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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:02 GMT
#441
Hey Hapa y u so scum?

okay now that is out of my system, what do you make of SS? Is there any reason to take him as town? I can't find a single one.

Are you still looking at Xat as scum? If not he who?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:11 GMT
#442
On January 14 2013 09:02 Promethelax wrote:
Hey Hapa y u so scum?

okay now that is out of my system, what do you make of SS? Is there any reason to take him as town? I can't find a single one.

Are you still looking at Xat as scum? If not he who?


Xat is the guy I'm most interested in right now. It looks like he's blending in with his vote on a random lynch-bait case (Jay) rather than being productive and scumhunting.

I have very conflicting reads on SS, but I'm leaning town on him. Thrawn mentioned that he was a dick in his scum-game in LVIII, but his play seems really over the top for scum. I hate how he's playing it out, but it looks suicidal from a scum-perspective, since he's so willingly ready to make enemies in the thread.

My concern is that he's supposedly an accomplished vet, and I'd expect more from him. However, the OMGUS and violence of his play is indicative of a pissed-off townie.



As far as other reads, I'm more concerned with players avoiding the spotlight right now.

Ruuch peace'd out of the thread and we haven't heard of him for almost a Day. He is a newbie, but he took a lengthy absence from the thread and has had nothing to contribute to the discussion.

Otherwise, nothing very concrete.



a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:16 GMT
#443
@ WBG

On January 14 2013 07:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 07:36 supersoft wrote:
On January 14 2013 07:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm willing to give super a day or so to prove he's town, I'm just wary of lynching him today. Nothing he has done so far is particularly bothering me.

As for kush, I don't feel comfortable lynching someone who was just replaced. It's unfortunate if he actually was scum, but I think the replacement should get some time to establish himself as well.


We do it like that:

I will leave defending me completely to you wbg.

if he fails to defend me and I die, you better lynch him tomorrow.


Nah you can defend yourself. I have better things to do than waste my time defending someone who is capable of defending himself.

I have no interest in lynching you right now but that doesn't mean I necessarily think you are very townie. No one so far in this game has been worth defending.


Who are you interested in lynching right now? Since you took your vote off Kush/Lazer, I have no idea where your suspicions stand.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:26 GMT
#444
hapa, aren't you pressuring weak lynch bait in Xat and Ru? Speaking of players who have vanished for a while what about SloOsh? Why isn't he on your list?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:29 GMT
#445
On January 14 2013 07:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
so uhh..i guess /afk


Waht about this? Two hours after his last post and two hours ago without posting anything else. Is this scum hopeless or scummy town hopeless?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:30 GMT
#446
On January 14 2013 09:26 Promethelax wrote:
hapa, aren't you pressuring weak lynch bait in Xat and Ru? Speaking of players who have vanished for a while what about SloOsh? Why isn't he on your list?


Mostly because I agree with SloOsh on Xata. That and I saw SloOsh play as mafia in Liquid City, in which he was extremely passive. His play so far (even if he's afk) shows a level of assertiveness I associate with his town play.

As far as me going after "lynch-bait," I'm going to go after people I think are scum. I need to chat it up with him and see whats up, because I don't have any reason to think he's town right now 24 hours into the game. And that's a problem.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 14 2013 00:32 GMT
#447
Cakecount:

Hopeless1der (1): grush57
Xatalos (1): slOosh
slOosh (1): supersoft
supersoft (3): Hopeless1der, Promethelax, Lazermonkey
wherebugsgo (1): thrawn2112
jaybrundage (1): Xatalos

Not Voting (5): Hapahauli, jaybrundage, Ruuch, MrZentor, wherebugsgo


Currently, supersoft is set to be lynched!
~23.5 hours left until the deadline.

PM me or Cheese if I counted something incorrectly.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:33 GMT
#448
On January 14 2013 09:29 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 07:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
so uhh..i guess /afk


Waht about this? Two hours after his last post and two hours ago without posting anything else. Is this scum hopeless or scummy town hopeless?


