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On February 18 2013 00:29 phagga wrote:
Because it's a topic that is still being discussed, and several people seem to base their read on me at least partially on that vote switch. I wanted to lay out my thoughts and feelings and try to show my point of view. Hopefully I can convince other townies that I am not scum to prevent a mislynch on me.
What is your read on jay? Why vote prp over jay?
I'd say both of them are quite more likely to flip scum than you, especially jay.
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Dibbers, how can you even say prphlz has a better chance to flip red than Phagga? Phaggas cases have been pretty safe and somewhat sheepish at best, and he's been soup defendy most of the game. Prp has been lurky, yes, and show some disinterest in the game, ya, but are those really telltale scum signs? I think he has a good chance to flip red but not moreso than Phagga, and especially Jay.
Phagga much scummier than prp. i have some gripes with prp but you should consider lynching Phagga today, Dibbers. He explained his position but im still on the fence about his reasoning.
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On February 18 2013 00:57 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 00:29 phagga wrote:
Because it's a topic that is still being discussed, and several people seem to base their read on me at least partially on that vote switch. I wanted to lay out my thoughts and feelings and try to show my point of view. Hopefully I can convince other townies that I am not scum to prevent a mislynch on me. What is your read on jay? Why vote prp over jay? I'd say both of them are quite more likely to flip scum than you, especially jay.
I earlier wrote earlier that you and jay are my current lynch candidates. I wrote that because I looked at the player list and crossed out who I do not want to lynch, and you two were left over. However, your analysis of the game so far puts me on null for you. Jay is still a candidate though.
The reason my vote is on prplhz is because I want to see more from him. He has been giving us nothing for a long period of time. However, I thought his early play was ok, so I am a bit surprised that he falls off so hard now. So let's see if he can actually come up with some more content to allow us a better read on him.
I read your posts on jay. I've written earlier that I thought his behaviour around palmars lynch was barely town motivated, I agree with your analysis on this topic. The really strong part however was your post on his behaviour around the snarfs lynch. I did Ctrl+F his filter for snarfs, and there is really no analysis from his side why Snarfs should not be lynched. Instead he was almost begging people to switch to VE without giving reasons.
I also thought this post to be very strange:
On February 13 2013 11:21 jaybrundage wrote:
Wow did not see that coming. Snarf's complete lack of input this game really made me think he was just a silent townie.
Glad you guys saw who was scum better then I did. Great job town
The overall tone of this post is buddying. The second sentence does not make any sense. So if someone is not saying a single word the whole game he is probably a silent townie? How can he see a townie motivation in not saying anything? Silence of a player is in the best case a null tell, in the worst case a mafia tell.
The post feels so fabricated, I always expect a "/sarcasm"-tag at the end. I really have a hard time to believe that someone who is genuinely surprised by the outcome of that lynch would react that way. Add this to the analysis you posted, and I feel confident that jay will flip red.
TL;DR, I support a lynch on prplhz and jay.
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On February 17 2013 14:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well yamato, dick play isnt good play.
Anyway, answer the OTHER QUESTION.
I have a null read on VE and slOosh.
The thing is, they should be doing so much more than they are currently doing. They have no fear of nightkills so WHY arent they being ultra mega useful to town?
Regarding Sloosh, I really think he is having a bad game. When looking through his filter I don't get the sense that he is pushing a mafia agenda, but I disagree with almost everything he writes by now.
Regarding VE it's a bit trickier. I found his case on Mocsta bad, as was the case on sloosh. However, he has been on snarfs early on. Also, he gave Yamato a gleaming green read at a point where he could have pushed for a lynch on Yamato (3 votes on Yamato at the time of that post, 2 on VE, 2 on snarfs). His activity has dropped of sharp for the last few days, but the few posts he has actually have some content (in contrast to prplhz, for example)
I feel that sloosh and VE are townies who are having a bad game.
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Day 5 Vote Count:
Debears (1): jaybrundage, Oatsmaster
prplhz (5): yamato77, VisceraEyes, slOosh, Oatsmaster, phagga
jaybrundage (2): debears, Oatsmaster, prplhz
Phagga (0): Oatsmaster
Deadline in 6.5 hours.
Mr. Cheesecake has not voted.
Currently prplhz is set to be lynched.
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Hi guys. Sorry, yesterday was the day my wife and I celebrated V-Day, so yeah.
I guess I'm wondering why nobody wanted to engage my "weak Mocsta case". I found it to be pretty solid, and was frankly shocked when Mocsta flipped green. I was taking an approach of "people opposing a Snarfs lynch" and thought for sure I found scum. Mocsta answered, but all he said was "it's bad, all your points show clear town motivation" which isn't the case obviously because I viewed them as scum points. It left me at kinda a loss as to where to go when Mocsta flipped town.
