EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXXVI - Page 2
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
Well thats pleasant distraction of an insult, followed up by a complement. Good play..? Mocsta: P.S. Congrats on recognising the (in)famous distinctions.. Thats impressive haha @mocsta So when and why did you change the subtle distinction from Famous to (in)famous, and based on what new information? That is the question, is this English simple enough? + Show Spoiler + BTW apologies tot he community for the impudence of this question, it twanged a recognition nerve. it is probably nothing, but I am going to shake the tree and see what falls out. So far evasion. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On January 15 2013 18:37 DarthPunk wrote: I have this theory that axle is really fucking smart and just laughs at us as we carry on being not smart. I found a quote on here recently that is seemingly highly appropriate. "People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES I suspect you have an hypothesis (not a theory), based on incomplete data, and even that is incongruous with the reality of my win rate or the accuracy of my recent reads. [edit this para a fair bit.] I do laugh a lot but way more often at me, cos to me I am funnier(more peculiar) than you, but that is probably because i know more about me than you. Besides laughing at people who or because they are less than you is mean. :P I am not mean. edit: actually it wasnt fair what I meant its tricky little sucker of a thought. If you tell me more about yourself I will try to laugh with you, at you, more often. Fair? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 15 2013 14:36 kushm4sta wrote: my punishment is to be demoted to newbie games again oh no /in Not funny. Welcome to TL mafia warbaby. If you have any questions about rules or anything feel free to ask. Don't be afraid to use our lovely coaches | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On January 15 2013 21:25 marvellosity wrote: I love that Axle is grilling someone pre-game ^^ Shut up and get your archon back | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
I realize I have a lot more basic stuff to learn before worrying about minutiae like this. After reading the OP and a few guides/game analyses, these are the only points that aren't 100% clear. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On January 16 2013 05:04 warbaby wrote: Thank you Stutters! I do have some minor questions about the setup. The ms C9++ wiki includes the possibility of a single mason (innocent child). Is that true for this game? I'm also a little confused since the wiki does not include JK and miller in C9++. Can JK be 1-shot like cop/doctor/vig? I realize I have a lot more basic stuff to learn before worrying about minutiae like this. After reading the OP and a few guides/game analyses, these are the only points that aren't 100% clear. I'm not the host, but the op says: "all the possible roles are given but the number of each is not known. Not all of the roles will necessarily be present." So all the roles in the game come from the list provided in the OP. You just know which ones or how many of each there may be. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
This set up doesn't use one shot roles besides vig. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On January 16 2013 05:35 Promethelax wrote: On TL we use miller instead so innocent child. This set up doesn't use one shot roles besides vig. OK, but... On January 15 2013 05:35 Stutters695 wrote: Some of the roles may have limits on the number of times they may be used. "Some" indicates more than one... If what you say is correct, then the OP should be changed to specify that only vig may be 1-shot, especially since standard C9++ can have 1-shot cop, doctor, and roleblocker. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
Oh and Warraby please dont let this pre game banter be worrying, the game does and can get a bit in your face while playing and in some sense, seeing the good humor of it all now, may make that actually easier to understand. If in the game the headlights/spotlight /focus of discussion come on and you feel like you are getting grilled be calm, and that is an excellent time to talk to your coach... again because you already had spoken to your coach several times.... but meh dont listen to me I am noob too, so who should you listen to....ding!!! I know ask your coach who you should ask .... seriously. Pls? Oh sweet, its cool you're not virgin noob like i was. Still talk to your coach anyway. I might :| now. On January 15 2013 21:25 marvellosity wrote: I love that Axle is grilling someone pre-game ^^ Yeah time to get out my old sig.... but, but, He trolled me first.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17532669 :{ I was just flopping around on the beach.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17532589 + Show Spoiler + if anything iw as rubbing salt in the smurfs wounds? It is not my fault he didnt know he would "need a bigger boat" ooh look more infamy.... go me. sigh. Ahhh but i do see a point this pre game of game I am technically eligible to play in.... (as i am not smurf :) + Show Spoiler + (honest injun, BTW is that racial slur (or even non PC) in the US?)