EPTAlso some outstanding questions:
1. You may indeed play instants during the attack phase (see OP).
2. Given the choice between a 2/0 and a 0/6 creature, I would always play the 0/6, because the 2/0 goes straight to the graveyard
/Acro
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
Also some outstanding questions: 1. You may indeed play instants during the attack phase (see OP). 2. Given the choice between a 2/0 and a 0/6 creature, I would always play the 0/6, because the 2/0 goes straight to the graveyard /Acro | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 23:20 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Also, we are about 70% sure about who we're attacking, but waiting for some critical pieces of information. I also haven't properly filtered Rock and AS yet. They were low priority due to earlier meta-based reads on H1 and iGrok's single big analysis, but continued lack of involvement is casting doubt on both of these reads. On January 31 2013 23:35 Clockwork Hydra wrote: I wouldn't fail, if Prom would actually say what he means, rather than making us guess about whether he means the content or the form of stuff he quotes. Anyway, I've decided that before filtering Rock and AS, I should take a better look at you. I went with an early gut read and left you in the town corner, but have not ever taken a stab at actually looking at your filter. Flooding the thread will not stop me from filtering you. I've played with Xatalos! /Acro On February 01 2013 02:41 Clockwork Hydra wrote: K. Pretty much done with Poster's filter for now. Didn't find anything new. There is a gigantic amount of fluff, but hidden between the trash posts there seems to be a fair amount of scumhunting, though not nearly as much as he claims to be doing. Particularly this was funny, because he had done 0 scumhunting himself at this point. However, he seems to be actively contributing and trying to figure things out for town. Confirmed that he's not on the kill list for today. Also some outstanding questions: 1. You may indeed play instants during the attack phase (see OP). 2. Given the choice between a 2/0 and a 0/6 creature, I would always play the 0/6, because the 2/0 goes straight to the graveyard /Acro | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
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SuckMyTopdeck
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On February 01 2013 02:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Suck, when Stutters has made a greater contribution to the thread than you, things are starting to look pretty bad. Why did you filter someone pretty likely to be town ahead of all the potentially scummy candidates you mentioned previously? And once again, I'm fairly sure I've found a mafia, so my contributions are probably better than yours, so go screw yourself, kindly. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:52 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Suck, when Stutters has made a greater contribution to the thread than you, things are starting to look pretty bad. wait what? which filter have I been looking at, stutters hasn't done shit to me | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
On January 31 2013 12:29 Hopeless1der wrote: iGrok! Are you genuinely upset that I'm lurky? Like...if someone had to pick 1 word to describe me, that's probably the one. Nah, I'm right there with you. So...I've reread and haven't come up with much that I can report on right now, nothing strikes me as scummy enough to pursue at this point. I'm headed to bed. See you all tomorrow. ~Hopeless On February 01 2013 02:56 Hopeless1der wrote: wait what? which filter have I been looking at, stutters hasn't done shit to me I swear, I'm getting the hang of this hydra thing. | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On January 29 2013 09:04 RockHydra wrote: My reasons for having 0/X creatures are completely separate from the merits of playing Mafia. They were selected based on the supposed synergy they provide for my deck. In addition, my deck was selected before my alignment so your entire argument is completely invalidated. I have 0/X creatures and I will play them because they further my goals, and ultimately the town's goals since I need my deck to function in order to do anything. If you feel the need to policy an 0/X creature, you're doing it wrong. ~Hopeless I'm headed out to dinner. Here you say they further your goals, which is presumably to play ninjas. However, the first thing you actually DO with them is: On January 31 2013 08:28 RockHydra wrote: <snip> I have no reason to attack this turn, so I'm not gonna. I wouldn't mind if cross pointed his goblin guide at me since I can block it with minimal/no repercussions (aside from a tapped goblin). ~Hopeless AKA keep them as a blocker. Why the inconsistency in play? I'm starting to agree with SnB here. If a creature can attack, it should be. /Acro | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:56 Hopeless1der wrote: wait what? which filter have I been looking at, stutters hasn't done shit to me Stutters, imho, is one of the towniest players in the game. That is, imho a lot more valuable than SnB's half-arsed read of Nova based on almost exclusively bad tells. /Acro | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote: I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this: Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games: LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1. PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon. Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1. I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game. The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day. Verdict: scum Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town): On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote: FINAL Day 1 Votecount BloodyC0bbler (13) marvellosity Clarity_nl Hopeless1der HiroPro froggynoddy [UoN]Sentinel iamperfection thrawn2112 VisceraEyes Djodref Promethelax Keirathi Lazermonkey Marvellosity (12) Palmar supersoft kushm4sta Toadesstern debears Mr. Cheesecake tube Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu yamato77 Foolishness grush57 hopeless1der (1) wherebugsgo Palmar (1) BloodyC0bbler tube(1) Vivax wherebugsgo (1) Jackal58 Haven't yet voted (1) Eywa- Day ends in 15 minutes. Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1: On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote: I am Detective now fuck off all of you. Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro. | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
