#1700
The way that scenario would have played out if they were both scum:

Syl: meh, my top scumread is Cora, I'd rather duel him.
Dieno: meh, my top scumread is Oats, I'd rather duel him.
Long time of nothing, until one of them duels their top scumread, or Yamato gets triggerhappy and duels me.

Instead, Dieno jumped in fairly early in the 24 hours to duel Syl. He clearly thought this had some point. I don't see that point being to bus his buddy.
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