• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:00
CEST 17:00
KST 00:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)10Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy5Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week2Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 SOOP Starcraft Global #22
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - WB Finals & LBR3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Echoes of Revolution and Separation
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 33960 users

This Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia - Page 23

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 118 Next
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 25 2013 17:34 GMT
#441
On February 26 2013 02:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think it's a good idea. if he gets to decide who to duel at the end of the cycle


why do you think it's a good idea? spit it out.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
February 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#442
On February 26 2013 02:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think it's a good idea. if he gets to decide who to duel at the end of the cycle

If you think he's scum, which I presume you do, seeing as you want him to duel, why do you want HIM to pick his dueling partner?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#443
as town he'd be a good player to pick the main lynch candidate. if he's not town then we can lynch him instead
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
February 25 2013 17:39 GMT
#444
In class, so I don't have time to catch-up for now. I'll be on later in the afternoon to post reads. I do want to address the ritual bad D1 case on me though.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398360&currentpage=18#347

Yamato's case boils down to three points:
1) I'm "parroting" marv regarding policy talk.
2) My line of questioning with Cora
3) I haven't made commitments



1) "Parroting"

Firstly, Yamato just made a blanket statement about my play and made no attempt to justify it.
A lot of his early posting was devoted to arguing with me about the setup, which many people did, but the way he did it bothered me, and it is exemplified in this post. He parroted Marvellosity a lot and generally tried to follow him. Example:


It's impossible to address this since Yamato just said I was "parroting" without pointing to any examples of it. I definitely was involved in the policy-talk early on, but that's because of how important I found the policy-talk to be. Each individual player has a great deal of power this game (with the dueling mechanic), and it is important for people to understand the responsibilities that come along with it.

2) Cora Questioning
He begins a line of questioning with Cora, presumably with a negative attitude toward him. How does he follow up?


This is strictly wrong. At this point I had no strong feelings about Cora one way or the other. In fact my line of questioning was intended to be very patient with Cora to understand where he's coming from. I felt people were irrationally out for blood against an inexperienced guy. That much should be very clear from my line of questioning towards him.

3) I haven't made commitments // Not being "town leader"

Regarding the "town leader" thing, I really only take leadership positions in the town when I'm forced to do so. The last game Yamato and I have played (British Empire Mini, which I think he's drawing reference from), I was a vocal leader because:
a) I was the most experienced player in the lineup
b) I was basically confirmed town
c) no one else in the game was posting at all.

If I feel things are going well discussion wise, I don't always take the reigns of the game. Chrono Trigger Mafia and Hero Mini Mafia (town in both games) are examples of this.

As for "not making commitments," I think it's pretty normal not to have any solid commitments hours into Day 0.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
February 25 2013 17:40 GMT
#445
i'm assuming that we are going to wait till deadline before someone calls out a duel
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 25 2013 17:43 GMT
#446
On February 26 2013 02:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
as town he'd be a good player to pick the main lynch candidate. if he's not town then we can lynch him instead


thrawn, this is all weak as shit. iamp was your scumread and then you were possibly suspicious of Acro, and now you randomly want to have Hapa call a duel?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 25 2013 17:47 GMT
#447
On February 26 2013 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 02:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
as town he'd be a good player to pick the main lynch candidate. if he's not town then we can lynch him instead


thrawn, this is all weak as shit. iamp was your scumread and then you were possibly suspicious of Acro, and now you randomly want to have Hapa call a duel?

Remember, thrawn wasn't on-board witht he "two scummy people duel" idea. He said making all those policies was pointless.

So thrawn, why exactly do you want Hapa to duel? Do you think he is scum, or town? What is your ideal scenario for a duel? A strong townie vs a scum suspect? Or two scum suspects against each other?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 25 2013 17:47 GMT
#448
Is this the fruits of your 1.5h catching up, kei? ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 25 2013 17:48 GMT
#449
On February 26 2013 02:47 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
On February 26 2013 02:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
as town he'd be a good player to pick the main lynch candidate. if he's not town then we can lynch him instead


thrawn, this is all weak as shit. iamp was your scumread and then you were possibly suspicious of Acro, and now you randomly want to have Hapa call a duel?

