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On February 28 2013 01:21 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 01:19 Acrofales wrote:On February 28 2013 01:10 zarepath wrote:On February 28 2013 00:59 Acrofales wrote:On February 28 2013 00:53 zarepath wrote:On February 28 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait, Cora so what do you think about Adam saying that he would do it again?
Do you think that scum would EVER say that??? He has stated, in no uncertain terms, that he KNOWS it was horribly anti-town. Why would a townie EVER say that? I can't find that statement anywhere... I found a statement where he suggests people will give him a hard time post-game. Which means he knows he did something wrong, doesn't it? Now what did he do wrong? Well, that's in the post he quotes (quoted by me, and I quoted it from CT):
I find scum rarely do this, as they would rather just pounce on the person without actually giving them a chance to explain their behaviour, just in case the person has a reason for what they're doing, then the scum has to go find someone else to fabricate a case on. This is fake-able as scum, yes, but giving people a chance to explain themselves makes your job much harder.
This means he knows it was wrong. AKA anti-town. And yet, he is unrepentant and warns that he will do it again. So Acrofales you believe Keirathi is town then?
If I thought that why the fuck would I want to double-lynch?!
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On February 28 2013 01:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 01:10 zarepath wrote:On February 28 2013 00:59 Acrofales wrote:On February 28 2013 00:53 zarepath wrote:On February 28 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait, Cora so what do you think about Adam saying that he would do it again?
Do you think that scum would EVER say that??? He has stated, in no uncertain terms, that he KNOWS it was horribly anti-town. Why would a townie EVER say that? I can't find that statement anywhere... I found a statement where he suggests people will give him a hard time post-game. Which means he knows he did something wrong, doesn't it? Now what did he do wrong? Well, that's in the post he quotes (quoted by me, and I quoted it from CT): Show nested quote +
I find scum rarely do this, as they would rather just pounce on the person without actually giving them a chance to explain their behaviour, just in case the person has a reason for what they're doing, then the scum has to go find someone else to fabricate a case on. This is fake-able as scum, yes, but giving people a chance to explain themselves makes your job much harder.
This means he knows it was wrong. AKA anti-town. And yet, he is unrepentant and warns that he will do it again.
That quote doesn't actually fully apply to this game. He didn't lynch Keirathi; he put Keirathi UP for lynch. Keirathi still has plenty of time to defend himself.
A far scummier response would have been just what I posted. A townie who realizes he may have made a bad decision, thanks to everyone yelling at him that he made a bad decision, would read your quote and be like "Yeah, that looks kind of bad. Crap."
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double lynch
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Acro, you ARE INSANE. Why do you believe both to be scum??? One of them DUELED the other when somebody else was already WILLING to. Why in the world would scum duel each other day 1?
Double-lynching when one of the people dueled the other of his own volition is idiotic in this game. Anyone who is either not voting or is voting specifically for a double-lynch need to realize that they are relying completely on mafia being utterly retarded and not playing to their win condition in any way.
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Acro, is your only reasoning that Adam is a 3rd party cause he said that he would just duel when he feels like it?
Or do you have another reason.
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HOLY CRAP that was the scummiest unvote in the world
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Thrawn you wanted to DUEL Keirathi... why do you think that they are now BOTH scum??? That is literally the most unlikely scenario of all, and even before the duel, their interactions did NOT lead me to believe that they are conspiring together.
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Thrawn, what is your justification for wanting to double-lynch when they are definitely not both scum, and you clearly think one is more likely to be scum than the other?
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i like to lynch while i lynch
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On February 28 2013 01:38 zarepath wrote:
Acro, you ARE INSANE. Why do you believe both to be scum??? One of them DUELED the other when somebody else was already WILLING to. Why in the world would scum duel each other day 1?
Double-lynching when one of the people dueled the other of his own volition is idiotic in this game. Anyone who is either not voting or is voting specifically for a double-lynch need to realize that they are relying completely on mafia being utterly retarded and not playing to their win condition in any way.
Oh, dafuq. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehension
Adam is an evil 3P who cares jack shit about the wellbeing of this town
Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die
Both must die. I will duel the next person who asks for my reads on adam and keir, because I hereby declare a policy lynch on people not reading the thread.
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On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 01:38 zarepath wrote:
Acro, you ARE INSANE. Why do you believe both to be scum??? One of them DUELED the other when somebody else was already WILLING to. Why in the world would scum duel each other day 1?
Double-lynching when one of the people dueled the other of his own volition is idiotic in this game. Anyone who is either not voting or is voting specifically for a double-lynch need to realize that they are relying completely on mafia being utterly retarded and not playing to their win condition in any way.
