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On January 31 2013 03:25 Acid~ wrote:
Why did you not urge town to take their vote off SkaPunk when you did? You said you switched because you had a town read on him. You had been leading town all day, why did not lead town away from what you thought would be a mislynch?
You've been dodging this question all day.
I never said I swtiched from Ska because I had a town read on him. I voted for Ska in the first place to pressure him into posting. It didn't work. I thought maybe there was some >0% chance pressuring someone else to post would work.
Imagine I am the doctor. The doctor NEEDS to make town reads to be an effective doctor (unlike a VT who only really needs to make scum reads). Does that help you understand my play?
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That's not the reason I switched my vote from him.
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I'm pretty sure I'll be NK'd anyway, if I'm not lynched first, lol.
If I'm alive at the start of D3 I'll consider claiming, if I still have no useful scum reads.
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On January 31 2013 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:34 warbaby wrote:
That's not the reason I switched my vote from him. The argument is that if you have a weak town read on ska, you would defend him more, no matter how weak the read was. Why, if you think he was town, did you not make any kind of post trying to save him?
I'm not going to defend people I have weak town reads on. It's not my job.
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On January 31 2013 03:39 Acid~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:36 warbaby wrote:On January 31 2013 03:36 Sn0_Man wrote:On January 31 2013 03:34 warbaby wrote:
That's not the reason I switched my vote from him. The argument is that if you have a weak town read on ska, you would defend him more, no matter how weak the read was. Why, if you think he was town, did you not make any kind of post trying to save him? I'm not going to defend people I have weak town reads on. It's not my job. Thank you, that's all I wanted from you  A nice, juicy scum claim. If it's not your job to lynch scum instead of town, you are scum.
That's nonsense. The job of town is to hunt scum, not defend other towns.
The job of town is to not vote for people they have a weak town read on.
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EBWOP: Unless you're voting someone you have a weak town read on, to pressure them. In that case go right ahead 
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On January 31 2013 03:44 zarepath wrote:
You're in no position to be a tease about this.
That's only because you help me help you.
The reason I'm softclaiming is because Sn0_man is right. It will bring clarity to town if you find out my flip. I'm encouraging you to contemplate hypothetical scenarios, since you don't seem to understand my play.
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EBWOP: You won't help me help you.
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On January 31 2013 03:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Your Grave = dug, warbaby.
Sorry if I didn't handle things right. I'll try harder next time.
I'm sick as a dog now, I haven't held down solid food in almost 48 hours. I almost certainly have the flu, and it's really killing my motivation (to do anything, not just mafia). I tried to make cases for scum earlier (in D2), the only person who really responded was Glurio (who's the one I accused, so it hardly matters). I don't really know what to do now, since people seem to be ignoring any post I make that's not explaining my previous actions, or defending myself. It's like I'm stuck in a time warp.
You're boxing me into defending myself so much I can't do anything else, and be heard. I don't know what I can do about that.
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On January 31 2013 04:02 Acid~ wrote:
Actually no, the job of town is to *lynch* scum. Letting town lynch someone you have a soft town read on is not lynching scum. It's not even hunting scum. It's passively letting scum win the game.
You're right that the job of town is to lynch scum. But if I'm spending all your time defending myself and other towns (which is what you seem to want me to do), then how am I going to actually hunt scum?
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EBWOP: Spending all _my_ time defending myself.
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I tried to hunt scum, and you guys went all Spanish Inquisition on my ass. I still tried to hunt scum, while explaining my actions, since you guys were grilling me so hard I figured you must really not get it.
What the fuck else am I supposed to do? I'm not SkaPunk's defense attorney.
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On January 31 2013 04:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, first off, if you are feeling sick I recommend doing everything in your power to get better. Forum mafia is pretty irrelevant compared to real life health problems.
That out of the way, don't fake a blueclaim then fail to back it up. Its suicide. I'll admit we might not be giving you a fair chance at other things.
Thank you. I am getting more rest and drinking lots of orange juice
First you say if I'm going to claim, I should do it immediately D2. Then you say it's suicide. Earlier you imply that killing me will help town. So why shouldn't I commit suicide? It would still be playing for my motive, since I could win later if the information is so useful to town.
I'm willing to take your advice on claims since this is my first newbie game, but your advice here doesn't add up...
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Also worth pointing out that the scum role cop is almost certainly going to check me, if he didn't already. So my claim might not be giving scum anything they don't already know.
I'll think about it.
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Also worth noting that if there's a doc, there's still a 20% chance that we rolled a doc + JK setup, and the JK is actually responsible for the night save.
Is there a chance that the lack of NK was due to scum making no action? (and if I'm scum, I would certainly have made a night action, lol).
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On January 30 2013 12:45 cDgCorazon wrote:along with the other reasons and you just acting like a general douchebag, are why I'm voting for you. Understand, or do I need to simplify more?
I really want to highlight that, besides his tunnelling me hardcore, there's no legitimate reason to vote Acid~. My OMGUS vote was a mistake, and I recognize that now.
I'll say it again. Voting someone for being a douchebag is silly. Further, Acid~ seems to be making an effort to be less of a douchebag, even if he's still tunnelling hardcore.
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On January 31 2013 05:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
@warbaby; we already established that it is very very likely scum did do an action last night, since everybody save cakepie was around Night 1. And not doing an action is pretty silly in a scum game. This speculation doesn't look good.
I asked a question because I wasn't sure.
On January 31 2013 05:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright, @ the real doctor: DO NOT CLAIM. Even if warbaby claims, do not counter. He will even know who you protected last night, if he is scum.
You're saying the doctor shouldn't claim. But I should claim that I'm the doctor? Telling me to fake claim is not a town-motivated action.
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I am doctor. I used my night action on Zarepath.
I will post before lynch (if I am still set to be lynched) with a full info dump. Otherwise I will post a detailed will N2.
This flu is making me fucking delirious. That in mind, I want town to remember there is a 20% chance of JK and some unknown probability they made the N1 save. When I flip doc zare is not 100% confirmed town.
I will post more, to make my claim/suicide as useful as possible for town as soon as I'm sure I'm not spouting delirium-induced nonsense.
Hard claiming to prevent mislynch is bullshit because I will just die N2. I will try my best to make another save, but that's futile if I am the night target.
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By the way, I am using my limited sick days at work due to this flu. So unlike acid I am not just shitting you guys about my personal complications.
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On January 31 2013 06:10 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 06:04 warbaby wrote:
I am doctor. I used my night action on Zarepath.
I will post before lynch (if I am still set to be lynched) with a full info dump. Otherwise I will post a detailed will N2.
This flu is making me fucking delirious. That in mind, I want town to remember there is a 20% chance of JK and some unknown probability they made the N1 save. When I flip doc zare is not 100% confirmed town.
I will post more, to make my claim/suicide as useful as possible for town as soon as I'm sure I'm not spouting delirium-induced nonsense.
Hard claiming to prevent mislynch is bullshit because I will just die N2. I will try my best to make another save, but that's futile if I am the night target. Much more helpful to town. Please do post a full info dump (whatever that is supposed to mean). I'm still convinced you are scum If nothing else, i fail to see why scum would hit zare night 1, no matter who they were. As such, some justification of why you protected him (hypothetically) would be nice.
I felt he was obviously reading the thread more critically than anybody else. This makes him most strategically useful to town. And thus the most strategically useful to hit.
It is 20% on Zare when I flip doc because the jk only setup is eliminated.
My top scum reads are sno and glurio, but I feel lynching slay is justifiable as LAL. More to come.
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