After something Stutters said, I checked Xfire's Whose Line's game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378652&user=159969 Damn, he is playing NOTHING like that game :/ You "could" attribute it to him being comfortable in Whose Line's setup/game, but not in this one, but he scumhunts right off the bat there, posts casually, etc. I take it he didn't change jobs or anything in between these games? If so his "I'm at work" excuse wouldn't matter at all I'd really like to know why Xfire can only come in the thread in like little bursts 24 hours apart Is his life that busy? Even to post little comments in the thread, or at least say "I'm here guys" even if he doesn't have time to read filters and the like? The possibility I can think of is, yes, maybe he works, but when he comes home he checks his scum QT, and lurks a little bit before posting or reading the thread. I've done that at times as scum before (when saying stuff like "I was at uni!" and the like). /G | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:02 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Here you say they further your goals, which is presumably to play ninjas. However, the first thing you actually DO with them is: AKA keep them as a blocker. Why the inconsistency in play? I'm starting to agree with SnB here. If a creature can attack, it should be. /Acro I have no mana with which to ninjutsu anything into play. Attacking with two 0/3 creatures for shits and giggles isn't my style unfortunately ~Hopeless | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:06 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: Somehow I missed this terrible post, most of which I've deleted. Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town): Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1: Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro. Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING: On January 30 2013 23:24 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: You best be providing some good evidence for this one. Here's a fun-counter one, which I can actually prove: you know the last time marv was suspected as mafia on Day 1? Never. -marvelbabe I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied). Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum. Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol. /Acro | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Stutters, a question for you: Why did you wait until this Attack Phase basically to start scumhunting? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088¤tpage=28#550 In this post you basically called a bunch of people town (except Xfire), and said you'd be "looking at the hydras" Yet every single post from you from then is talking about one of these things: -Worried that people aren't pressuring you (for some reason...?) -Talking about Minds Aglow -Asking me some random stuff about marv Only when this Attack Phase started you said you were suspicious of Xfire Then you spend a century to flesh out your suspicion on Rock basically Why did you promise you'd be "looking at hydras" so early, yet did absolutely nothing about it until like 24 hours later? /G | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
On November 08 2012 03:37 Crossfire99 wrote: Moist (but he's not really a superhero, more like a member of the Henchmen Union) I'm not going to answer your question about when I asked iGrok because I don't know if that's allowed. I pm'd him and will see what he says. Just a note, but if we lynched a scum day 2 and there were only 2 scum left night 2, scum would have only had 1 shot because mafia kp is # of mafia/2 rounded up. So 2/2 = 1 which still rounds up to 1. Lol I might have misunderstood how MtG actions resolve because I don't play MtG and iGrok told me they resolve like MtG. I believe my point still stands, though, because he listed my actions in the middle of his list and not at the beginning or the end. World's worst movie star? A breadcrumb for the ages Anyways, I think his rage is completely over the top, but his reads match up with his actions around putting mana into minds aglow, as well as his indignant response to gonzaw when called out for it. He doesn't have to stop and think about why he's upset, he knows immediately that he didnt want to give CH zombies. I dislike that he didn't talk about anything, but then again, why would scum intentionally shroud their actions? I don't think they would. I don't want to attack crossfire, he doesn't make sense as scum to me. Here's another example: On January 30 2013 14:47 Crossfire99 wrote: I'm going to quote what I send in Parallel World Mafia because the same thing applies here. I had a double-take upon reading this post. I say I have a townread on cross, and he posts something that basically says my reasoning is irrelevant. I don't see why scum would bother telling me to question myself when I had a townread. | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING: I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied). Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum. Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol. /Acro Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads. As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town. That's just fact. | ||
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Clockwork Hydra
Uzbekistan442 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:36 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads. As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town. That's just fact. No that's a fucking excuse to do nothing and say "olololol I do something as scum so I have to be town!!!!" which is some of the worst reasoning I've seen in my life. ~dandel | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Sadly your counterpart doesn't really feel like it :D (he was the one making the "shitty case" against Nova in the first place) Did you check if you 2 have the same alignment? Maybe this is Hydra-Ception and 1 hydra head is one alignment and the other hydra head is another alignment! .....maybe Prome........but... :O :O :O :O /G | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:45 Clockwork Hydra wrote: No that's a fucking excuse to do nothing and say "olololol I do something as scum so I have to be town!!!!" which is some of the worst reasoning I've seen in my life. ~dandel No, it's pointing out that in the 30 games I've played there is an observable pattern. If you don't like it, tough titties. | ||
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