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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 06:32 GMT
#501
sloosh I don't see what's necessarily scummy about the stuff you pointed out. people can have conflicting alignment connection theory ideas if they don't know who is scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 06:33 GMT
#502
Hmmm, maybe I'm not being blunt enough.

##Unvote: Xatalos
##Vote: Promethelax
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 06:35 GMT
#503
On January 14 2013 15:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
sloosh I don't see what's necessarily scummy about the stuff you pointed out. people can have conflicting alignment connection theory ideas if they don't know who is scum

Yea but there is a basis for each conclusion you make. Maybe a certain post makes you think a player is more townie than you thought, maybe a certain case makes you think a player is more scummy than you thought. Prom swapped and I'm saying there isn't anything to base that swap, which is a scum thing to do, because they already know the alignments and can screw up like that.

Do you see sufficient reason for Prom to decide to swap his read like that?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 06:36 GMT
#504
On January 14 2013 15:28 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Xatalos

No idea why I haven't done this yet. Moving on:



@ Thrawn

The stuff on SloOsh doesn't make any sense. The second quote only suggests that he's relatively unfamiliar with his play, and not completely unfamiliar. The quotes make perfect sense with one another.

Also, why are you chainsaw defending Xata? You were suspicious of him earlier...
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
the reasons I think xatalos could be scum

he's defending kush.... scum do that a lot
he's pushing jay.....scum do that a lot
he's participating in a lot of discussion that isn't related to scumhunting, it looks like he's arguing for the sake of arguing
i don't detect real suspicion in any of his posts

he's spending way too much time defending people and I don't think he's actually suspicious of anything


And now you're busy chainsaw defending him. Do you think Xata is town? Because he hasn't appeared in any of your "lynch lists"



Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 14:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's new and improved lynch list:

sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless

i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum


Why do you think I'm scum? You've been talking a ton about how you think my play is "off," but you haven't substantiated it at all.



eh, you or hopeless are the wildcards on that list. both of you, and especially you, are based on some tentative association theory stuff going on in my head that i'd rather not discuss atm. and wtf? i've been talking a ton about how your play is off? you misquote me sir, explain plz


Do discuss this, because you're suggesting lynching me on mysterious preflip "associations", which is absolutely retarded.

Oh as for the "off" stuff, I confused one of MrZ's posts with one of yours. Too many open tabs, and too little sleep


idk about xata atm. there's been stuff in his filter that goes both ways. but the amount of stuff that might make him scum is nowhere near as large as stuff I have on my top scumreads.

and no, I'm not suggesting lynching you. did I say that?

like, fuck. i'm going to start keeping tally of how many times you misquote/say things that aren't true
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 06:37 GMT
#505
Sleeping now, and if it isn't clear I think Prom is scum and prefer him over Xatalos.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 06:40 GMT
#506
good night. sorry if i was rude. your last posts helped a lot.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 06:41 GMT
#507
On January 14 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 15:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
sloosh I don't see what's necessarily scummy about the stuff you pointed out. people can have conflicting alignment connection theory ideas if they don't know who is scum

Yea but there is a basis for each conclusion you make. Maybe a certain post makes you think a player is more townie than you thought, maybe a certain case makes you think a player is more scummy than you thought. Prom swapped and I'm saying there isn't anything to base that swap, which is a scum thing to do, because they already know the alignments and can screw up like that.

Do you see sufficient reason for Prom to decide to swap his read like that?


I don't see the "swapping" you are talking about. Like I said earlier, when people are town they can have conflicting reads because they don't know alignments.

Are you making an issue of him disliking your case on xata, and at the same time thinking xata is scummy? I don't see how those have to be conflicting ideas. He could have thought that xata is scum, but that you made a weak case. Is that a scummy thing to think? I don't see it.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 06:44 GMT
#508
On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?


you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name.

and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly


you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.

Sloosh, what changed is that I reread the thread, looked into Xat's past and changed my mind. I at first thought he was a scummy looking dude who is always scummy (see Jay) even when town. On looking into him more as a player I decided that his play this game is different from his past, town, games. I knew that since I had earlier stated that I would not vote xat so I used that to pressure you and Hapa to give reasons for your read and to provide a better way for me to read both of you.

SS I'm trying really hard to not call anyone fucking stupid. You are making that resolution very hard.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 06:45 GMT
#509
Oh woah that Prome stuff looks really really bad. And I don't think you even highlighted the worst part about it:

On January 14 2013 06:59 Promethelax wrote:
SloOsh's points on you super are exactly why I am reluctant to vote him, he has accurately expressed the thought I have with your play. It is useless bullshit. While his case was weak it had some merit, even though I won't be voting X today. It had some merit means that he clearly was trying to actively push his lynch and, based on the post Bugs pulled up regarding his interaction with Hapa, was clearly involved with the thread while present.


