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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 01:28 GMT
#1521
as long as nobody hammers early, there's no real reason not to vote. so I say we should be voting even if we're in favor of the double lynch. it's easy to unvote, but not so easy to figure out who's scum if we're letting everyone passively agree to double-lynch
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 01:32 GMT
#1522
On March 01 2013 10:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:18 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
actually fuck it, i think worrying about if we want to double lynch this early on is completely counter productive.

##Vote: Dienosaur


Why is it counter-productive? I think it encourages the two people we need to talk the most (Syl and Dieno) to talk more.


i'm worried that most people are going to go for this double lynch thing and not commit to picking either side. Do you really think that it's most likely that both of them are scum? If you think there's even a small chance of them having different alignments then it's beneficial to know which one the thread wants to lynch. it's much easier for scum to justify a vote later on in the cycle as opposed to right now.

and if you're worried about dieno and syl not feeling pressured if we don't immediately go for double lynch.... don't worry about it. i'm sure they know exactly what position they're in.

Both scum should not be ruled out entirely. They were under significant pressure to duel each other and they know that this way they *might* have an opportunity for one of them to clear his name. It's a risk, but they were almost certainly both going to end up on the chopping block anyway (one today, other tomorrow). This way it can maybe work in their favour.

Anyway, I'll assess them individually, rather than as an either/or pair. It's not the same situation as Adam/Keir, where Adam could have picked virtually anybody to duel.

Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
March 01 2013 01:36 GMT
#1523
@hapa: Im gonna eat dinner, then I'll get back to you
@acro: Yeah
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 01:37 GMT
#1524
don't get me wrong.... I am 100% in favor of killing both of them.

I don't need to really wait for everyone's posts to come in before I know that the thread probably wants to kill both of them. There's nothing to be gained by stating the obvious. So I think picking 1 to die, and 1 to live is worth talking about.

after we decide which of them is scummier we can start the circle lynch double jerk
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 01:38 GMT
#1525
EBWOP double lynch circle jerk
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
March 01 2013 01:42 GMT
#1526
lol @ the circle lynch double jerk
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 01:43 GMT
#1527
So when did Sylencia become your top scum read? The first time you even mention Sylencia is this cycle... when you were asked to duel him.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
March 01 2013 01:49 GMT
#1528
I was suspicious ever since his first post asking blues to come out. He wasn't in my top scumreads until I saw how he kind of fumbled around after the first duel. Now after digging into his filter and actually writing down my case, I'm pretty convinced.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
March 01 2013 01:50 GMT
#1529
K im actually leaving now to eat Ill be back in an hour or so
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 01:50 GMT
#1530
dieno now we need your full reads on everyone else in the game. maps would be a nice bonus too
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 02:00 GMT
#1531
Thrawn: what do you hope to accomplish by telling him what to do?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#1532
it raises my post count
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#1533
Well, stop giving him recipes to appear townie. He can figure it out for himself. Ask him questions about things you're unclear on. But telling him what to do is stupid.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#1534
K, given Dieno's case some consideration and I actually like it. I had dismissed that whole Cora/Syl spat, but that post about blues IS weird.

Diving back into Sylencia's filter again.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 02:14 GMT
#1535
I'm calling bullshit on dieno's stance on syl. Look the post dieno quoted to justify the duel:

On March 01 2013 09:07 Dienosore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 07:55 Sylencia wrote:
my wanting to duel him has increased


This town obviously isn't big enough for both of us, Sylencia.

##Duel: Sylencia


Here's where that quote came from:

On March 01 2013 07:55 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 00:48 Alderan wrote:

@Syl, so under no circumstance would you initiate a duel with Dieno?


I would much prefer it with Corazon, but I'm not going to put a random duel out there if everyone doesn't agree on it.

If Deino remained missing without an explanation until now I would've considered him a lot more but he's here now, and my wanting to duel him has increased since he's made this gem of a statement:

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 02:29 Dienosore wrote:
As for me dueling Syl, I would totally be OK with that. He has looked scummy to me for a while now.


No explanation, this is the first time he's ever mentioned me in a post, and he gives no reinforcement to his claim. At least everyone else has done something to show that I am potentially scummy but Dieno just sheeps onto that thought and is now riding it.



What.... that post from syl is actually pretty good imo. Dienosaur completely took that quote out of context in order to justify his duel. Syl is not saying he wants to duel deino, he'd rather lynch Cor.

The whole premise of this duel is stupid, it's very obvious that dieno is more concerned about keeing up appearances rather than lynching his top scumread.

I am now against double lynch, here's why.

-Two people get pressured to duel each other, because they are the scummiest in the thread.

-Syl is hesitant to duel, and would rather duel his top scumread, Corozon

-Dieno is eager to duel, on the basis that syl is warming up to the idea of dueling dieno

Dieno's read on syl comes from nowhere. He's just doing this because we told him to, not because he cares about lynching scum when means we should lynch him.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#1536
On March 01 2013 11:08 Acrofales wrote:
K, given Dieno's case some consideration and I actually like it. I had dismissed that whole Cora/Syl spat, but that post about blues IS weird.

Diving back into Sylencia's filter again.


dienosore completely misrepresented what syl was saying. dieno was saying that syl was looking for blues to claim or something, right? syl was referring to blues not being scared to enter duels:

Because of your piss poor attitude when things don't go exactly the way you want it to.

Anyways, I odn't see anything that's particularly out of the ordinary about the policy that Hapa is suggesting. I think even as a blue role it might be better to just put yourself out there and have a good defense. Reluctance makes you suspicious in town eyes, as well as suspicious on the mafia side.


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#1537
On March 01 2013 11:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:08 Acrofales wrote:
K, given Dieno's case some consideration and I actually like it. I had dismissed that whole Cora/Syl spat, but that post about blues IS weird.

Diving back into Sylencia's filter again.


dienosore completely misrepresented what syl was saying. dieno was saying that syl was looking for blues to claim or something, right? syl was referring to blues not being scared to enter duels:

Show nested quote +
Because of your piss poor attitude when things don't go exactly the way you want it to.

Anyways, I odn't see anything that's particularly out of the ordinary about the policy that Hapa is suggesting. I think even as a blue role it might be better to just put yourself out there and have a good defense. Reluctance makes you suspicious in town eyes, as well as suspicious on the mafia side.



Yeah, you're right. Never mind then.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#1538
Anyway, I have a ferocious headache. I'm going to bed.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18136 Posts
March 01 2013 02:32 GMT
#1539
Before I go to bed, there's one thing that I thought of for the redacting of the scum wincon: there might be two scumteams. Just a theory for now, but it's one of the few reasons I can think of for redacting the wincon.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#1540
was the redaction something that got edited in after the fact? i'm pretty sure it was. i'm also pretty sure that I read the pm when it was initially posted... and I don't remember being thrown off by anything when I first read it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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