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On January 31 2013 07:31 Nova_Terra wrote: Howbout this: nonsense is displayed, reacts extremely defensively in slight circumstances, leads the town in circles back to policy, adds little to nothing to town scumhunting. not alignment indicative, not alignment indicative, untrue, our position on many players is a great deal clearer than yours glad we sorted that so fast -marvelbabe | ||
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On January 31 2013 15:47 Nova_Terra wrote: Well i was trying to stay relatively null on CH but im having a hard time finding a scum motivation on any part of his last analysis, and its quite similar to the thoughts i was having but was unable to put them down well. BinonFire makes good points about rockhydra, who would be my 2nd priority for a hydra scum. Seriously, what townie 'tries' to stay null on someone? Jesus. | ||
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On January 31 2013 22:49 Acrofales wrote: Xfire and Nova: still waiting for answers. Suck: do something useful instead of repeating what has already been said. It doesn't matter if it's already been said, it bears repeating. Pretty sure I've already done something very useful by finding us a mafia. And why you think telling me to go do something useful is going to be productive with someone of my personality type is completely baffling. | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:09 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: marv, you recently (in the past week or two) have talked to me about meta/mentality reads on both hopeless and zebzet, I'm interested to hear you thoughts on the two of them this game and I don't understand your inability to produce this read. p On hopeless? Actually I just went through their filter (don't let Acro think he made me) and zebezt isn't screaming town to me like he was in his newbie game. This game is a whole kettle of fish, though. Have you actually given your read on what you think of Hopeless? | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:20 RockHydra wrote: My hydra-tip: use two browsers /zebezt My hydra-tip: Use your brain and look at what account you're posting under. I have 3 separate logins for 3 games (one co-host) and I've not failed yet :/ | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:24 Clockwork Hydra wrote: H1 knows he has a lurker meta and has used this as a defense before (Acme Mini Mafia) when scum. Pretty bad of you to take that as a town tell from him. Other than that, I still have to filter him properly, so no comment. /Acro That's not what Prome said at all. Read again. | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:27 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Response: I can, and do, read. Then you fail at understanding the point he was putting across. Prome was saying Hopeless was comfortable, casual, loose with it, rather than uptight and using it defensively. | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:34 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Since you understand this marv I was hoping you would say it, why have you opted out of giving hope a town read on his meta? p Because I wasn't particularly confident in it, but I understand what you're saying. Two different things my friend. | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:20 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Also, we are about 70% sure about who we're attacking, but waiting for some critical pieces of information. I also haven't properly filtered Rock and AS yet. They were low priority due to earlier meta-based reads on H1 and iGrok's single big analysis, but continued lack of involvement is casting doubt on both of these reads. On January 31 2013 23:35 Clockwork Hydra wrote: I wouldn't fail, if Prom would actually say what he means, rather than making us guess about whether he means the content or the form of stuff he quotes. Anyway, I've decided that before filtering Rock and AS, I should take a better look at you. I went with an early gut read and left you in the town corner, but have not ever taken a stab at actually looking at your filter. Flooding the thread will not stop me from filtering you. I've played with Xatalos! /Acro On February 01 2013 02:41 Clockwork Hydra wrote: K. Pretty much done with Poster's filter for now. Didn't find anything new. There is a gigantic amount of fluff, but hidden between the trash posts there seems to be a fair amount of scumhunting, though not nearly as much as he claims to be doing. Particularly this was funny, because he had done 0 scumhunting himself at this point. However, he seems to be actively contributing and trying to figure things out for town. Confirmed that he's not on the kill list for today. Also some outstanding questions: 1. You may indeed play instants during the attack phase (see OP). 2. Given the choice between a 2/0 and a 0/6 creature, I would always play the 0/6, because the 2/0 goes straight to the graveyard ![]() /Acro | ||
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On February 01 2013 02:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Suck, when Stutters has made a greater contribution to the thread than you, things are starting to look pretty bad. Why did you filter someone pretty likely to be town ahead of all the potentially scummy candidates you mentioned previously? And once again, I'm fairly sure I've found a mafia, so my contributions are probably better than yours, so go screw yourself, kindly. | ||
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On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote: I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this: Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games: LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1. PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon. Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1. I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game. The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day. Verdict: scum Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town): On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote: FINAL Day 1 Votecount BloodyC0bbler (13) marvellosity Clarity_nl Hopeless1der HiroPro froggynoddy [UoN]Sentinel iamperfection thrawn2112 VisceraEyes Djodref Promethelax Keirathi Lazermonkey Marvellosity (12) Palmar supersoft kushm4sta Toadesstern debears Mr. Cheesecake tube Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu yamato77 Foolishness grush57 hopeless1der (1) wherebugsgo Palmar (1) BloodyC0bbler tube(1) Vivax wherebugsgo (1) Jackal58 Haven't yet voted (1) Eywa- Day ends in 15 minutes. Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1: On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote: I am Detective now fuck off all of you. Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro. | ||
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On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING: I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied). Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum. Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol. /Acro Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads. As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town. That's just fact. | ||
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On February 01 2013 03:45 Clockwork Hydra wrote: No that's a fucking excuse to do nothing and say "olololol I do something as scum so I have to be town!!!!" which is some of the worst reasoning I've seen in my life. ~dandel No, it's pointing out that in the 30 games I've played there is an observable pattern. If you don't like it, tough titties. | ||
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On February 01 2013 03:46 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Well marv, this certainly doesn't "feel" like you playing scum, you seem too content to just be. You don't seem to be pushing a scum agenda or creating confusion, or just trying to appear as a pro-town moffo to mislead town. Sadly your counterpart doesn't really feel like it :D (he was the one making the "shitty case" against Nova in the first place) Did you check if you 2 have the same alignment? Maybe this is Hydra-Ception and 1 hydra head is one alignment and the other hydra head is another alignment! .....maybe Prome........but... :O :O :O :O /G Actually, I never actually looked at our role PM, s&b just PMed it me along with the hydra login shortly after the start. So :OOOOOO indeed! *goes to check* | ||
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On February 01 2013 03:51 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Your supporting evidence is simply that you haven't been caught. It's like a burglar being caught after committing 20 crimes without being caught and saying "well, because I wasn't caught the other 20 times, I cannot have been the burglar this time, because I wouldn't get caught". It ignores all other evidence that points to you being scum and simply assumes the conclusion. You commit an inductive fallacy. /Acro No, it's like saying there's 2 houses I like to break into as a burglar. For the first house, I keep having to run away from the police because I bungle it a bit. For the second house, I never have to run from the police because I plan the robbery so perfectly. The fact that I'm running away from the police in this situation isn't perfect evidence that I tried to burgle the first house, but it would indicate it. Boooooyaaaaaaa | ||
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On February 01 2013 03:58 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: ......wow If he lied to you I'll laugh my fucking ass off. Although that'd be a pretty fucking sweet strategy by a scum S&B lol He can even access the scum QT behind your back, but use you to convince people Suck is town (since you marv would technically be town) BIG PLAYS! /G You know what's especially hilarious? I did just check the inbox, and because s&b signed up the hydra later, the role PM went to his personal inbox. So I'm literally taking his word for it that we're town :D | ||
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