Remember, thrawn wasn't on-board witht he "two scummy people duel" idea. He said making all those policies was pointless.

So thrawn, why exactly do you want Hapa to duel? Do you think he is scum, or town? What is your ideal scenario for a duel? A strong townie vs a scum suspect? Or two scum suspects against each other?


but yes, i do agree. this is still the worst post in the thread imo:

On February 25 2013 09:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't think much policy related thought needs to go into dueling. The more arbitrary rules and policies we try to enforce, the more rules and policies scum have available to hide their actions behind. Let the game flow naturally as to counteract unnatural reads brought on by unnatural/arbitrary policies.


lol, clearly this town ain't big enough. that much is already apparent




[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 25 2013 17:49 GMT
#450
Thrawn/Hapa duel

Let's make it happen, people.
Writer@WriterYamato
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
February 25 2013 17:52 GMT
#451
On February 26 2013 02:49 yamato77 wrote:
Thrawn/Hapa duel

Let's make it happen, people.

Hapa just addressed your case. I agree with him (I pretty much dismissed your arguments as not indicative of alignment). You seem to still think he's scum. Is this because of the points Marv and I made? Or is it for something else?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
February 25 2013 17:54 GMT
#452
Regarding Thrawn: Iamp has a meta town read on him.

Iamp, mind elaborating on that read?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
February 25 2013 17:57 GMT
#453
On February 25 2013 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 13:11 Dienosore wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:48 Adam4167 wrote:
You can still change my mind, I am not a tunnel machine. I pull out of shit tunnels all the time, as I did with GoodKarma in Chrono or SacredSystem in a newbie I subbed into with Zarepath months ago.

You are right, we have more than enough time to deliberate, I am making my intentions known now so we can discuss it at depth.

You want to change my mind? Go find scum. I'd like to think Ill know pretty quickly if what you're posting is genuine or piffle.


Good to hear that you are willing to disarm, even if ever so slightly.

Unfortunately, I am not the best scum hunter. I rely on my maps a lot, as you probably know, which usually require days of information and copious cross referencing before the incriminating connections really stand out.

I'll try to whip up something before I go to bed tonight, though.

oh god i love the map



but ill have to wait until morning.


Dieno posted the map, do you still think he's scum?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 25 2013 17:57 GMT
#454
The scummiest thing about Hapa is the complete lack of aggression in anything he's doing.

What he is doing is also scummy, because it's not hunting scum. I don't even know what it is. I have no idea what his reads are at all.
Writer@WriterYamato
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
February 25 2013 17:58 GMT
#455
On February 26 2013 02:54 Acrofales wrote:
Regarding Thrawn: Iamp has a meta town read on him.

Iamp, mind elaborating on that read?

He doesn't post as scum
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
February 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#456
On February 26 2013 02:57 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On February 25 2013 13:11 Dienosore wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:48 Adam4167 wrote:
You can still change my mind, I am not a tunnel machine. I pull out of shit tunnels all the time, as I did with GoodKarma in Chrono or SacredSystem in a newbie I subbed into with Zarepath months ago.

You are right, we have more than enough time to deliberate, I am making my intentions known now so we can discuss it at depth.

You want to change my mind? Go find scum. I'd like to think Ill know pretty quickly if what you're posting is genuine or piffle.


Good to hear that you are willing to disarm, even if ever so slightly.

Unfortunately, I am not the best scum hunter. I rely on my maps a lot, as you probably know, which usually require days of information and copious cross referencing before the incriminating connections really stand out.

I'll try to whip up something before I go to bed tonight, though.

oh god i love the map



but ill have to wait until morning.


Dieno posted the map, do you still think he's scum?

you reading the thread?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
February 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#457
On February 26 2013 00:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
there's 5 players by my count who haven't really started playing the game yet. It's an unfortunately high percentage.

snarfs/kei/sylencia/alderan/zare

never seen kier not play before

alderan has done this this before he was scum
you actually replaced him.

Alderan was quite lurky as town in GoT mafia. Inactivity seems a bit different, we'll just have to wait and see.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 25 2013 17:59 GMT
#458
On February 26 2013 02:58 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 02:54 Acrofales wrote:
Regarding Thrawn: Iamp has a meta town read on him.