Post number one, the bolded is a really typical scum wishy-washy stance.
1) ...case is weak...
2) ... but it has SOME merit...
3) ... but meh I'm not going to vote him...

On January 14 2013 10:36 Promethelax wrote:
'my side' of this issue is the same as yours. I find Xata scummy, I jsut wanted to get better reads on both you and hapa and your targeting fo Xat was a great way to do it.

In paranoia Xat is wishy washy and terrible but he is also very try-hard, as he was in british. He I'm not getting that same vibe here and I am happy to lynch him today. My short list of lynchables (like lunchables but with more murder) are Xatalos, Ruuch, SuperSoft and another dude. We'll talk about him later.


But then the bolded is a huge WTF. Prome doesn't want to lynch him, questioned SloOsh and I, called SloOsh's case weak, and now all of a sudden is happy to lynch Xata. That's complete BS.

Mind you, prome is CONVINCED that SuperSoft is scum:
On January 14 2013 09:02 Promethelax wrote:
Hey Hapa y u so scum?

okay now that is out of my system, what do you make of SS? Is there any reason to take him as town? I can't find a single one.

Are you still looking at Xat as scum? If not he who?


He can't find a single reason why SuperSoft is town. Yet despite this and SloOsh's "weak" case, he's all of a sudden OK with lynching Xatalos and Ruuch.

##Unvote
##Vote Promethelax
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 06:47 GMT
#510
On January 14 2013 15:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 15:28 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Xatalos

No idea why I haven't done this yet. Moving on:



@ Thrawn

The stuff on SloOsh doesn't make any sense. The second quote only suggests that he's relatively unfamiliar with his play, and not completely unfamiliar. The quotes make perfect sense with one another.

Also, why are you chainsaw defending Xata? You were suspicious of him earlier...
On January 13 2013 11:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
the reasons I think xatalos could be scum

he's defending kush.... scum do that a lot
he's pushing jay.....scum do that a lot
he's participating in a lot of discussion that isn't related to scumhunting, it looks like he's arguing for the sake of arguing
i don't detect real suspicion in any of his posts

he's spending way too much time defending people and I don't think he's actually suspicious of anything


And now you're busy chainsaw defending him. Do you think Xata is town? Because he hasn't appeared in any of your "lynch lists"



On January 14 2013 14:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:45 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's new and improved lynch list:

sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless

i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum


Why do you think I'm scum? You've been talking a ton about how you think my play is "off," but you haven't substantiated it at all.



eh, you or hopeless are the wildcards on that list. both of you, and especially you, are based on some tentative association theory stuff going on in my head that i'd rather not discuss atm. and wtf? i've been talking a ton about how your play is off? you misquote me sir, explain plz


Do discuss this, because you're suggesting lynching me on mysterious preflip "associations", which is absolutely retarded.

Oh as for the "off" stuff, I confused one of MrZ's posts with one of yours. Too many open tabs, and too little sleep


idk about xata atm. there's been stuff in his filter that goes both ways. but the amount of stuff that might make him scum is nowhere near as large as stuff I have on my top scumreads.

and no, I'm not suggesting lynching you. did I say that?

like, fuck. i'm going to start keeping tally of how many times you misquote/say things that aren't true


When you include my name in a list of 4 players and say that we'd have a 50% chance of lynching scum in that players, that's a suggestion. If it isn't, I don't know what is.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 06:47 GMT
#511
hehe thrawn gj so far on sloosh and wbg. but i see now that bothvare no good lynchtargets for today. we'll figure out their side d2-d3. the fun part about good players is, that they get shot early if they're town.
+ the lynchflip gives us the info we need.
right now i think we should kill prom - what do you think.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 06:53 GMT
#512
On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?


you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name.

and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly


you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.

Sloosh, what changed is that I reread the thread, looked into Xat's past and changed my mind. I at first thought he was a scummy looking dude who is always scummy (see Jay) even when town. On looking into him more as a player I decided that his play this game is different from his past, town, games. I knew that since I had earlier stated that I would not vote xat so I used that to pressure you and Hapa to give reasons for your read and to provide a better way for me to read both of you.

SS I'm trying really hard to not call anyone fucking stupid. You are making that resolution very hard.


