[T] MTG Mini Mafia II - Page 96

On February 05 2013 10:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Would love to hear what AS and Suck think we should do both if they're getting killed and what they would do if they're left alive. Also would love to hear from Nova, it feels kind of wrong to not lynch him with his play, but the case against Marv is pretty compelling (especially in contrast to LIX) and I would expect more out of both AS heads than out of Nova in addition to Nova being much less of a threat magic wise it seems.

On February 05 2013 11:03 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Keep flaming, scummer.

Face it, you played like shit this game. Happens.

No need to be a salty asshole about it

On February 05 2013 11:04 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:


no, i played fine. i've only played played badly as mafia once and this isn't it. again, you're a fucking atrocious player, and you always will be.

On February 05 2013 15:52 Nova_Terra wrote:
The point that CH needs to be able to be killed is a valid one, and i worry about that.

On February 05 2013 20:14 Clockwork Hydra wrote:


This is only valid if you think that we are scum. The only reason you think we might be scum is because we have a powerful deck. You, nor anybody else has given a reason to think we're scum.

If we are scum, we have played the most insanely brilliant game ever played by a scum ever. At the same time, we have played the most insanely mindbogglingly stupid game ever played by a scum ever. BOTH AT ONCE.

Here is what we have done as scum:

1. The very first action of Xfire was apparently to write in scumQT: "I am going to claim scum on D2, so what you should do is bus me hardcore from my opening post until I am dead." This will give you town credit. To which we replied "sure buddy, claiming scum is a wonderful idea" and followed the plan through. In fact, we did this so convincingly that Xfire was easily

2. We did this so convincingly that Xfire took out the only (potentially) important card in our graveyard and the main engine of our deck. This effectively stalls our deck from a point where we would have been completely unkillable by town (as in, entirely) and could probably have killed 2 townies singlehandedly in D4, to a point where we are merely strong contenders. The ninjas are getting rolling and Rock will have 2 decently big creatures and a load of shitty ones next turn. Stutters will eventually have a load of fatties and presumably Nova's deck is coming online at some point around now, with finally a changeling hitting the board.

3. When someone came up with a plan for Xfire to live, we panicked and tried to bury it in 1-line spam. Because we don't want our scumbuddy seeing the plan for him to live. When this failed to work because people discussed it instead of burying it, we yelled at SnB for being stupid. Because we, as scum, realize that our scumbuddy living for a day longer would be a terrible blow to our master plan (this was sarcasm).

4. Okay, so all is well again, scumbuddy Xfire is back on track to be dying. We are on our way to the fruition of our masterplan and everybody is planning on killing the guy with the potentially scary combo deck, that might go off in our faces despite our strong creature-based position. We then look at Suck and think "hrmmm, SnB is also good at magic, and he has this incredibly scary Verduran Enchantress out". Furthermore, this combos INCREDIBLY WELL with Words of War, which he has in his hand. He will be able to do 2 entire damage for 2 mana any time he plays an enchantment. With Shimmering Wings (of which I don't even think there's a GRW variant) that would mean 2 damage to anything or anybody for the measly cost of 4 mana.
At least, that is the case I have heard so far for why we are pushing this lynch onto Suck from a scum perspective: "Suck's deck is more powerful". What? Now I don't know how SnB's deck works. It's possible that there is another piece to the combo that will eventually cause that to be a threat. However, that same can be said for Aperture, who seems far more likely to, at some point, just play 15 cards and say "I deal 20 damage to everybody. I win". Furthermore, since when does scum behave like this? Scum doesn't spend all day derailing town plans to possibly kill a guy who looks like he might be a threat in the future. No. They go along with town plans and then kill the threat at night.

5. Just read our filter, okay. Just look at it and see how completely impossible our play would have been from a scum perspective. Even if you think we're wrong about Suck, look at our filter.

TLDR: Don't panic. I know it's scary to be carried. I was super paranoid of Sandroba in SSM when he came up with the plan to "everybody just mass claim to me and I'll carry you all to victory". But after a lot of evaluation I realized it was highly unlikely he was scum and went with it. Now I'm not claiming I can hold a candle to Sandro's town play, but if you take a moment to analyze both Dandel and my play this game you will see that us being scum is completely impossible this game. And that is why you don't need us to be killable.

/Acro

PS: to preempt Zebezt, pointing out why we're town is because apparently nobody is taking our repeated advice to actually read our filter and figure this shit out for themselves and is instead listening to scum Marv's words (when they should just be preparing to kill him).

On February 05 2013 20:46 RockHydra wrote:
ok ok CH
I need to take a chill pill. Although I still think ignoring people with useless scum accusations is more helpful. Doesn't waste so much time. If I had to deal with everybody that had some weird scumfeel about us, I wouldnt have time to scumhunt.

I still think we should lynch nova instead of AS though. At least AS tries to be useful, nova is completely useless. And super suspicious with bullshit about xfire maybe not being scum.

/zebezt

On February 05 2013 11:02 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
yes, but you'll always be a shit mafia player and i will not. so horses for courses

On February 05 2013 11:04 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:


no, i played fine. i've only played played badly as mafia once and this isn't it. again, you're a fucking atrocious player, and you always will be.