Iamp, mind elaborating on that read?

He doesn't post as scum

I wouldn't say that his play this game is much of a jump from that. He want from not posting to posting nothing.
Writer@WriterYamato
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
February 25 2013 18:00 GMT
#459
On February 26 2013 02:59 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 02:57 Acrofales wrote:
On February 25 2013 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On February 25 2013 13:11 Dienosore wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:48 Adam4167 wrote:
You can still change my mind, I am not a tunnel machine. I pull out of shit tunnels all the time, as I did with GoodKarma in Chrono or SacredSystem in a newbie I subbed into with Zarepath months ago.

You are right, we have more than enough time to deliberate, I am making my intentions known now so we can discuss it at depth.

You want to change my mind? Go find scum. I'd like to think Ill know pretty quickly if what you're posting is genuine or piffle.


Good to hear that you are willing to disarm, even if ever so slightly.

Unfortunately, I am not the best scum hunter. I rely on my maps a lot, as you probably know, which usually require days of information and copious cross referencing before the incriminating connections really stand out.

I'll try to whip up something before I go to bed tonight, though.

oh god i love the map



but ill have to wait until morning.


Dieno posted the map, do you still think he's scum?

you reading the thread?

You haven't commented on Dieno's map.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
February 25 2013 18:01 GMT
#460
On February 26 2013 03:00 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 02:59 iamperfection wrote:
On February 26 2013 02:57 Acrofales wrote:
On February 25 2013 13:15 iamperfection wrote:
On February 25 2013 13:11 Dienosore wrote:
On February 25 2013 12:48 Adam4167 wrote:
You can still change my mind, I am not a tunnel machine. I pull out of shit tunnels all the time, as I did with GoodKarma in Chrono or SacredSystem in a newbie I subbed into with Zarepath months ago.

You are right, we have more than enough time to deliberate, I am making my intentions known now so we can discuss it at depth.

You want to change my mind? Go find scum. I'd like to think Ill know pretty quickly if what you're posting is genuine or piffle.


Good to hear that you are willing to disarm, even if ever so slightly.

Unfortunately, I am not the best scum hunter. I rely on my maps a lot, as you probably know, which usually require days of information and copious cross referencing before the incriminating connections really stand out.

I'll try to whip up something before I go to bed tonight, though.

oh god i love the map



but ill have to wait until morning.


Dieno posted the map, do you still think he's scum?

you reading the thread?

You haven't commented on Dieno's map.

i commented on dino
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 118 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Last Chance Qualifier
uThermal355
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko555
uThermal 355
Hui .209
DenverSC2 124
trigger 53
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41053
Calm 9235
Rain 4173
Bisu 1107
Mini 1052
EffOrt 888
Hyuk 792
Shuttle 576
Stork 415
Leta 280
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 211
sSak 109
Barracks 69
TY 54
Movie 41
soO 39
Dewaltoss 35
ToSsGirL 34
Aegong 32
Terrorterran 24
JulyZerg 20
SilentControl 13
IntoTheRainbow 7
Stormgate
RushiSC21
Dota 2
Gorgc6206
qojqva3082
Counter-Strike
PGG 74
Other Games
singsing2705
hiko1903
B2W.Neo1673
C9.Mang0419
Mew2King175
Liquid`VortiX161
RotterdaM140
KnowMe123
QueenE46
Trikslyr46
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 64
• poizon28 22
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3887
League of Legends
• Jankos3007
• TFBlade1313
Other Games
• WagamamaTV121
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h
Spirit vs MaNa
ByuN vs SKillous
Chance vs ArT
Mixu vs HonMonO
UedSoldier vs SoldieR
sebesdes vs GgMaChine
Babymarine vs Moja
Replay Cast
11h
SOOP
18h
Cure vs Zoun
SC Evo League
21h
Road to EWC
23h
SOOP Global
1d
FuturE vs MaNa
Harstem vs Cham
BSL: ProLeague
1d 3h
Sziky vs JDConan
Cross vs MadiNho
Hawk vs Bonyth
Circuito Brasileiro de…
1d 5h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
Road to EWC
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
UltrA vs TBD
Dewalt vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #3 - GSC
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

NPSL Lushan
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.