Oh, dafuq. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehensionAdam is an evil 3P who cares jack shit about the wellbeing of this town
Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die Both must die. I will duel the next person who asks for my reads on adam and keir, because I hereby declare a policy lynch on people not reading the thread.
This post has the iamperfection seal of approval.
stop being scared little girls and lets put some heads on stakes.
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Adam MAY be an evil 3P, and that's based on speculation. I'm not entirely against mentioning the possibility, but potentially mislynching two townies Day 1, the day we have the least amount of information, BASED on the possibility of a third party when the OP doesn't even mention any specific third party roles, is idiotic.
Do you know what's even more idiotic? Complaining about how awful Adam's early duel was, how much info/work it lost for town, etc., and then declaring a policy duel against anybody who asks you for your reads. That makes you just as anti-town as Adam if you were to fulfill that -- that would be two days in a row that town is robbed of deciding, together, who needs to be up for lynch. You think town can survive that? That's a HORRIBLE policy, and it's honestly just as bad as your horrible double-lynch.
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On February 28 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Acro, is your only reasoning that Adam is a 3rd party cause he said that he would just duel when he feels like it?
Or do you have another reason.
If you're bluefishing, you missed.
My reasons are quite clear. His playstyle makes no sense as either alignment. He must therefore be neither. Him saying he'd duel whenever he felt like it is anti-town because he KNOWS it is anti-town yet is saying so anyway. If he had some strange argument for why it was not anti-town at all in his mind and he thought he had done nothing wrong, then /shrug. However, he clearly doesn't feel that way. He has admitted that he did something wrong, yet will do it again, with no remorse
A smaller tell that falls into place is how he was all okay with thrawn dueling Keirathi, but before that could happen, jumped in and dueled himself. Sure, it fits with his earlier statement, but Adam knows town wants discussion time. However, if he wants to be the one to duel, he must do it before anybody else does.[/b] He just got itchy fingers and blew his load, because he was afraid that with both thrawn and Keir active, the duel could happen at any moment there.
It's not even that he was going to bed and wanted to ensure the lynch: he was around for many hours afterwards.
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If there were scum in this lineup, don't you think they would fight against double-lynch and help town consolidate on the non-scum?
Instead we have an incredibly easy double-lynch about to occur that mafia must be super happy about, because they're not helping us to consolidate on anyone specific at all. That suggests that a double-lynch could EASILY be a double mislynch, exactly what scum want.
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Yeah ok your only reason is that he would do it again.
What if I told you that maybe he was joking, that he didnt mean it?
Do you know how suspicious that looks? He couldve just acted all apologetic but no, he didnt. What does this mean? That he is a stupid townie probably.
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On February 28 2013 01:49 zarepath wrote:
Adam MAY be an evil 3P, and that's based on speculation. I'm not entirely against mentioning the possibility, but potentially mislynching two townies Day 1, the day we have the least amount of information, BASED on the possibility of a third party when the OP doesn't even mention any specific third party roles, is idiotic.
Do you know what's even more idiotic? Complaining about how awful Adam's early duel was, how much info/work it lost for town, etc., and then declaring a policy duel against anybody who asks you for your reads. That makes you just as anti-town as Adam if you were to fulfill that -- that would be two days in a row that town is robbed of deciding, together, who needs to be up for lynch. You think town can survive that? That's a HORRIBLE policy, and it's honestly just as bad as your horrible double-lynch.
Nowhere do I say I will duel them the second I can.
Anyway, you know how townies can avoid getting policy lynched? By doing what townies should do and reading the thread. You realize that not reading the thread is a sign you are not trying to figure the game out? Guess who isn't trying to figure the game out? Yeah, that's right! Scum
I had said about 5 times that I thought Adam was 3P, yet you didn't read it. Are you sure you're town?
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On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote:Oh, dafuq. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehensionAdam is an evil 3P who cares jack shit about the wellbeing of this town
Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die Both must die. I will duel the next person who asks for my reads on adam and keir, because I hereby declare a policy lynch on people not reading the thread.
Acro, if adam is an evil 3P who doesnt care about town, why did he duel scum and not scummy looking town? Its not like he didnt have plenty of options
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On February 28 2013 01:51 Acrofales wrote:
His playstyle makes no sense as either alignment.
People don't play with labels on their heads reading "SCUM" or "TOWN," and they do not always play optimally or ideally, especially in weird formats like this one. I don't think you can declare someone 3P just because they don't play exactly according to your definition of what an ideal town or scum would do.
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