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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 08:20 GMT
#681
Huh ok,
interesting.
Do you play with Keirathi often?

I never played with him before, but it seems to me like he didnt react to any of the pressure on him at all, maybe if he didnt acknowledge it, it would go away?
Odd play for a townie.


No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:22 GMT
#682
Despite my reads on the two of you before this, I will say that this was a truly horrid decision.

Going to have to sit on this for a while.
Writer@WriterYamato
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 26 2013 08:29 GMT
#683
On February 26 2013 17:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Huh ok,
interesting.
Do you play with Keirathi often?

I never played with him before, but it seems to me like he didnt react to any of the pressure on him at all, maybe if he didnt acknowledge it, it would go away?
Odd play for a townie.





Well, he was in Chrono, so you have played with him before.

I've played with him twice previously and I found him easily identifiable as town in both games.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 26 2013 08:31 GMT
#684
On February 26 2013 17:22 yamato77 wrote:
Despite my reads on the two of you before this, I will say that this was a truly horrid decision.

Going to have to sit on this for a while.


How was this horrible?

I think hes scum, he's suspicious of me (but not directly calling me scum).

Half the town thinks hes scum, half the town has me null or worse.

It should provide a wealth of information, if not a scum death.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:34 GMT
#685
What I fail to see the town motivation in here is Adam wanting to cut off all discussion about the read in general. Keir's last point he made was actually a salient one, that Adam professing his own towniness over his actions is a scummy thing to do. I really don't want to lynch him now that I understand his thought process about this read, because while I initially disagreed, it seems more likely now that this might be the case.

I don't think a town Adam has as little forethought as to make a decision like this one and duel someone on a whim. While I proclaimed that I would duel my scum reads, I never intended to do so unless I felt like it was necessary to secure a lynch, which is not how I think the situation was playing out today, lest I would have done so myself. This action is quite anti-town.

However, it does make a lot of sense if Adam is mafia, because this has pro-mafia written all over it. Over-aggressive, OMGUS, and discussion haltering in nature. Also, while he's putting himself on the line, he's doing so IN LINE WITH THREAD SENTIMENT, which was that Keirathi was mafia, and Adam was the town. Just like in Nomination, mafia are wont to do things that seem risky and townie, so long as the real risk is low.

The only reason I honestly thought Adam was town before this was because his mafia reputation is super easy to catch and lurky as fuck. I don't know how to read him now, but I think he's a better lynch than Keir, simply for the act of dueling him right now. If he's town, it was a colossally stupid thing to do, and it doesn't make me any more convinced that Keir is mafia, nor has he done a whole lot of in-depth analysis to prove this point.

##Vote: Adam
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 08:36 GMT
#686
oh yeah he claimed low point thing or whatever. Still didnt get lynched.

I would like to say what hapa has to say about keir this game actually..

Yamato, what is your problem with Adam's decision?
No gg, No skill.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 26 2013 08:40 GMT
#687
When I put your last post alongside this quote... something doesnt add up.

On February 26 2013 15:59 yamato77 wrote:
Hey Keir, wanna take up your beef with Adam's stance with me?

I'm pretty sure that guy's town, and it had nothing to do with agreeing with me. Your attack in him does seem to hinge on that point, that somehow his bravado is scum motivated, which would imply that mine was too, because I did it first as you pointed out.

Honestly, I want to see Keir hang. Someone make it happen. Sylencia is another one I could live without right now. My null reads from earlier have returned to the thread and done fuck all to make me think they're townie. Time's a wastin'
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:41 GMT
#688
On February 26 2013 17:31 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:22 yamato77 wrote:
Despite my reads on the two of you before this, I will say that this was a truly horrid decision.

Going to have to sit on this for a while.


How was this horrible?

I think hes scum, he's suspicious of me (but not directly calling me scum).

Half the town thinks hes scum, half the town has me null or worse.

It should provide a wealth of information, if not a scum death.

This is exactly the opposite of a "wealth of information"

What you did was neuter the normal "day period".

Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:42 GMT
#689
On February 26 2013 17:40 Adam4167 wrote:
When I put your last post alongside this quote... something doesnt add up.

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 15:59 yamato77 wrote:
Hey Keir, wanna take up your beef with Adam's stance with me?

I'm pretty sure that guy's town, and it had nothing to do with agreeing with me. Your attack in him does seem to hinge on that point, that somehow his bravado is scum motivated, which would imply that mine was too, because I did it first as you pointed out.

Honestly, I want to see Keir hang. Someone make it happen. Sylencia is another one I could live without right now. My null reads from earlier have returned to the thread and done fuck all to make me think they're townie. Time's a wastin'

I did not mean RIGHT NOW.

Like, not at all. This was bad timing to do so.