Yeah but Prome, what's scummy about your stance on Xatalos is that you have this huge scumread on Supersoft, can't find a single reason that he's town (in your own words), and all of a sudden completely happy with lynching Xatalos. AND Ruuch.

It reads like you don't give a crap about who gets lynched.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 07:08 GMT
#513
I was not convinced by sloosh's case. I don't get how that is your read Haps. I looked back at Xat's past games and some of SS as well.

SS is a giant prick but I'm less comfortable lynching him after looking into his Bureauracracy filter, he is clearly a good player and he clearly likes to be an ass and post shitty one-liners. since that is the case I went to look at other players in this game. Xat stood out as a dude who I didn't know anything about and there was a case on him so I looked at paranioa, he is clearly trying to figure out who scum is and being a try hard little townie. He is not the same here and I am willing to vote him.

SS clearly isn't happening today and thus ##Unvote

I'd like to take a look at our friend the fourth guy I mentioned earlier. I know we should give replacements the BotD but the hell with that, today is day 1 and that isn't much to lose.

Lazer:
He comes in with a promise to read the thread and in one fell swoop fails to do so,
On January 14 2013 05:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hai everyone, I'll read the thread a bit first before making comments on everything ; D.

We are halfway through D1, righty? When is deadline exactly?


followed by

On January 14 2013 07:33 Lazermonkey wrote:
Meh, I ended up playing a game of HoN instead of reading the thread Lol. Anyway, supersoft is playing the scummiest at the moment. No actual scum hunting at all, just grasping at insane straws
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:15 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:11 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:06 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:02 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:01 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow I was going to try hard this game but then prome said what he said now I have to play like shit just to spite him.
~~~
On January 13 2013 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
If Kush goes retard in this game I'll just modkill him

I'll have no qualms about that.

Define full retard.
I will not play illegally that is all I can promise.


The way your entering the thread is terrible your setting the town up for failure.

Its hard enough to play mafia when people are trying there best. If your gonna play like shit and it make it intentionally hard to read you I have no problem lynching you. You looking scummy as it is.

You can step it up, Or get lynched your call.


are you town?

Yes :o


Why do you post this smilie? what was your intention behind it. Do you think it's funny? I want you to say:
I am town.

Brah im town K?


I don't know that. But I am trying to figure it out. If you're town, you should help me with that. Your job as a tonwie is:
1. establish that you're town
2. find scum

If I am scum, it doesn't matter if you explain me the smilie because i already know what you are.
If I am town, it may help me to figure your alignment out.
If you're town, you - as stated above - want me to know your alignment
If you're scum, you don't thus you dodge my attempts to figure you out.
Right now you're dodging.
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:00 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:40 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:37 grush57 wrote:
MR ZENTOR

On January 13 2013 09:09 grush57 wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 MrZentor wrote:
Super, Jay is town. -.-


How do you know he is town?



I can read Jay well.

We're cousins.


i don't buy it. You're scum.

On January 13 2013 09:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
grush is scum imo


worst read ever.

I'll vote Zentor though.
Also, his vote on sloosh is screaming OMGUS out loud.
Show nested quote +
slOosh
calls my stuff BS, hides behind common opinions --
bad case on easy xatalos -
really bad reasoning accusing me ---
I don't see any of these reasons to be scum tells at all.

Other than that, his filter is filled with jokes and ALOT of non commital posts where he is basically saying,'' ow, this play is so strange and anti-town, and it may or may not mean that you are scum''

##Vote: supersoft


I know you are looking at lies in a big way right now thrawn, why don't you point out the glaring lie in these two posts. It doesn't help that LM has sheeped me in his read entirely. When I question him about it he says:
On January 14 2013 07:40 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Prom: I agree with your points. I don't really have any good reads yet besides SS.

which, put through scum translator, reads as BUDDYBUDDYBUDDYBUDDYSHEEPBUDDY

the entire rest of his filter is talking at SS in a way that provides nothing for the thread. He follows that up by vanishing and having made on ly one read the whole game, a sheep case after not reading the thread and excusing himself from having to do so.

Lazer is the scummiest of the guys in my possible lynch catagory and the one whom no one is looking at, Lazer isn't Ruuch and shouldn't get a free day to learn to play in. There is no excuse for this play.

##Vote LazerMonkey
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 07:12 GMT
#514
On January 14 2013 15:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:
On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?


you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name.

and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly


you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.

