EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXXVI - Page 40
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
I'm not saying I'm good, I was just hoping we were done calling each other bad for now  . I didn't mean to imply you were bad for lynching me -- it sounds like you understand what it feels like to be (potentially) mislynched for rather silly reasons. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
So I just put my trust in my only town read (working on the assumption that due to no double-modkill/warn that scum had indeed made a kill that I had saved). I had already tried to make a cases on a few people but nobody was interested. Zare stuck his neck out there to make a case on somebody other than me, that wasn't full of OMGUS and random sillyness, so I sheeped him. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 03 2013 16:07 Mocsta wrote: hehe Corazon, sounded like that was cathartic for you to write. It turned from explaining why I suck as town to an analysis of why I did everything. This game was really frustrating... | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 03 2013 15:29 warbaby wrote: I'd appreciate it if you'd stop calling me bad. I'm not the one that lynched me for ridiculously bad reasons. Not trying to hate, but from my perspective you had a few key scummy points that you may wish to remove from your future play. (that, along with some admittedly awful other reasons, made us lynch you). 1) "emotion hooks". I don't really know what to call this, but in your effort to get town talking, there was a lot of personal stuff that clouded intelligent judgement in favour of emotional perceptions. This is the biggest thing that reminded me of Mocsta, and probably the root of the lynch. 2) Initial Town Claim etc. Again, maybe this is unconventional of me but anybody that tries *that hard* to look townie through direct or near-direct claims looks like they are faking it. Town acts town, Scum claims town. 3) dat medic soft claim. I'm aware you know the issue here, but I had to mention it. To be fair to you, I don't think what you did makes any sense from a scum perspective either but it just sat so wrong. Obviously in hindsight lynching the uncontested medic claim, when we know there isn't a JK (no RB claim) and we also know that the night-kill was blocked, is nothing short of retarded. It did bring a lot of clarity (for me at least). Other Thoughts: I still maintain that scum should have killed me Night 2. Zare/Cora as confirmed town is IMO preferable to 3 confirmed town hinging on a "who is more believable" contest between glurio and I, but I could be wrong. I certainly understood what you did and why you did it. I'd also like to point out that I legitimately tried to change my vote last-second day 2, but I was a hair too late. Cakepie played town like an instrument and I kinda feel like his "newbie refund" is pretty unecessary IMO. I cant exactly judge, but I'd say he can play in the "big leagues". @Cora: I really would have voted for you day 2 if I hadn't night checked you. I'm now too lazy to go through the game for examples, and obviously after everything played out it would have been foolish to lynch you (especially day 3), but day 2 I would have voted you if that was the lynch we decided on. I also mentioned this earlier (I think) but this setup looks ridiculously town favoured, although I'll admit that the medic save working Night 1 is not gonna be that common. And I guess my cop claim was pretty lucky for me (in the end) because scum would have killed me if I hadn't claimed (funnily enough). Either way, most of town played like shit (shoutout to cake who didn't imo) and we still won. It's a shame Slay got modkilled but we basically knew he was scum anyway. I'm interested in hearing the analysis of others. Obs QT had me laughing out loud at times, although it wasn't nearly as long as last game. I'd say I've learned a lot already, and I expect more knowledge bombs to drop from this game so thanks all | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
The fact that you left your vote on me D2 is lamentable, Corazon, but I think your earlier contributions helped set the stage for the D2 end developments. You showed me why I was being such an idiot for voting Acid~, for example. And our sparring gave me a town read on you, which was really useful. The fact that sn0 failed to change his vote by <60 seconds and win the game is far more lamentable than anything you did in this game, IMO. Yes I was very frustrated at times too, but I also had a lot of fun | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On February 03 2013 16:10 Sn0_Man wrote: 2) Initial Town Claim etc. Again, maybe this is unconventional of me but anybody that tries *that hard* to look townie through direct or near-direct claims looks like they are faking it. Town acts town, Scum claims town. Dunno about that as a heuristic. If anything, scum are aware that play is frowned upon and are less likely to do it. I can see plenty of motivations (town or scum) to claim town. Im not saying its a good play; im just saying I can see why people - in particular fresh talent - could see that as a good play. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
That basically sums up how I feel about this game. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
either way, I think it was marv who said he would be providing some critiques of the game. Should be a worthwhile read. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 03 2013 16:10 Sn0_Man wrote: I cant exactly judge, but I'd say he can play in the "big leagues". IIRC you aren't actually required to play any newbie games to join most of the regular games (Nomination Mafia has special rules in this regard). I agree with you about cakepie, though. | ||
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Slayalot
Denmark15 Posts
I didn't have the option to come home and vote yesterday.. But it's kinda of a good thing that it wouldn't have changed the result. Imagine that the score was 2-2  what potential drama.Thanks for showing this game to me. And for the record. The whole "I didn't know the game would require that much time.. I don't have the time to play the game, so I have to lurk" was genuine. (I would never enjoy winning a game based upon a lie like that) P.s. Why are you guys playing newbie games ?? It seems to me that you should be playing normal or expert games. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
I really like coaching newbie games and I feel pretty friendly with this crop of newbies but when I have to keep deleting PMs that I almost sent to townies it's a problem. You guys hurt yourselves way more than necessary. | ||
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JacobStrangelove
Australia1572 Posts
For instance Sno knew the game was solved but you can't relax right then you have to convince everyone you know are town why it's right. If you ground it into them there is no possibility for error. | ||
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