If I really wanted to see him lynched, I would have dueled him myself, but the proof isn't there, and his responses to my prods are townie responses, not scummy ones.
Writer@WriterYamato
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 26 2013 08:43 GMT
#690
On February 26 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.


Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile?

Yeah. OK.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:44 GMT
#691
On February 26 2013 17:43 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.


Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile?

Yeah. OK.

What I quickly realized was that you're more likely mafia than town for doing this.

That's what that post you're trying to bury says, you know.
Writer@WriterYamato
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 26 2013 08:45 GMT
#692
yams the tone of that post pretty clearly suggests that you want somebody to call a duel right then.

can you explain keir's townie responses to your prods that you're talking about?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 26 2013 08:46 GMT
#693
On February 26 2013 17:44 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:43 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.


Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile?

Yeah. OK.

What I quickly realized was that you're more likely mafia than town for doing this.

That's what that post you're trying to bury says, you know.


I'm not burying shit. Its right there for everyone to see.

My mafia play is lurky and passive, its right there in Hero mafia for everyone to see. If you think this is my mafia game, you're delusional.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:46 GMT
#694
On February 26 2013 16:37 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 16:23 yamato77 wrote:
To look townie later in the game?

I don't see it. Just because he won't have to back it up doesn't mean it doesn't have town motivations.

And as I asked earlier, if this is your argument, why dies it apply to him and not me ?

Not necessarily to look townie later, but that he gets to use the argument "Look guys, Im town because I did something abnormal!"

The difference between you and him is that you aren't in here making that argument for yourself to buy town cred. Other people have made it for you.

If someone else had said "I think Adam is probably town because he was willing to propose his own unique idea rather than just blending into the town sentiment" I would have probably agreed with them. But for Adam himself to say it triggers my paranoia reflex.

Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:48 GMT
#695
On February 26 2013 17:46 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:44 yamato77 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:43 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.


Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile?

Yeah. OK.

What I quickly realized was that you're more likely mafia than town for doing this.

That's what that post you're trying to bury says, you know.


I'm not burying shit. Its right there for everyone to see.

My mafia play is lurky and passive, its right there in Hero mafia for everyone to see. If you think this is my mafia game, you're delusional.

That is literally the only point in your favor right now, Adam. The only one.
Writer@WriterYamato
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
February 26 2013 08:51 GMT
#696
On February 26 2013 17:48 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:46 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:44 yamato77 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:43 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.


Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile?

Yeah. OK.

What I quickly realized was that you're more likely mafia than town for doing this.

That's what that post you're trying to bury says, you know.


I'm not burying shit. Its right there for everyone to see.

My mafia play is lurky and passive, its right there in Hero mafia for everyone to see. If you think this is my mafia game, you're delusional.

That is literally the only point in your favor right now, Adam. The only one.


The only point in my favor is that i'm playing completely opposite to my scum meta?

MMM GEE, SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD POINT TO HAVE IN MY FAVOR.

Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 08:52 GMT
#697
Wait ok yamato,
Why is adam scum, and Keir town.
GOOOOO
No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:53 GMT
#698
On February 26 2013 17:51 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 17:48 yamato77 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:46 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:44 yamato77 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:43 Adam4167 wrote:
On February 26 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote:
Now it's like the retarded end of day period where everyone's picking a wagon, only there hasn't been NEARLY ENOUGH discussion on these wagons to make either of them particularly attractive.


Yet you didn't have a problem jumping on one instantly, even after declaring that you were going to sit on it for awhile?

Yeah. OK.

What I quickly realized was that you're more likely mafia than town for doing this.

That's what that post you're trying to bury says, you know.


I'm not burying shit. Its right there for everyone to see.

My mafia play is lurky and passive, its right there in Hero mafia for everyone to see. If you think this is my mafia game, you're delusional.

That is literally the only point in your favor right now, Adam. The only one.


The only point in my favor is that i'm playing completely opposite to my scum meta?

MMM GEE, SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD POINT TO HAVE IN MY FAVOR.


It's only a free-pass for so long, dude. At some point you have to judge people independent of their meta, which is what I'm doing. Your play here is mafia-motivated, as I've clearly outlined. You're not even arguing that part, you're arguing that you're somehow confirmed town because you aren't playing passive, which lets me in on the psychological mindset you have. You're concerned here with proving that you're town, not with proving that Keir is mafia, and that is exactly what Keir accused you of before.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 26 2013 08:53 GMT
#699
On February 26 2013 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait ok yamato,
Why is adam scum, and Keir town.
GOOOOO

Read, Oats.

For once in a game with me, read my posts, and think. It's fucking THERE.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 26 2013 08:56 GMT
#700
its ok if you cant think of them on the spot, I will wait.
No gg, No skill.
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