Sloosh, what changed is that I reread the thread, looked into Xat's past and changed my mind. I at first thought he was a scummy looking dude who is always scummy (see Jay) even when town. On looking into him more as a player I decided that his play this game is different from his past, town, games. I knew that since I had earlier stated that I would not vote xat so I used that to pressure you and Hapa to give reasons for your read and to provide a better way for me to read both of you.

SS I'm trying really hard to not call anyone fucking stupid. You are making that resolution very hard.


Yeah but Prome, what's scummy about your stance on Xatalos is that you have this huge scumread on Supersoft, can't find a single reason that he's town (in your own words), and all of a sudden completely happy with lynching Xatalos. AND Ruuch.

It reads like you don't give a crap about who gets lynched.


I care about who is going to be lynched. I just know that I won't be able to push SS through (it also doesn't help that the other scummiest dude in the thread buddied my case onto him) and after looking at his town play I am less sure than I was.

Scummy list from most scum to lest scum:
Lazer
Xat/SS
Ruuch

list of dudes I think could be lynched day one who are on the previous list, again in order of most likely to least likely:
Xat
Ruuch
Lazer



SS
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 07:14 GMT
#515
On January 14 2013 15:47 supersoft wrote:
hehe thrawn gj so far on sloosh and wbg. but i see now that bothvare no good lynchtargets for today. we'll figure out their side d2-d3. the fun part about good players is, that they get shot early if they're town.
+ the lynchflip gives us the info we need.
right now i think we should kill prom - what do you think.


uh....idk. he seems to be wearing dumb dumb goggles this game and that's unusual. but like....

i actually think i might see what you're getting at by suggesting they aren't good lynch targets, and that prom is a good lynch, but i disagree with that reasoning.

i'll look through his stuff again though


"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 07:17 GMT
#516
thrawn please provide evidence of my dumbdumb goggles and explain why you think that evidence points towards me being dumb
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 07:19 GMT
#517
On January 14 2013 16:12 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 15:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:
On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?


you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name.

and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly


you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.

Sloosh, what changed is that I reread the thread, looked into Xat's past and changed my mind. I at first thought he was a scummy looking dude who is always scummy (see Jay) even when town. On looking into him more as a player I decided that his play this game is different from his past, town, games. I knew that since I had earlier stated that I would not vote xat so I used that to pressure you and Hapa to give reasons for your read and to provide a better way for me to read both of you.

SS I'm trying really hard to not call anyone fucking stupid. You are making that resolution very hard.


Yeah but Prome, what's scummy about your stance on Xatalos is that you have this huge scumread on Supersoft, can't find a single reason that he's town (in your own words), and all of a sudden completely happy with lynching Xatalos. AND Ruuch.

It reads like you don't give a crap about who gets lynched.


I care about who is going to be lynched. I just know that I won't be able to push SS through (it also doesn't help that the other scummiest dude in the thread buddied my case onto him) and after looking at his town play I am less sure than I was.


The problem I'm having is that over the short time you were "pressuring" me and SloOsh, you all of a sudden did a lot of reading and your opinions perfectly matched up with ours. It's awfully convenient. [/Quote]

Scummy list from most scum to lest scum:
Lazer
Xat/SS
Ruuch

list of dudes I think could be lynched day one who are on the previous list, again in order of most likely to least likely:
Xat
Ruuch
Lazer



SS


Wait what?! How on earth is SuperSoft not a likely lynch candidate for today? Hell he's the vote leader right now!
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 07:22 GMT
#518
On January 14 2013 15:44 Promethelax wrote:
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On January 14 2013 14:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?


you could look through my filter and easily figure out why most of the people are on that list. maybe not hapa, that was "sorta" a random name.

and how are you equating that list to me having town reads on lazer and/or super? that doesn't make any sense stop being silly


you have a 'not willing to lynch today read on them. I'd call it the same thing basically. I myself have a six man don't lynch list a three man null list and a four man lynch list. My lynch list is just much better than yours.


prom that is the most dumbest shit i've seen in this thread so far, and on so many levels
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 07:25 GMT
#519
because Hopeless is bad at pushing lynches and Lazer is scummy as shit sheep. That leaves me to push it and, for whatever reason, no one has me as town. If there is consolidation it seems clear that Bugs, You, Thrawn will consolidate away from SS. I don't really want my vote to be a waste today and I have other scum reads tp pressure who I think have a better chance of being lynched and as good (or even better) chance of flipping scum.

I decided my tunnel wasn't so hot and there were better things for me to do day one than pressure a vet who is good as town.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 14 2013 07:26 GMT
#520
well finally prom makes some sense :-)
i am glad your full retardmode ended. i'll reconsider all my reads this afternoon when i have time.
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