EPTGonna read Shaggy tonight and give you guys my read. Last scum has to be between him and VE, so solidifying my read on him will be useful.
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Gonna read Shaggy tonight and give you guys my read. Last scum has to be between him and VE, so solidifying my read on him will be useful. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
I'll write up something more in-depth during the next cycle, but I'm approximately standing at jaybrundage, phagga, X Where X = one of yamato/slOosh I don't want to lynch either of yamato/slOosh though because I had a town read on them until now and I feel like whichever one is scum is going to help me lynch his buddies (thanks slOosh if it's you - you're a bro.  )I've got a suggestion on how we play the rest of this game out. I suggest that we follow slOosh' suggestion earlier on in the game - that we allow the Nominees to lead discussion on Nomination days. We then lynch the scummiest of the Nominees, and lynch the following day based on the conclusions reached BY the nominees the day before. Rinse, repeat. In this way, scum not only have to avoid led, focused discussion, but also have to insert themselves into the nominations if they hope to have any pull on the days we control the lynch. @Oatsmaster Everyone in the game is responsible for finding scum - not just the strong players. As we've seen over the course of this game, strong players can be wrong too. I thought I found scum in Mocsta and no one contested my case but Mocsta himself. Several people dismissed my case outright, saying they were lynching Mocsta on the assumption that he's town, but no one wanted to engage me on the validity of my case. What I'm trying to say is, go back and reread the game, and you tell me who is scum. I'll tell you if I think you're right or why I think you're wrong. I'll do the same, and that's how you play Mafia! ^^ | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Wtf? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
The thing about Oats is that he was here, trying to get discussion in the thread during the last cycle when it would have been so easy for scum to just sit and watch the world burn. That's pretty much the main point in my gut read of him, but like I said he's on my todo. When I filtered over last cycle I completely skipped his filter because he struck me as obvTown based on his interactions with Mocsta. With Mocsta's flip I haven't gone back to revisit those interactions though and that's something I intend to do. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
The last few days were pretty bad in terms of activity. If we want to win this, we need to start discussing more!!!! I dont think that we are out of this game by a long shot. Waiting for Nominations, before expounding on stuff. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
"I have a town read on Oats because he's pushing for discussion" - VE "Discuss stuff, even though I'm not!" - Oats Roflroflrofl | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
Day 6 ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Digital_clock_changing_numbers.jpg/1024px-Digital_clock_changing_numbers.jpg) The new day had begun. The remaining members expected government manipulation of the justice machine. And, as they settled into their seats, the monitor let out a static-filled whir, and there were only 3 numbers to choose from. 3. 6. 13. They began discussion quickly and quietly as the timer on the clock began to tick down once more. Mr. Cheesecake, slOosh, and Yamato77 have been nominated for lynch. You have 48 hours to decide from these candidates whom to lynch. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Guess who's town? Me! | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
At this point of time, I dont think anyone in that list is scum. So people who got nominated, please state scumreads. THANKS :D | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Its 10 pm EST AND NOBODY IS HERE. The newbie game is more active than this game. Nominees, if you are town, please help us win the game. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I have a few more ideas other than 'Lol jay / phagga scum'. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Because I'm drunk ##Vote Sloosh /thread | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 19 2013 12:38 yamato77 wrote: I say we lynch Sloosh today Because I'm drunk ##Vote Sloosh /thread Killing SlOosh would be the dumbest thing imo. Out of the three nominations day 1 all three flipped green so far. I think it's safe to say that mafia nominated three townies day one. This should obvious from thinking abit. Also the fact that mafia have kept the same pool of canidates would imply that they actually want these people dead. I think that In the later days it is more likely that mafia would feel the need to put some mafia in the town nomination so that they cant get to end game with a confirmed list of townie's more or less. Because of this reasoning I think we should centralize all discussion on who to vote for between Yamato and CC. This way we can create two camps. And narrow the process down. It also makes scum have to take a hard stance if by chance of there scum buddies is on the docket. While it is possible that all three nominations are town. I think it gets less liklely as the nominations go on. Also the fact that VE has not been chosen as a nomination is damning to say the least. Similar to how Marv stayed alive the entire time in Hero Mafia it is very unlikley that mafia would keep VE alive this entire time if he was town. After we finish this business today we should have some discussion on him. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Jay, do you have an actual reason as to why Yamato or CC are scum, other than, OH I THINK SCUM WOULD PLAY THIS WAY. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