Regarding today's lynch:
I've got like 6 hours until lynch right? I'm going to read some filters and decide who I like most for lynch. Right now it seems like prplhz and jayb are the candidates being discussed the most, so that's where I'm starting.
@slOosh
It's fine, really. If you're town just help me find scum. phagga seems townier than jayb, and you're still not mentioning jay that I can see. I'm getting this sneaking suspicion that prplhz is just clocking this game in as town - his whole play has been lazy, but it's been consistently lazy...like it seems to me that if he's scum his people will have been like "yo dude do something plx" I've been operating under the assumption that "Hey push VE" was his instruction, but I'm finding that harder and harder to believe. What if prplhz is town? He's among the first pushers of VE, so if I had been lynched he would have been among the first blamed when I flipped.
I'm filtering jayb first and I'd like your thoughts on him. In return, I'll revisit your phagga read after I filter jayb.
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Regarding today's lynch:
I've got like 6 hours until lynch right? I'm going to read some filters and decide who I like most for lynch. Right now it seems like prplhz and jayb are the candidates being discussed the most, so that's where I'm starting.
This is so scummy its unbelievable..
Are you saying that after 4 days, you have ABSOLUTELY no scum reads? Really?
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On February 17 2013 00:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh WTF
slOosh now would be a good time to powwow with me...Cheese you too. You guys both seemed sure Mocsta was town, yet neither of you commented on my case. This simultaneously saddens and disturbs me...mainly because this is my list in order of most willing to lynch to least.
prplhz
Jaybrundage
? phagga
? Djodref/debears
? Oatsmaster
yamato
slOosh
Cheese
As you can see, you both share pretty much a free pass from me...I expected more feedback on Mocsta, though I wasn't here to press for it. I hope during this phase we can come to an intelligent decision on who to lynch. In the meantime though,
##Vote: prplhz
I'll be around for a little bit, but tonight I'm going out with the wifey (V-day Rain Check). I expect the thread to blow up with thoughts and contributions from everyone, but judging from last phase I wouldn't be surprised to be disappointed.
Right now, I'm going to revisit Oatsmaster's case on slOosh. He's my towniest null read (though to be fair he's been sheeping the piss out of me except for this last phase and I might be biased) and I'd like Oats' thoughts on players toward the top of my list.
This is where I'm standing, but my read on prplhz is wavering based on what I just said. I didn't say I have no scumreads, I said I'm reevaluating my vote on prplhz. You wanna explain why you're misrepresenting my statement so blatantly?
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Right now it seems like prplhz and jayb are the candidates being discussed the most, so that's where I'm starting.
This reads like you had no read on them before.
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I'm sorry it came across that way? I don't know what to tell you. What do you think about prplhz?
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I think he is scum.
His day 1 was alright, but it dropped off dramatically from there.
Now its kinda like snarfs, where the more he got pressured, the less content he posts. Like LIX too.
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Day 5 Vote Count:
Debears (1): jaybrundage, Oatsmaster
prplhz (5): yamato77, VisceraEyes, slOosh, Oatsmaster, phagga
jaybrundage (2): debears, Oatsmaster, prplhz
Phagga (1): Oatsmaster, Mr. Cheesecake
Deadline in ~2 hours.
Currently prplhz is set to be lynched.
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On February 18 2013 01:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Dibbers, how can you even say prphlz has a better chance to flip red than Phagga? Phaggas cases have been pretty safe and somewhat sheepish at best, and he's been soup defendy most of the game. Prp has been lurky, yes, and show some disinterest in the game, ya, but are those really telltale scum signs? I think he has a good chance to flip red but not moreso than Phagga, and especially Jay.
Phagga much scummier than prp. i have some gripes with prp but you should consider lynching Phagga today, Dibbers. He explained his position but im still on the fence about his reasoning.
Prp has been very nonchalant and uninvolved in a game with no nks. He didn't vote for a scum lynch. His activity and reasoning this day has been almost nonexistent.
Phaggas posting today did not say to me "I'm scum. Lynch me please."
Honestly, I don't even care that much to a lynch on either in comparisom to a jay lynch
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Debears & cheesecake, do I understand you right that you have some doubts regarding prplhz?
Hey VE: Any updates on your reads?
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I'm satisfied with the state of the lynch.
I don't know how debears is more sure of jay than prplhz, but that's really splitting hairs at this point, because I think they're both mafia.
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blah, nothing going on here, I'm off to bed.
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If any of you are going to bed before deadline, I'm town.
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On February 18 2013 08:47 prplhz wrote:
If any of you are going to bed before deadline, I'm town.
If that's true, it's highly disappointing.
What are your reads right now?
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On February 18 2013 08:49 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 08:47 prplhz wrote:
If any of you are going to bed before deadline, I'm town. If that's true, it's highly disappointing. What are your reads right now?
Well, prepare to be disappointed. At least you can say "But he was lurking!".
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This is your last chance to actually contribute to town.
Who do you think is mafia?
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