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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 01:02 GMT
#573
K I have supper (already postponed it for the deadline) I'lll be back to see flips in like half an hour. I STILL DONT KNOW IF MY VOTE COUNTS its at 10:00 fml
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 01:02 GMT
#574
From OP:

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark (that is any votes after 17:00 MST (-07:00)) will not count. Currently the deadline is 18:00 MST (-07:00), but that may be subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to the posted time, but not after. (17:59 MST (-07:00) is fine but not 18:00 MST (-07:00)).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 01:23 GMT
#577
On January 31 2013 10:04 warbaby wrote:
Sn0_man

Why.


We shall see if it counts. FWIW I honestly wanted to swap in time but I guess I didn't type it fast enough.

No point posting until the hosts do the night 2 post though.

Kinda disappointed to see that nothing has happened in the 20 mins I was away
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 02:13 GMT
#585
o_o

I don't even know anymore.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 15:25 GMT
#615
There are currently 7 living players:

Zare
Cake
Sn0
Acid
Cora
Slay
Glurio

Of these, 3 are confirmed town: Me, Cora, Zare (as awkward as that is).

Then, Slayalot can *only* be scum if glurio also is (since him being scum means the whole wagon on him was town I assume).

Then we have Cake/Glurio (who have minimal contributions to their names) and Acid, whose play was awful right up to ~2hours to lynch yesterday, when he completely changed.

The history of those 4 players, their interactions etc is what I will be reviewing today.

Keep in mind that at 7 survivors, 6 after NK tonight, 5 after lynch tomorrow, 4 after NK tomorrow, we MUST get a scum in that time or else they win. The only other option is to vote no-lynch tomorrow to reduce it to 5 after 2 NKs but that is only marginally helpful, since It isn't hard to determine the 5 survivors (only 1 will be me/cora/zare, our confirmed town, anyway).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 15:35 GMT
#618
On February 01 2013 00:31 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 00:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Of these, 3 are confirmed town: Me, Cora, Zare (as awkward as that is).

Good list, but bear with me for a second -- what awkwardness do you mean?


Most of my confirmed town list spent the last lynch spewing hate and vitriol at each other...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 15:38 GMT
#619
On February 01 2013 00:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 00:31 zarepath wrote:
On February 01 2013 00:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Of these, 3 are confirmed town: Me, Cora, Zare (as awkward as that is).

Good list, but bear with me for a second -- what awkwardness do you mean?


Most of my confirmed town list spent the last lynch spewing hate and vitriol at each other...

Plus you and cora still hate each other rofl.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 15:42 GMT
#620
Basically, its now up to Cakepie, Slay and Glurio to step up and contribute or else we are stuck with just a shot in the dark at them/acid. Which is 50/50 odds, but I don't like 50/50 odds. I wanna nail scum.

The worst part of this is how badly we have botched what is IMO the strongest possible town setup. (Currently I'm mad at cora for playing so scummy I had to save his ass plus he is so scummy it makes my claim look dubious... T_T)

After poking through filters, Slay says nothing (duh), Glurio says nothing (even less than I thought he did, actually), and Cakepie is pretty new.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 16:13 GMT
#622
On February 01 2013 01:02 zarepath wrote:
Start with the people who voted to kill the medic, obviously. We have votes to analyze, not just filters.

Glurio and Slay seem like the most obvious places to start. Cakepie voted for Slay, so if we vote for Slay and he flips scum, we've cleared cakepie. If we vote for Slay and he flips town, then Glurio looks more scummy for being the only unconfirmed town who voted for warbaby.

I think lynching Slay is the best way to go at it.


You are convinced acid can't be scum?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 16:26 GMT
#625
To clarify my question above:

If I were scum, I'd avoid having my name associated with the medic lynch. No need to lynch the medic (once he has claimed) since you can just NK him instead from safety. The only reason to lynch the medic is for convenience, but if I were scum I'd rather not blow my cover by swapping votes or casting a hammer vote. This, of course, is assuming both horses in the race were town. If Slay was scum, then obviously they are on the "vote anybody but slay" plan once he becomes a candidate.

The primary reason for this is, well, exactly what you just posted. Everybody who voted the medic is suspect, so avoid suspicion at all costs. The difficult part, then becomes making your vote LOOK sensible. Slay did this by voting somebody who town was on, then going completely AFK. Glurio actually justified himself based on me (ouch). Cakepie believed the medic claim (which I guess in hindsight I should have as well) so he voted "the other train". Acid was on some crazy "anything but warbaby" lynch mob, but obviously he was in the right in this case.

I admit, that keeps slay looking pretty scummy. I'd still like more content from Cake/Glurio/Slay if possible to look at.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 16:28 GMT
#626
On February 01 2013 01:22 cakepie wrote:
Guys, don't automatically assume that scum will kill the cop claim and leave us with two confirmed townies.


