[T] MTG Mini Mafia II - Page 98

On January 30 2013 16:00 Nova_Terra wrote:

This this this this 1000x. Bothers me way more than aperture/igrok and his pms or whatever. Im going to try to get a short analysis of why i find suck to be scummy during work.

On January 30 2013 07:06 Nova_Terra wrote:
If there isnt muh additional posting and help made by crossfire and stutters by tomorrow, i will be significantly more worried about those two.

On February 03 2013 02:55 Nova_Terra wrote:
Alright, im here. Sucks that we cant kill xfre today, but in a way im glad that the talk is off dealing damage to him, cause frankly i have nothing to add to that conversation in both conversation and damage ._.
i'm quite unsure as to the 2nd scum. I will read through stutters filter as a response to the current case, which i dont find to be damning but does have some valid points, for instance his contradictions.
For a hydra scum, i'd be somewhere between aperture and rock. I'll think about it and let you guys know.

On February 05 2013 15:36 Nova_Terra wrote:
Currently on my scumometer Aperture=Suck>Rockhydra=Stutters.
This means that i find that we should kill Aperture or suck today.
My issue with killing suck is that marv doesnt seem to give a shit and hes bitching like its no problem. would scum marv do this? I knoe its WIFOM, but i still doubt it.
I would also be more apt to want to lynch RH over stutters as he is more of a danger in both deck and play.

On February 06 2013 02:23 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
so, how do i attack with my blocker?

On February 06 2013 02:08 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
EBWOP: uh oh. Now with working image.

On February 05 2013 22:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Okay, lets get this shit done.

Poster, where are you? I took a brief flit over your filter and your activity was sky high on D1, moderate on D2 and D3 you have dropped off the face of the planet. Where are you? What are your current reads?

AS, where's your Rock analysis? You promised us a Rock analysis, but I don't see it. I want to save you, but I need your help. Please be a productive member of town, rather than dropping away now that town does not necessarily want to kill you.

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Acro's reads

The townies
Clockwork -- flipping duh.
Stutters -- in addition to the earlier town tell, he is pigheadedly stubborn. If scum, he is willfully angering the bear (hur hur hur) by playing the wrong cards. For what? Extra damage after the game has ended. Pointless.
Aperture -- fork you. Yes, I went there
Poster -- I may need to take a closer look at him, but I have no reason to doubt my D1 and D2 reads on him. Also, unleashed total annihilation on Xfire with 3 chain lightnings. I see no reason to claim 3 CLs (maybe 1) if he's scum.

The may be scum if we're wrongies
Rock, Nova. Not much to say yet, I have to filter them properly and kinda don't feel like it (so much work). They both gave D1 town impressions and have been doing jack since. We can't do enough damage to kill either of them anyway. I vote people distribute their damage over these targets, see plan below.

The kill with fire-ies
Suck -- Zombies snacking on his brains will be a feast for my eyes.

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Scumhunting by mutual destruction

Damage potential:

Suck: 0
AS: 0
Poster: 7
Clock: 11
Nova: 4
Rock: 7
Stutters: 2

Suck is at 18 life and has a blocker (assuming he is not following his own policy), so Rock's 2/2 Ninja, Poster's BL and my Zombie tokens attack Suck. Nova gives +2/+0 to 2 unblocked creatures (or the ball lightning and 1 unblocked creature). That should bring him down to 0.

We then have a Lavamancer, a Ghoul, a Phyrexian Stalker and a Bear that can do an extra 11 damage. Tell me where that should go. My current opinion is that the stalker should hit Nova, allowing it to become a 5/5 Ninja and reanimating a 4/4 changeling. This also allows Nova's Cryptoplasm to become 5/5 next upkeep. The rest attacks Rock and does 6 damage. In compensation for Nova not blocking the Ninja, Rock does not block the incoming damage.

Reasoning: if Suck inadvertently isn't scum, then I am pretty convinced Rock or Nova is. If Suck IS scum, then none of this damage matters. If Suck is NOT scum, then both are in a position to unleash destruction on each other next turn with big creatures AND both are sufficiently lowered so the big creatures can finish the job. An unearthed Ball Lightning, the rampaging horde of zombies and a 4/4 bear will all be around to help out. Hell, maybe AS goes off and kills us all.

Nova: will you be around tomorrow during the blocking phase? If not, this all doesn't work, because we need you to block a Phyrexian Stalker if Rock decides to block damage-dealing beasties.

Other objections: but this assumes Clockwork, Stutters, Poster, and to a certain extent AS, are town!
Regarding myself, see the post above, read my filter and get comfortable with it. Regarding Stutters, see above. Regarding Poster, I am still comfortable with him being town, despite the dropoff in activity and regarding AS: it only assumes AS is town to the extent that it assumes he is either town, or won't go off tomorrow. There is no way of really assessing this risk, but I am currently comfortable with it (I think he's town).

/Acro

On February 06 2013 02:04 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well marv, the thing is that S&B going completely AFK and you guys being somewhat "lazy" does make me paranoid.

Anyways: Nova

Filter from the previous MTG game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345422&user=255225




I found this post a little "townie" before, since he was so excited about making an analysis and the like....
...but on suck

Take a closer look, I say "I find these....posts by Suck and Cross....weird".
But Nova says "This this this.....I'm going to make an analysis on suck".
Why doesn't he mention Cross at all? He also goes on with his IRL excuses and posts his Suck case way late, and keeps ignoring Cross, when he said he was suspicious of Cross initially

Specially after making this post:


Him ignoring Xfire..confirmed scum like that, is too convenient.

Also, maybe it's me, but it is weird seeing Nova make "big" cases. I don't remember him doing any case at all last game.
Here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088&currentpage=41#810
It strikes me as odd, compared to last game, and compared to Nova at least "trying" to appear like he did last game (with all his one-liners and the like)

Also last game, he did have a time of 24 or so hours where he was AFK, but he was pretty active every other time.
In this game I don't even know if he posted anything ever since T2...did he?

In the previous game, he was carefree at all times. In this game it seemed he tried appearing so only initially, but now you can see some "serious" posts of his every now and then.

Also, yeah, he said he'd "keep an eye out" on Cross, yet the first time he finds him suspicious is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088&currentpage=47#924
T1 Attack Phase, when cases and cases against Xfire were made like 30 hours earlier or so, yet he ignored all of those to "make his Suck case".





These are the only last post I remember him posting suspicions. And they don't seem Nova-like, with the "I'm quite unsure as to the 2nd scum" or "I'll think about it", and that kind of phrasing. That 1st post of his there seems all fluffy, posting summaries (about Xfire) and the like.

I guess I can ignore the "thinks Xfire can flip town" thing that would be kind of dumb to do as scum.

/G

On February 06 2013 03:08 Nova_Terra wrote:

I'm not even going to try to defend this cause if you want to see it that way go ahead, im not gonna stop you. However I think that I can use a Marv defense here and say that my scum play is much better than what you give credit it for