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Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
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On January 25 2013 17:17 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 16:47 AxleGreaser wrote:
@YAMato77
Why did you vote for an Annul lynch at the start of D2?
perhaps more importantly why did you vote for it when you did? If you read the game you would know why, but it's because he looked red to me N1 and I wanted him dead early D2. That weakened, I found a better read, and now I'm left to consider the possibility of mafia Annul yet again.
Ok. Yam that might be true but what is the effect on our ability to find scum if the wagon on Annul Starts early in D2 gathers
a lot of momentum.
Is that likely to be good for the amount of information scum is forced to give away or not?
Even if Annul is scum, an early fast wagon will lead to less effective scum hunting that can act as resource for subsequent days?
Would you agree with those statements?
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On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
This logic doesnt make sense to me.
If mafia RB vivax, why would they burn KP on him?
Its one or the other, either way he doesnt get a DT check.
You jailing him, he still doesnt get a DT check.
Wheres the value?
The only value i can see is if you think he will add value to scum hunting day3 without DT information.
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On January 25 2013 19:03 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 17:17 yamato77 wrote:On January 25 2013 16:47 AxleGreaser wrote:
@YAMato77
Why did you vote for an Annul lynch at the start of D2?
perhaps more importantly why did you vote for it when you did? If you read the game you would know why, but it's because he looked red to me N1 and I wanted him dead early D2. That weakened, I found a better read, and now I'm left to consider the possibility of mafia Annul yet again. Ok. Yam that might be true but what is the effect on our ability to find scum if the wagon on Annul Starts early in D2 gathers a lot of momentum. Is that likely to be good for the amount of information scum is forced to give away or not? Even if Annul is scum, an early fast wagon will lead to less effective scum hunting that can act as resource for subsequent days? Would you agree with those statements?
Axle,
I see the point you are raising, but this is normal play.
Annul was a weak scum read. You pressure on, and determine if he comes null to town; or strong scum read.
I dont see a problem with this move.
Axle.. i see you questioning many people over their behaviour and direction they are trying to give.
Could you please indicate who your top scum read is, and why.
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On January 25 2013 19:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
This logic doesnt make sense to me. If mafia RB vivax, why would they burn KP on him? Its one or the other, either way he doesnt get a DT check. You jailing him, he still doesnt get a DT check. Wheres the value? The only value i can see is if you think he will add value to scum hunting day3 without DT information.
the value is that I think someone might be stupid enough to think vivax needs a protection. I'm forcing medics to protect something else with that statement :p
I roleblock townies while protection so IF someone is going to waste protection on vivax let it at least be me in case I get tails that is.
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On January 25 2013 19:37 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 19:30 Mocsta wrote:On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
This logic doesnt make sense to me. If mafia RB vivax, why would they burn KP on him? Its one or the other, either way he doesnt get a DT check. You jailing him, he still doesnt get a DT check. Wheres the value? The only value i can see is if you think he will add value to scum hunting day3 without DT information. the value is that I think someone might be stupid enough to think vivax needs a protection. I'm forcing medics to protect something else with that statement :p I roleblock townies while protection so IF someone is going to waste protection on vivax let it at least be me in case I get tails that is.
hmm OK, I have faith in your experience and decision making. 
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On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
What the hell is this retarded post?
You announce you're going to offensively jail a scum and you think they will let him make the kill?
You're just setting yourself up to let me get shot.
It's sad I'm the first to post this.
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On January 25 2013 19:37 Toadesstern wrote:
I roleblock townies while protection so IF someone is going to waste protection on vivax let it at least be me in case I get tails that is.
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Tell me Toad, why do you want to jail BKE?
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do not jail vivax. that's pretty stupid. let medic protect him so he can get a DT check off.
also, if you jail BKE and he is mafia, then mafia get only 1 KP tonight. therefore, one medic on vivax would be enough: mafia cannot stack shots on him since they only have one shot. unless mafia RB works on your sheriff ability... i have no idea if it does.
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On January 25 2013 20:37 Vivax wrote:
Tell me Toad, why do you want to jail BKE?
read the OP before telling me I'm doing something bad. You can't block shots that are delived by mafia.
Jailing a mafia reduces their number. Right now there are 3 mafais. If I jail BKE they lose 1 KP for this night.
Sounds better than protection a townie and blocking him to me, doesn't it?
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On January 25 2013 20:52 annul wrote:
do not jail vivax. that's pretty stupid. let medic protect him so he can get a DT check off.
also, if you jail BKE and he is mafia, then mafia get only 1 KP tonight. therefore, one medic on vivax would be enough: mafia cannot stack shots on him since they only have one shot. unless mafia RB works on your sheriff ability... i have no idea if it does.
no one is going to shoot vivax. He claimed DT for christs sake..
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Was a roleblock claimed after Night 1 other than bugs?
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On January 25 2013 20:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
What the hell is this retarded post? You announce you're going to offensively jail a scum and you think they will let him make the kill? You're just setting yourself up to let me get shot. It's sad I'm the first to post this.
you're the first to post this because you're, again, the only one in the thread who doesn't understand this game 
Everyone else apparently understood it fine.
Now we've at least got it confirmed I guess.
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On January 25 2013 20:56 FiveTouch wrote:
Was a roleblock claimed after Night 1 other than bugs?
I don't think so but the kills are either retarded or attempted blue-snipes. I'm going with attempted blue-snipes since JX was pretty lurkish for example. So I'd say they might have rb'ed them as well for both the RB on a possible blue + hiding the RB.
Of course it's possible that there's no RB to begin with but there's no way in finding that out.
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On January 25 2013 20:56 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 20:37 Vivax wrote:
Tell me Toad, why do you want to jail BKE? read the OP before telling me I'm doing something bad. You can't block shots that are delived by mafia. Jailing a mafia reduces their number. Right now there are 3 mafais. If I jail BKE they lose 1 KP for this night. Sounds better than protection a townie and blocking him to me, doesn't it?
Don't worry Toad, I read the OP.
I just wanted to hear the argumentation for you to jail BKE precisely cause I wanted to know if you know that mafia don't have to pick someone to make the kill.
I'd have wanted it confirmed by a host afterwards in case you said that.
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I even read the OP so well that I've sent jcarlsoniv a PM lol.
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On January 25 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Axle ur a null to leaning scum read for me.
At the same time with ur style i actualy dont want to pressure u either.
Seriously though. If u think 5T was elected due to mason circle. U r not reading the thread from over 40hrs ago.
5T was a voice of reason. Thats why he was elected.. He summarises it all in a post addressed to oats.
Stop being lazy and read the game..
Given that you appear to be responding to post where i did not suggest what you claim I did please stop being lazy and read my post.
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Toad, actually do me a favour and don't flip a coin, simply don't protect me.
If we have a medic, good, if we don't, good.
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On January 25 2013 21:25 Vivax wrote:
Toad, actually do me a favour and don't flip a coin, simply don't protect me.
If we have a medic, good, if we don't, good.
can do, if the medic promises me to protect someone else than you.
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