So I have a strong town read on CC and VE. With me we have 3 people, 2 of which I would like to indiscriminately keep till the endgame (I don't care if it means I get lynched if all 3 of us go up, doesn't change the plan). We hit scum tomorrow, and we lynch whoever isn't in the trio (or the more likely case we lynch me since the trio is nominated) and then scum the next day. In the meantime, scum will continue to put townies up, because they know putting themselves up will be suicide, according to this plan. Thereby, we eliminate 2 null reads during the even cycles (well it will be the most towniest outside of the trio but whatever). To be honest I still haven't had a chance to look at jay, but it seems like I'm in the wrong, especially since prplhz flipping town means there's one more scum in the playerlist and that the early interaction with jay is more how VE perceived it, not I. I still want to give it an honest go, but it will probably come tomorrow. Not liking his latest post for the unheeded slight at VE and narrowing of CC / yamato without contribution, nor how he voted debears instead of prplhz given that Palmar thought prplhz was scum - but there is a good chance I'm just trusting the objective reads from VE and CC, so gotta wait for the final verdict. Phagga I've had scum read forever, and I think by this point I've lost the ability to objectively read him without calling him scum at every turn, so I can't really discuss him that well. I just don't think he is scumhunting at all - just popping him to defend himself and ask inane questions, and making up scum reads off the cases of others without any initial contribution. Also I think yamato is town because it would be suicidal to put up someone against my and CC who have very strong town reads on each other (plus behavioral analysis etc.). I also think that scum will never put one of their own up, given my plan will insta lynch whoever isn't in the trio, and that scum won't gambit the one surefire means of eliminating townies for the fickle chance of "town cred". So if I did my planning right, yamato will die today, we lynch phagga / jay, next cycle I can die on behalf of trio, then we lynch the remainder of phagga / jay, then we lynch the remainder of the player pool (it will be VE, CC 1 town 1 scum at this point), lynch the 3rd player nominated and the remainder afterward, and win the longest game ever played of all time. Plan works if you believe VE and CC town, phagga jay is scum. It circumvents need to decipher through debears / Oats & yamato. Given that the only things mounted against VE / CC are paranoid scum bus theories (I think a phagga flip would show how it wasn't a coordinated scum bus, unless you want to argue that was intentional at which point you are scum for trying to stretch the truth that far), and good consensus that phagga and jay are scum, I think this is the way to go. Cool. So discussion on if you think phagga / jay is town and if so, who is scummier than they, or an actual case on why VE / CC is scum, or feedback on my plan. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On February 19 2013 14:58 Oatsmaster wrote: Lynch Jay tomorrow. Jay, do you have an actual reason as to why Yamato or CC are scum, other than, OH I THINK SCUM WOULD PLAY THIS WAY. Dont lynch me you know im town T_T. I do have speculation of how mafia are playing. But regardless either way I dont think we should lynch SlOosh I have a town read on him. So I narrowed it down too two candidates. Is it possible that we have three town candidates yes. However I believe one of them can be mafia. The trick is finding which one. Mocsta has a very elaborate theory. About how the Snarfs lynch played out. I don't think its completely out of the question for a one of Yamato or CC to b scum. Then I think that the remaining candidate's are somewhere in VE Debears and Yamato and CC. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Why are you trying to solve the game by using setup speculation instead of scumhunting. Why are you doing all these non-alignment indicative things? You appear to be so lazy and that is what scum would do cause they cant actually make a case. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Wtf. We keep you alive until endgame, because why? I say we kill you today and mod confirm what Mafia has been doing with the nominations. Jay pushing mafia agenda, so him suggesting not lynching you is hilariously bad. Just makes me want to lynch you more. I'd rather scumhunt like normal. On that note, I'm going to read VE/Phagga and see if I can figure the both of them out. | ||
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