( this telling the truth thing, is seriously powerful where most people apparently start at nah thats WIFOM) /obs + Show Spoiler + Sorry Mocsta that was not pre game maneuvering for "control" of town. it was a question. Just a question.... do you have an answer? I understand it may be hard to remember I only just remembered what you said a few days ago was different to what you just did and the discrepancy is in some sens slight even if it reverses in some sense the meaning. Is it for instance your contention you dont know why you said either? (If so word of advice, being sure you know the intention of what you say, is a good thing in Mafia,... ) In the past you described me as Famous, and just recently as (in)famous What new insights or information lead to this change of status. + Show Spoiler + Do note i did the math this is positive sum game out here. Approx 9/16 of the time if we are in the same game we are both town, and 1/16 we are both scum (rough in that I did the math with replacement using 75% town as a guess) Whatever its is more than 50/50 we would be on the same team so you helping me get better out of game is explicitly in your best interests in game.... even purely from a greedy point of view. personally Id like my opponents to get better even more as it is the challenge not the winning that is fun. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
The only thing I'm worried about right now is that it could take a while for this game to fill up! | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On January 16 2013 06:52 warbaby wrote: OK, but... "Some" indicates more than one... If what you say is correct, then the OP should be changed to specify that only vig may be 1-shot, especially since standard C9++ can have 1-shot cop, doctor, and roleblocker. You are right actually and I am wrong. There can be one shot uses of other roles. This is based on a more standard c9++ than we usually use. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On January 16 2013 08:36 warbaby wrote: Thanks Axle, I will definitely try to use my coach as much as possible. I feel like I have a decent grasp on the rules and mechanics, but that's far from being able to actually play skillfully. The only thing I'm worried about right now is that it could take a while for this game to fill up! it will probably get a significant boost when the previous nooby ends. Quite a few of those are still low game count players. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX GAK: deletia on ongoing game status info. So mmmmm on anything you see Ok? However a quick check by yourself that you keep to to yourself... will let you determine when that one may or may not ever end. (yeah never end is a not a likely outcome... but as its an ongoing game I am Sergeant Shultz and so "I know nuffink" + Show Spoiler [for the younguns, who also cant use go…] + | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 16 2013 05:04 warbaby wrote: Thank you Stutters! I do have some minor questions about the setup. The ms C9++ wiki includes the possibility of a single mason (innocent child). Is that true for this game? I'm also a little confused since the wiki does not include JK and miller in C9++. Can JK be 1-shot like cop/doctor/vig? I realize I have a lot more basic stuff to learn before worrying about minutiae like this. After reading the OP and a few guides/game analyses, these are the only points that aren't 100% clear. I like this guy already ^^ | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Personal coach Djo will take care of this one. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On January 16 2013 09:19 Promethelax wrote: axle, why haven't you joined this game? I really wanna see you play again. You have done a pretty good job of figuring out how mafia works and I would love to see it first hand! So Sign up for LIX.... I have been working on my campaign speech to not be elected mayor for several days. yes i have (Axle'ized) policies (I think, they still need polish) and a speech with the express intention of being sure I am not mayor. (Being mayor (the three votes bit) directly contradicts the probable effectiveness of the policies... So I should not be!) (you had better have your reason not to be mayor lined up or I am gunna vote you, or marv or whoever does not step back far enough.) yes I have tldr versions of the policies for those that cant or wont read. Are you sure about this estimate? "You have done a pretty good job of figuring out how mafia works" I thought I was still much closer to figuring out exactly how Mafia does not work... Soon as I can achieve 100% inaccuracy with my reads where upon i plan to invert my Meta and pwn. Finally a moral my father told me... about false senses of security, be careful when I ask questions... the first two are fine... watch out for the third. (except as this is now advanced mafia it might be the fourth... depends how deep a hole i think I need you to dig before I fill it in on top of you.  Mwahh <3 & XX | ||
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