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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
On February 28 2013 01:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Iamp, why is adam a 3p? I see know way kier can be town and acro is completely right about adams actions. They where so stupid and adam knows it the 3p argument makes a lot of sense. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On February 28 2013 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah ok your only reason is that he would do it again. What if I told you that maybe he was joking, that he didnt mean it? Do you know how suspicious that looks? He couldve just acted all apologetic but no, he didnt. What does this mean? That he is a stupid townie probably. Haha, look, I'm laughing: On February 27 2013 12:29 Adam4167 wrote: Because I don't have faith in the 'lets force two other people to duel' policy. Are we really going to go through all this again? But more importantly, if that's what you think, why are you double-lynching? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 28 2013 01:55 Acrofales wrote: I had said about 5 times that I thought Adam was 3P, yet you didn't read it. Are you sure you're town? I didn't seriously think that you were willing to lynch based on that possibility. And if I don't seem super town to you, perhaps I'm a 4P... | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
On February 28 2013 01:58 zarepath wrote: People don't play with labels on their heads reading "SCUM" or "TOWN," and they do not always play optimally or ideally, especially in weird formats like this one. I don't think you can declare someone 3P just because they don't play exactly according to your definition of what an ideal town or scum would do. adam isnt stupid he can make a lot of sense when he wants to. 3p fits his actions a lot. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 28 2013 01:55 Acrofales wrote: Nowhere do I say I will duel them the second I can. Anyway, you know how townies can avoid getting policy lynched? By doing what townies should do and reading the thread. You realize that not reading the thread is a sign you are not trying to figure the game out? Guess who isn't trying to figure the game out? Yeah, that's right! Scum I had said about 5 times that I thought Adam was 3P, yet you didn't read it. Are you sure you're town? Stop fucking theory crafting about some bull shit 3rd party at the expense of the town. Thrawn that was absolutely the scummiest thing that has been posted in this game. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
his desire to duel seems to have some sort of win-con type motivation. it's not like he and keir were really going at each other at the time. keir was not pushing adam veyy hard. adam volunteered to duel keir in my place... way before enough people had commented on the original idea of thrawn vs keir if you look at the circumstances, the motivation for a townie to do what he did doesn't seem to be there. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
How stupid of adam is that to post if he was not town. Utterly pointless. As town, he is pissed off at the way his duel has been basically said as bad. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Thrawn, you've called Keirathi scummy, Adam scummy, and suddenly you agree with this 3P theory that you haven't commented at all on previously, just conveniently in time to prevent a Keirathi single lynch and in time to clinch a double-lynch. This looks really bad for you, and I cannot see the town motivation for double lynching on a day when town didn't even get to pick who went up for lynch and there is virtually no possibility that they are both scum. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 28 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote: if we kill adam too, nobody will dare to shoot early from now on Policy is a horrible reason to potentially mislynch twice on Day 1 | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 28 2013 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote: his desire to duel seems to have some sort of win-con type motivation. Sorry to clutter the thread, but I keep finding things like this. EVERY action from ANY player has some sort of win-con type motivation -- everyone is trying to win. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On February 28 2013 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Acro, if adam is an evil 3P who doesnt care about town, why did he duel scum and not scummy looking town? Its not like he didnt have plenty of options Scumslip? How do you know Keir is scum and not scummy looking town? Anyway, here are some reasons to want to aim at scum: 1. 3P doesn't know who is town and who is scum. Lynching someone who looks like scum covers them either way. The duel has to be believable not completely backfire and get the dueler lynched. 2. 3P survivor types just want the game to end asap (best chance of surviving). Extra wincons may require them to delay the end of the game, but lets not speculate too much about that, and just assume). There are two ways ending the game asap: landslide scum victory and landslide town victory. Most survivors are like observers: rooting for town until town derps so much that they are unsympathetic. So why NOT duel your scumread? 3. SURVIVOR. SURVIVOR. SURVIVOR. He cannot afford to be lynched himself (nor shot at night, but in this case lynch is clearly the biggest threat). Guess what gets Adam lynched? Prematurely dueling the crap out of a townie. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
First things first, I'm very comfortable with my vote on Kei right now. He keeps promising he'll return, and never returns. It doesn't look like he cares much about the town, and hanging him is the best option. Secondly, don't fucking double-lynch. Acro is pushing the idea that Adam is a 3rd party, and I have NO CLUE how that makes sense. Firstly, we don't even know if there's a 3rd party in this game. Secondly, 3rd party mechanics put a heavy emphasis on survival (Serial Killer, Survivor, etc), and Adam's actions do not show a survival instinct at all. Unless Adam's win-con literally is "If you win a duel, you win the game" - his actions only make sense from a town perspective. I've already stated why several times (too attention-whorey, looks like an emotional response, etc), and I'm not willing to put all my eggs in the 3rd party basket. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On February 28 2013 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote: ##Vote: Keirathi. How stupid of adam is that to post if he was not town. Utterly pointless. As town, he is pissed off at the way his duel has been basically said as bad. Answer please :D On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote: [/center][/big]Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die scumslip. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
-we're in a closed 15 player setup. it's a little expected that there might be a third party. i've personally seen people lynch 3p reads and they flip 3p -you can't be too certain that keir is scum. if keir flips town, the thread will probably waste time on adam until he eventually gets lynched at some point later on -this is an excellent example of a time when you actually need to policy lynch just to keep games playable. imagine if this happens again? every day? you've been bitching about how shitty the lynch is, so here is you chance to put a stop to it | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Duel 1 Vote Count Adam4167 (4): yamato77, Sylencia, cDgCorazon, Dienosore Keirathi (5): Oatsmaster, Alderan, zarepath, Hapahauli, Snarfs 7 votes needed to lynch. If a majority is not reached by 07:40 GMT (+00:00), both duelists will die. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9644 Posts
On February 28 2013 02:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually thrawn you too, why did Adam basically claim 3P as Acro said instead of playing more like what a townie looks like? Your asking impossible questions. | ||
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