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RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
February 04 2013 20:54 GMT
#1861
Hmmm.. DFTP makes alot of sense. I suppose we should double lynch for sure.
I'm just not convinced on the targets yet.

/zebezt
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
February 04 2013 21:01 GMT
#1862
On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ...
Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.

/Acro


hmmm
I disagree with this.
You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait?

/zebezt
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
February 04 2013 21:29 GMT
#1863
On February 05 2013 06:01 RockHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ...
Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.

/Acro


hmmm
I disagree with this.
You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait?

/zebezt

His point is that GreY and I are good at MtG, therefore we would have told Xfire to wait.

At least I think thats it
We do what we must, because we can.
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
February 04 2013 21:36 GMT
#1864
*sigh
Gotta admit. CHs case has some merit to it. Can't say I agree with some points, but others are pretty good.
Marv's defense isn't all that great either.
Marv's defense seemed bad from earlier attacks already (burglars what?)
Does this just mean marv is not good at making sense? Or not making sense under pressure...
I suppose I should check some of marv's earlier games tomorrow to get an idea. Good thing there is so much time left till attacks have to be announced

/zebezt
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
February 04 2013 21:40 GMT
#1865
On February 05 2013 06:29 Aperture Science wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:01 RockHydra wrote:
On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ...
Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.

/Acro


hmmm
I disagree with this.
You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait?

/zebezt

His point is that GreY and I are good at MtG, therefore we would have told Xfire to wait.

At least I think thats it


I think you think wrong.

Anywayz.. I'm off to bed.
Was a pretty exhausting day, and tomorrow is promising not to be much better.

tomorrows todo list: read up on Apertures posts, read earlier games of marv

/zebezt
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 21:40 GMT
#1866
On February 05 2013 06:01 RockHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ...
Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.

/Acro


hmmm
I disagree with this.
You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait?

/zebezt

Because the reason to wait was pretty much gone when SnB said what the board card could do in the thread.

Also, ignore the Aperture case. Kill SuckMyTopDeck.
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 21:57 GMT
#1867
lol Clock that's hilarious

I'll check with Suck again.

Anyways, I don't want Stutters dead at all like until LYLO or until Post-game. With Prome we discussed Nova and I'm not convinced he is scum. I just don't see scum Nova act so non-chalant about his "super derp" of still thinking Xfire could flip town and that shit he did with thinking me/CH were suspicious or some shit.

Well....maybe. Prome thinks marv is town though, and I had that feeling previously with his attitude. Although.....yeah this is not really the town marv I'd expect this game, specially comparing it to LIX, specially considering he has another hydra head to discuss shit and let him post, etc.

I guess my previous prediction could be true: S&B is scum but told marv they are town lolololol

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:03 GMT
#1868
Anyways I could probably just sheep you Clock, I don't want to think that much >_>
When I over-think I tend to fuck town's chances of winning (e.g last MTG game, maybe iGrok's mini, etc) <_<

I do have a feeling we will hilariously fail this game....again

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:06 GMT
#1869
Anyways, I wouldn't mind supporting a "Kill Suck until S&B gets his ass over here and does something" policy.
It's just too convenient considering the last MTG game, and town S&B would figure that out (if you didn't, then I just told you).

Grey "pulled" something similar earlier this game, but at least he came back. I don't know why town S&B would be active early T1, but completely disappear now :X

If he was active before, he had time to play this game.....so why is he completely AFK right now?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:08 GMT
#1870
I may have forgotten about it if marv already said something about it..but still...meh
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:11 GMT
#1871
Hopeless has been kind of absent lately as well (I think). I'd like his thoughts on this whole thing
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:23 GMT
#1872
I do wonder CH, what made you instantly figure out Suck is the scum and Aperture is town? Or was this heavily discussed between Acro/dandel, and you guys had some feelings about this from before?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 22:38 GMT
#1873
On February 05 2013 07:23 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
I do wonder CH, what made you instantly figure out Suck is the scum and Aperture is town? Or was this heavily discussed between Acro/dandel, and you guys had some feelings about this from before?

/G

We spent a lot of today discussing this. Dandel noticed that scum Appy has no sensible reason to offer to fork DD spells. Given that Appy and Suck were our prime scumspects and Appy just dropped off, that left Suck = scum. Marv's reaction to the "Appy is town" case just convinced us further.

/Acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#1874
On February 05 2013 06:57 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
lol Clock that's hilarious


What was hilarious?
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#1875
It is kind of weird how marv doesn't even try to figure out if Appy is town. Every time he pops in is to refute stuff about Aperture being town.

But surely he should see why some people think he may be town for what points right?
marv, why are you SO convinced Aperture is scum, that you don't even acknowledge the possibility of him being town (or rather you don't seem fazed at all by those possibilities), and you don't try to find the "remaining scum" in case he is town?

I skimmed Hero and forgot marv seemed kind of non-chalant there
Hmmm.....questions questions....

I am not sure if we should leave Aperture alive....there's still this thing you see, this thing that tells me "No, don't let him live, if he's scum you just made like the stupidest mistake ever, if he's town we might even still kill him later".

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#1876
On February 05 2013 07:41 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:57 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
lol Clock that's hilarious


What was hilarious?


You posting shit like "DAT SCUMSLIP" and that kind of shit, like if he had claimed scum or something lol
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
February 04 2013 22:52 GMT
#1877
On February 05 2013 07:03 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Anyways I could probably just sheep you Clock, I don't want to think that much >_>
When I over-think I tend to fuck town's chances of winning (e.g last MTG game, maybe iGrok's mini, etc) <_<

I do have a feeling we will hilariously fail this game....again

/G


Marv feels more likely to be town than aperture, but this case actually has me kind of concerned about CH. They've really been milking their Xf case hard for cred all game despite multiple people saying the same things, just without quotes.

This case also feels incredibly oportunistic. Why wait so late to post this case when we've been discussing a double kill all day.

Additionally the discussion with me about door vs anthem. He tells me to make the play that does less for town when town is going to be dropping kp incredibly fast for no reason other than that the game should be over before DoD really gets rolling despite saying in the same post that we have enough kp tokill them both either way. That doesn't sit well with me. I think an AS Suck kill today might be our best bet and if its still going after to look into taking out clock. If he is scum and we hit 2-1 with all his chumps we'd be completely fucked.
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 22:58 GMT
#1878
Well, I agree with that Stutters.

Prome just told me that as well (he's been awake for 28 hours so won't post here just in case)
Kill Aperture and Suck today, and tomorrow (if both were town) focus on Nova and Rock.

I'd add that if there is a tomorrow (i.e both Aperture and Suck flip town), we just take a clean state and consider everybody as possible candidates, including Clock, just in case.

The thing about Clock is that he could have easily keep going against Suck on T1, and could have jumped on my case on Aperture like Suck did, but he just ignored both and decided to 100% kill Xfire
Unless they both planned for Xfire to out himself, then that doesn't make sense at all if he's scum.
There's also the fact that he's been active as shit, and maybe has scumhunted more than me this game. Also both heads are pretty active doing shit, not just 1 while the other one goes AFK or something (like Toad last game).
Also he was the first one that found Xfire and let his fury against him.
Those should count in his favor....right?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
February 04 2013 23:15 GMT
#1879
We aren't town because we made a case on Xfire. We know he was acting super scummy and several people realized it.

However, if you were to click on our filter and read a few of our posts, you would realize how much nonsense your allegation is. Also, we're not "milking the xfire case". We are trying to kill scum.

PS. If you think "milking the xfire case" is scummy, we present scum Marv:

On February 01 2013 09:32 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:28 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Anyways, we can go hunting for the remaining scum

Who here thinks Aperture isn't the remaining scum?

Also, who thinks that CH/me/Rock/Bin could possibly be scum in any way possible (regarding what's happening with Xfire and previous interactions)? Please raise your hand.

/G


Well Nova looks much better now, I'm happy to get off my Burgler tunnel, even if it was the best thing ever. CH obviously looks much better compared to my previous list because of the Crossfire stuff. This obviously leaves a really large line where CH has moved up a lot as well as Nova, and Crossfire moved down.

The first thing I did in this game was agree that Crossfire was scummy and attack Aperture. I'm totes an MTG master.

And he never even made a case on Xfire, just non-committally "agreed" to it. Taking credit for a scum lynch when you didn't do jack shit for it? Hell yeah, sign scum Marv up (this scumtell was brought to you by Dandel Ion, the best Ion).

/Acro
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
February 04 2013 23:28 GMT
#1880
Hey marv, could you get S&B here? I mean, your life depends on it, so you could try, right?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
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