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On January 14 2013 07:36 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 07:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm willing to give super a day or so to prove he's town, I'm just wary of lynching him today. Nothing he has done so far is particularly bothering me.
As for kush, I don't feel comfortable lynching someone who was just replaced. It's unfortunate if he actually was scum, but I think the replacement should get some time to establish himself as well. We do it like that: I will leave defending me completely to you wbg. if he fails to defend me and I die, you better lynch him tomorrow.
Nah you can defend yourself. I have better things to do than waste my time defending someone who is capable of defending himself.
I have no interest in lynching you right now but that doesn't mean I necessarily think you are very townie. No one so far in this game has been worth defending.
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On January 13 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 14:28 Xatalos wrote:
Actually (@Jay) you haven't done anything meaningful after accusing Kushm4sta as scummy for his anti-town entrance. You have a lot of fluff in your filter, though. But that's actually worse than having nothing in its place. MrZentor keeps saying you're town for your spamminess, but that's not too hard for Mafia with some experience and knowledge to fake. All you have to do to keep MrZentor off you is to post something a lot, no matter how thought-out it is. I'm on the border of voting you right now based on this very early game alone. Prove me wrong. Start by scumhunting. Da fuck I have been scum hunting have you read my filter. I was pressuring Supersoft, and defending a town read I have. Dont throw baseless accusations at me. Atm your looking kinda scummy you ask questions in the thread never draw any conclusions about the things you ask. You have a scum read on Kush and then when he changes his read on Mr.Zentor you say that hes too scummy to be scum hes town. ????? dafuq Thats after a single fucking small post. You got lynched last game day one for you 180's that make no damn sense and your doing them again this game. The only thing that make's me hesitate to lynch you is that your such giant lynch bait. I also am not sure about Kush both of you guys have such fluctuating reads. Kush goes from this guy is scum vote. To oh wait ok hes not scum. To explaining why hes prolly not scum to being scum again. Like is this normal?
I'm trying to find any actual scumhunting in your filter, but it's just not there.
- You called Kush scummy for entering the thread in an anti-town fashion (extremely easy to attack a controversial player like that, and you never pursued this read anyway - you even corrected that his play was anti-town and not scummy later, so what caused this significant change of wording?)
- You called supersoft useless (not scummy though - this stab at supersoft was extremely unimpactful, weak and definitely neither pressure nor scumhunting, it achieved nothing for the thread)
And now you actually freak out and start accusing me suddenly. Is the pressure too much? Why would a townie react like that? I bet it's because you're scum and desperate to get off this situation. Combined with your absolute lack of effort to progress scumhunting so far, you're a very decent lynch at the moment.
##Vote jaybrundage
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supersoft
grush57
I am town. +
"How do you know?
scum with supersoft hmm?" ++
thrawn2112
- refused to say he's town
"yes, i wonder this as well" lol. yeah sure. i dont buy it.
"it'd be fun to be a scumteam again, skyping was more fun than posting in the real thread in that game" - pointless ---
"no/yes of course, duh"
-votes sloosh
good case on sloosh. ++
catches wbgs bad case +
Hapahauli
stupid spammer townie ++
annoys me
still annoys me with his pointless question about that possible scumslip of zentor.
MrZentor
"Super, Jay is town. -.-" scumslip ?
is the older cousin. defend is naturally - how does he know he's town, is still the question
says he can read jay because of one post of his --
wrong thought about what scum does and what not.
confuses kush and jay even though jay is his cousin?
makes good jokes and sees that wbg is strange ++
reads me well +
if town, not a terrible player as all the others.
Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there.
Xatalos
understands me +
jaybrundage
zentor says hes town +
Ruuch
newbie
Hopeless1der
I am town. + excuse -
wherebugsgo
talks to me -/+
decent list +
bad case - i pointed it out nicely in my post, marked things red and said i don't like it. truth is: I fucking hate this shit. did someone cut off his balls or what? Since when does it matter what others think in this context. Doest make any sense.
terrible scumreads, abandoned prom?! Why on earth
doesnt defend me, even though talks to me all the time.
Overall no way to be town meta
Promethelax
pointless questions, didnt read --
terrible case on me, defending his scumbuddy sloosh
case contains one quote of myself. extremely fake or extremely terrible.
Either stupid as shit or scum.
slOosh
calls my stuff BS, hides behind common opinions --
bad case on easy xatalos -
really bad reasoning accusing me ---
I am too lazy to add colors.
go to bed now.
+ i may have overexaggerated some rankings... Zentor may be too high.
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wbg is the only one who ever outed me as scum,
wbg never accused me when i was town.
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Damn it, I just have to get some sleep now (5 hours until wakeup to work). Going to reread the thread tomorrow and figure out some other players.
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Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there. Lol. So much OMGUS in this game. Can people actually try to hunt scum and NOT retards?
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On January 14 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there. Lol. So much OMGUS in this game. Can people actually try to hunt scum and NOT retards?