I'm playing based off of that assumption. If it changes then I'll be around to change my play, but if it doesn't then my play is justified right now.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 16:42 GMT
#627
On January 31 2013 09:24 cakepie wrote:
What do you guys think of as the better alternative, glurio or slayalot?

I was willing to get behind warbaby's vote on glurio, but things moved too quickly.
(Basis: voting patterns)

In any case I am not willing to be on either the cora or warbaby wagons.


This post occured shortly after my cop claim. I'd like to highlight it. At this point there were (I think, since we didn't have any votecounts) 4 on warbaby, 3 on Cora, 1 on Slay. Or something similar. Actually, Cakepie may have not voted at all, leaving it at 4-3 at that stage. Either way, I'd like to point out that right about here is where a scum would have done something like "OMFG LOOK AT DAT WARBABY SCUMMY AS HELL LETS VOTE HIM". Not being willing to be on a wagon is very townie. Scum are generally desperate for easy wagons to park their vote on, especially when warbaby and cora are both town.

This actually narrows it down to (IMO) 3 possible scum candidates right now: Acid, Glurio and Slay.

Now, if Slay is mafia, then so must be glurio (otherwise the votes make no sense, why would acid lynch a scumbuddy when he could totally have hammered WB with ease?.

If slay is NOT mafia, then acid and glurio are the scumteam. EITHER WAY, GLURIO IS SCUM.

As far as I'm concerned, Glurio is scum.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 16:57 GMT
#628
Okay maybe the read on cakepie is a little strong to base on just 1 post, but I thought that post was very indicative of his overall play.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 19:45 GMT
#635
On February 01 2013 04:10 cakepie wrote:What is it with all you guys, can't take responsibility for your votes?


I'm happy to take responsibility for my vote. I tried to switch last minute but in hindsight I'm not sure I should have tried. Sure, I regret the medic is dead but town FINALLY has some clarity here. If we lynch slayalot (and he wasn't scum) then unless warbaby is NK'd there is still a bunch of confusion in town (IMO).

Now its easy. Glurio is scum, since there are 4 candidates, cake is clean, and Acid/Slay is not a scumteam that makes sense.

Also, I wish to point out Glurio's hilarious 180 OMGUS on me. Admittedly, I 180'd on him but my read was fairly baseless.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 22:18 GMT
#637
Well at least you are posting, now that the spotlight is turning to you. A very noticable difference from the rest of the game. I feel like I hit a nerve here.

You might need to figure out a way to explain my votes yesterday before you call me scum though.

IF I'm scum, I have 1 (one) scumbuddy. Who is that? First off, I go WAY out of my way to save Corazon (and in the process commit near-suicide if there is a counter-cop claim). So my scumbuddy would be Corazon then right? Okay, so then why do I resist the swap over to slayalot so hard? Scum are happy to swap horses in a 2-town race.

Hell, If I'm scum, I take the deal offered me where medic protects me tonight and I (obviously) kill medic with night action (as expected no matter who scum is) and then its down to 6 only I now have this invincible cop claim and *can't* lose. The only way I don't do that is if Slay is my scumbuddy, but then I don't cop claim to save Cora 2 hours earlier.

It's bullshit glurio, but I applaud your ability to step up your game. I hadn't expected it of you, but doing it now is a bit of a giveaway that you are feeling threatened as scum. Your entire defense up until now was that... you were incapable of making arguments like this rofl.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 22:33 GMT
#639
Glurio is scum. He contributes *nothing* then insta-pipes up as soon as it becomes clear he might be in suspicion and starts bringing out the big analysis and shit. Thats scummy, last I checked. I mean, he never even made "I have no time" excuses he just straight up lurked for free, and I gave him a free pass as a dumbass. Now he feels the need to take control and make the big reads?

Plus I already showed how it has to be him by logic.

Also, I didn't defend you most of the game. Only since the beginning of Day 2 when I got my check back on u. Look before that.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 22:47 GMT
#641
On February 01 2013 07:42 cDgCorazon wrote:
Well Day 2 comprises most of the game because D1 was a bigger penis competition between Acid and WB and we voted a lurker.


K say I'm scum. Why do I cop claim to save you?

Rofl. Clearly that isn't the case, since YOU know you are town.

Now, a cop claim WOULD be safe if the scum role-cop found a JK, but we have already established that the utter lack of JK in this game makes that impossible (plus I'm cop, so we can't have a JK).

I wish people would think these things through. Warbaby died to give clarity to this game guys... don't toss that away.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 00:11 GMT
#643
On February 01 2013 09:05 zarepath wrote:
Deadline is in less than an hour, yes?


Yeah.

In case it isn't clear, my "last will" is that

a) cora and zare are both confirmed town, and cakepie is not far behind

b) as a result of A, glurio is scum
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 00:59 GMT
#647
Night action:

I'm checking acid because he's the loose cannon. Glurio *is* scum, acid is unknown, along with slay.

I feel like a cleared acid is very powerful, and if hes scum then gg.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 01:12 GMT
#655
Town.

BRB SUPPER
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