EPTOk I think Mocsta and Palmar are 100% town so I suggest we lynch slOosh.
Also, Can all the candidates make a statment as to why they should not be lynched?
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Ok I think Mocsta and Palmar are 100% town so I suggest we lynch slOosh. Also, Can all the candidates make a statment as to why they should not be lynched? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Quick Summary, Palmar doesnt lurk as scum, he tries to look as townie as possible. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Mocsta I have a town read on from the way he's trying to lead discussion and making pushes and trying to facilitate town discussion. I think we should keep him. Palmar is the wild card. He was almost killed yesterday. But the lynch didn't happen because he can be such a strong town player if he puts his mind on it. The question is if he's scum and people deflected the lynch off of him. And now mafia are WIFOM with giving us the oppurtinuty to lynch him today. Or if he really is town and mafia want him gone. I want to see solid content from him today. Or my mind can change on him. SlOosh has kinda just been here. He has put up occasionally reads. But the fact that he was afk the latter half of the day has really hurt his contribution. I feel like he's for sure town and mafia just want to get rid of him knowing he can be a good town force later on. What do you guys think. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
It's all about SlOosh and Palmar stepping it up right now. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
Scummiest so far. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Oatsmaster
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
On February 09 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Snarfs, what do you hope to achieve with your vote? The candidates havent even shown up yet I hope to get Palmar in the thread telling us why prplhz is scum despite the arguments to the contrary on day 1. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Do you care who is getting lynched today? | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
Yes, I have the utmost respect for Palmar; however, inactive Palmar is just frustrating  .I might be drunk though, so if this sounds way too crazy, please call me out on it haha | ||
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Snarfs
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Snarfs
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On February 09 2013 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Prp isnt getting lynched in the next 47 hours. Do you care who is getting lynched today? Why are you so antagonistic, Oats? | ||
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Snarfs
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Snarfs
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Your attempt at calling negative attention to prplhz On February 08 2013 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok guys, what do you think about prp, or more specifically, his vote? A few hours/posts before he leaves, he posts this And then His vote ??? Conveniently neglects the following posts: On February 08 2013 03:16 prplhz wrote: I'm not sure. I want to lynch jaybrundage but no one else likes that lynch. I want to lynch Palmar but I see no reason to do it right now when we might as well just do it later. I actually like Snarfs case on VisceraEyes. On February 08 2013 07:38 prplhz wrote: @VisceraEyes Why are you so anxious to get rid of Palmar right now? No one said it could last forever. Why would we take the fact that he is Palmar away from the equation considering that .... he is Palmar? On February 08 2013 08:28 prplhz wrote: You can't mention Snarfs case as reasonable for possibily lynching VisceraEyes when you have said (repeatedly) that it isn't a good case. I can do that, however, since I've always liked Snarfs case. I don't like the looks of VisceraEyes. I'll lynch him over JieXian. That seems pretty damn scummy to me. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Honestly, after last night I think it's Sloosh. He looked like he was setting himself up for this, which is a weird assumption to make coming off his play yesterday. He says it is because mafia want him dead, and are using this as a potential NK on him, but is this really the case? Obviously one could assume that this is the approach mafia took, but the fact that he set this idea up before the candidates were posted makes me uneasy. If he's town I want to see it. Right now I don't think either of him or Palmar is town, but when I've thought about these nominations I've come to the conclusion that the most mafia would put up at one time would be one of their members, if at all. Therefor, with the selection of Mocsta as the third candidate, and not someone more ambiguous in alignment like VE or Jay, I believe mafia to have picked the two of them with the express intention of getting one of them killed. If there is a mafia in the group, I say it has to be Sloosh. I don't think mafia would put up a lurky Palmar already under suspicion for a lynch. I highly doubt that Mocsta is mafia at this point in time. Only Sloosh makes any sense from a mafia perspective at this point in time. It's true that he may be town, as all three certainly could be, but in this case I think our choice is still clear, we kill Sloosh. It's more of a process of elimination in this case, and I will explain at length below. Mocsta as town, while not known for the accuracy of his reads, is at least easy to read and active, which is more than enough reason to not kill him. Having the towniest people kept alive the longest benefits us in this situation. Eventually mafia will have no choice but to put themselves up against these ultra-town players in nominations, and that will be there undoing. Under no circumstances do I think we should even consider Mocsta as a choice. Palmar has a history of behaving exactly this way as town. While it makes him difficult to read, and rather useless to us at the present moment, I think with time we will know his alignment. Out of these three players, in this context, I do not think that Palmar is the best lynch out of them. It is certainly possible that he is town, being useless, and mafia put him up here hoping town chooses him and kills him off early before he actually gets rolling. As mafia, I do not think he would be put up here, because of the exact same logic, it would be quite easy for town to lynch him today based on his play yesterday. Sloosh is therefor the most likely mafia. His contributions to this game have been slim. I can summarize his play in two sentences. Day 1, he pressured me and then backed off. Night 1, he talked about being nominated and gave his speech about how town he'll be today. I do not think a town player would be as sure as he was that he would be nominated today. While I saw the possibility, I also saw other routes mafia could take. Furthermore, why would he, as town, want to make a perfectly good case for why he should be chosen for tomorrow's lynch nominations? I tend to believe this more likely coming from mafia, to set it up in people's heads that mafia is just trying to kill him indirectly because he is supposedly a dangerous town player to be left alive. My opinion may change today, as it is still early and there are many hours between now and the lynch, but based on what has happened up to this point, I think Sloosh is the most likely mafia. ##Vote: Sloosh | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
First, you have the all-town nominations, something that functions somewhat like an NK, only town chooses between 3 of your picks. Town, if they realize this might be the case, can counterplay by lynching the weakest townie of the group and going from there. It would have to be super transparent and all three people on the block would have to play along, something which is difficult to guarantee. Then you have some mix of mafia included. The danger with this is obviously that the mafia, or one of the two, has a real chance of dying. The advantage is that people are more likely to think all three are town than they are to believe that any one is mafia, because of this risk. The counterplay to this situation is to simply scumhunt, but the problem is going to be identifying whether mafia picked one if their own or not. The last, and absolutely least likely possibility is an all-mafia nomination group, where mafia bus one of their own and hope the act gains enough towncred to see them to lylo. Identifying this would be nearly impossible, as you're very unlikely to see three mafia flips before it means enough to catch another, but the risk of sacrificing a member for sure, and the risk of losing a member you didn't want to lose, should be enough to deter them from doing this. I think the most likely is 2 town 1 mafia. Just enough risk to make it worth it to put yourself on the line, but not enough as to truly hurt mafia's chances of winning if it goes wrong. Best case scenario, town lynches another townie and a mafia gains a little bit of defense of himself. Worst case scenario, you lose the mafia you put up, but you minimized the risk anyway and he wasn't super valuable. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I looked at the posts leading up to his vote, and they all indicated a desire to lynch Jay, then he votes for VE. Dont you see something wrong there? | ||
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