*you're ranked pretty high. I actually think you're a retard and not scum :-)
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Okay, Well I'm not scum at least so that's a good start. Care to explain why the suspicion against you is wrong and why my ''case'' is ridiculous?
So, you write like 7 minuses on me, and yet I am probebly not scum? How is this list even relevant at all in that case?
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You dont understand my list: You didnt read my other list: You didn't read me: Your case against me is ridiculous.
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Supersoft, either you why are you spending time OMGUS me for no reason other than the fact that I have a scum read on you. Can you explain how I'm supposed to read your list then(because, I did read them both...). You are not helping us in any way by posting crap like this.
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@ Xatalos
On January 14 2013 07:22 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 15:08 Hapahauli wrote:Oooh, thread blew up while I was gone =O @ MrZI don't think it's good to give Kush a town read based on the 180. If it was another player, I'd agree with you, but Kush is some who doesn't mind the spotlight at-all as scum. I don't know what to think of him yet, and I'm going to wait until I see his scumhunting before I make a judgement. @ SupersoftHave you looked into MrZ's meta at all? Because those early-game town reads are super-normal for him. Also, please reply to my previous post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=6#119Regarding XatalosHis interaction with MrZ regarding Kush looks super-duper sketchy. He's balls-out convinced that Kush's 180 was scummy, then backs down to a "townish" read when confronted by MrZ. That, and he's been soft-defending a few players early in the game. His soft-defense of supersoft in particular reads as very forced: On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote:On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:
-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless
##unvote
Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.
A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.
What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless? Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction? I'm generally hesitant about him given that I mislynched him in British Mini Mafia for his "wishy-washiness," but his filter doesn't look very good right now. Well, you already removed your first argument, so how did that affect your scumread on me? And I already explained that "soft defense" (stating a simple point about his probable intentions) in my previous post. How did that affect your read? I'm actually surprised how weak this reasoning is for your #1 scumread. Is that all there is to it?
Talk to me a bit.
The main thing I find scummy about you is your multitude of soft-defenses. The supersoft one I quoted earlier reads as especially strange. Also, you're pushing Jay right now, but pushing lynch-bait is something anyone can do. We were both playing in British Mini, and you saw how he acted. What makes his gameplay different now? I see a lot of similarities - spaminess, etc.
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EBWOP: Supersoft, WHY are you spending time.
Nothing else.
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I need to go to bed now. I will probebly bed far more active tomorrow.
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@ Supersoft
I keep asking you questions and you keep dodging them - whats the deal?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=19#363
Secondly, a lot of your suspicions right now are based on how much you like certain players rather than their scumminess. You think Prome and SloOsh have bad suspicions of you - so what? Townies do that all the time. I don't know what to think of those players yet, but they are far from scumreads for me. SloOsh in particular has an assertiveness about him that I associate with his town play.
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On January 14 2013 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:@ SupersoftI keep asking you questions and you keep dodging them - whats the deal? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=19#363Secondly, a lot of your suspicions right now are based on how much you like certain players rather than their scumminess. You think Prome and SloOsh have bad suspicions of you - so what? Townies do that all the time. I don't know what to think of those players yet, but they are far from scumreads for me. SloOsh in particular has an assertiveness about him that I associate with his town play.
i am ignoring you and not dodging you. I won't answer this completely pointless, useless and stupid question.
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On January 14 2013 08:31 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:@ SupersoftI keep asking you questions and you keep dodging them - whats the deal? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=19#363Secondly, a lot of your suspicions right now are based on how much you like certain players rather than their scumminess. You think Prome and SloOsh have bad suspicions of you - so what? Townies do that all the time. I don't know what to think of those players yet, but they are far from scumreads for me. SloOsh in particular has an assertiveness about him that I associate with his town play. i am ignoring you and not dodging you. I won't answer this completely pointless, useless and stupid question.
Talk to me about your reads then. Because it looks like you've OMGUS'd Prome, WBG, and SloOsh rather than having actual reasons to think that they're scum.
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In particular, why did you downgrade your read on Kush/Lazer so much based on OMGUS? Invalidating a town read based on a bad case is insane, especially on Day 1.
Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there.
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@ Lazermonkey
Is there anything other than Supersoft you can comment on at this point? A lot of crazy things have happened, and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on some other players. In particular, Xatalos, SloOsh, and WBG.
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On January 14 2013 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:In particular, why did you downgrade your read on Kush/Lazer so much based on OMGUS? Invalidating a town read based on a bad case is insane, especially on Day 1. Show nested quote +Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there.
'doh ignore this. I can't read.
On January 14 2013 08:10 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 08:02 Lazermonkey wrote:Kushm4sta now Lazermonkey
pissed because the host said he'd modkill him if he goes retard. ++
buddys me -
funny guy though +
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after the replacement absolutely ridiculous case against me ------------
probably stupid, since he was already really stupid in kurumis game. He was also wrong about me there. Lol. So much OMGUS in this game. Can people actually try to hunt scum and NOT retards? *you're ranked pretty high. I actually think you're a retard and not scum :-)
Other OMGUS things still stand.
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Four posts in a row is pretty bad...
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