Hopeless was an early-game scumread of mine, but since then, he has done more scumhunting than Xata or ruuch. He has two longer posts that I quite liked, one unvoting grush and the other declaring his scumreads. He's not my concern right now.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:34 GMT
#449
@ Prome

Do you share my sentiments on Xata at all?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 14 2013 00:37 GMT
#450
thrawn's new and improved lynch list:

sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless

i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:44 GMT
#451
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.

Lazer, what are your thoughts on people who are less soft? I know you 'agree with everything I say' but what about thinking instead of sheeping. How do you see Xat's play and how about SloOsh's?

Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#452
On January 14 2013 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
thrawn's new and improved lynch list:

sloosh/wbg/hapa/hopeless

i'm about 50% confident that randomly lynching into that list will lynch scum


Why do you think I'm scum? You've been talking a ton about how you think my play is "off," but you haven't substantiated it at all.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 00:46 GMT
#453
On January 14 2013 04:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 04:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why is sloosh a better lynch than kush?

Slosh hasn't been around much but he's one of the few players who put effort into pushing a scumread.


that case on xatalos would be VERY easy to make, and it comes at an opportunistic time to make such a case. and apart from that, sloosh doesn't have opinions on other stuff happening in the thread, much like yourself

How does making an easy case devoid it of it's truth value, and what makes it opportunistic, and how do these things make me scum? If I think Xatalos is scum why would I bother commenting on other stuff, especially since no one is actually presenting and pushing for scum?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 14 2013 00:47 GMT
#454
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.

Lazer, what are your thoughts on people who are less soft? I know you 'agree with everything I say' but what about thinking instead of sheeping. How do you see Xat's play and how about SloOsh's?

Thrawn, me no likey your list. Explain it to me, why are each of those four present. Would you really be comfortable lynching any of them? Why do you have a town read on Lazer and SS?


I haven't looked at Paranoia, but I did just finish British Mini Mafia (where both Xata and I were town). In that game, this was Xata's first entrance into the thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112&currentpage=7#136

This game, his scum-hunting efforts pale in comparison to what I've seen in British Mini.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 00:48 GMT
#455
On January 14 2013 09:44 Promethelax wrote:
And as to the case on Xatalos, have you looked at his play in Paranoia? (SloOsh you get to answer this one as well). Hapa I'll tell you what I think after the answer to this.

I looked at his play from Paranoia and a bunch of other ones too, and this game's play looked nothing like his play in former games, either town or scum, which was the cause of the "second guessing" comment I started with. Do you think his meta indicates something about his alignment, particularly his drastic change in playstyle?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 00:55 GMT
#456
what drastic change in playstyle are we talking about here SloOsh? Explain it to me like you want me to understand it.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 01:16 GMT
#457
On January 14 2013 09:55 Promethelax wrote:
what drastic change in playstyle are we talking about here SloOsh? Explain it to me like you want me to understand it.

In this game he waffles around and takes forever to come to a conclusion that jay is scum when British and Paranoia show that he is capable of making conclusions and scum reads. Newbie XV shows that he is comfortable with playing scum (opposed to lurking / timidity that you often see), openly making calls and reads.

It's doesn't matter if you don't see a drastic change in playstyle because my case doesn't use meta, but it does matter if you think something about his meta is alignment telling but that is on your side and not mine to guess. So out with it.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 01:36 GMT
#458
'my side' of this issue is the same as yours. I find Xata scummy, I jsut wanted to get better reads on both you and hapa and your targeting fo Xat was a great way to do it.

In paranoia Xat is wishy washy and terrible but he is also very try-hard, as he was in british. He I'm not getting that same vibe here and I am happy to lynch him today. My short list of lynchables (like lunchables but with more murder) are Xatalos, Ruuch, SuperSoft and another dude. We'll talk about him later.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 14 2013 01:41 GMT
#459
Earlier on you said you won't be voting Xatalos today. Is this because relative to supersoft you do not find Xatalos as scummy?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 14 2013 01:44 GMT
#460
It is because I hadn't read through his other games very closely. I looked at his play in British and in Paranoia and thought about it some more.

At the time yes I found SS the scummiest, I was not comfortable voting someone who I knew had gotten mislynched in Brit for being kinda scummy looking. Now I am comfortable voting him today; though I'd like to hear more from him.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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