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Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 11:05 GMT
#901
On January 31 2013 19:49 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:23 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On January 31 2013 15:47 Nova_Terra wrote:
Well i was trying to stay relatively null on CH but im having a hard time finding a scum motivation on any part of his last analysis, and its quite similar to the thoughts i was having but was unable to put them down well.
BinonFire makes good points about rockhydra, who would be my 2nd priority for a hydra scum.


Just woke up and this post sprang out of the page to me: why were you trying to stay null on me? It sounds like a remarkably strange thing to do.

This is a question for Nova and if anybody else answers I will shoot you in the face. Nova, I need you to answer.

/Acro

Very good question. I've had a variety of vibes from you and not much else, and so i thought it would be better to refrain from making much out of you until i could find some better logic.

You seem to know why it's a good question. Why?
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 11:19 GMT
#902
On January 31 2013 08:23 Stutters695 wrote:
CH What happened to not giving me a free pass? You said that and haven't even mentioned me since? What's going on there?

Checking what I pulled. I'll see if I have anything I can drop to help the town's monsters.

You posted some of your reads. You float around in the back of my mind. Is there really much point in yelling repeatedly at someone who's inactive to not be inactive? You knew you were on my watch list. I give you time. You deliver or you don't. In this case you kept up the same level of contribution. I wasn't expecting you to suddenly go hyperactive.

Early on you seemed suspicious of Xfire and were going to read the hydras. You then say:
On January 31 2013 09:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Well crossfire is my number one read but he's been discussed to death. I'll have a post explaining my next best read when I get a few minutes of downtime at work. In the meantime I'll contribute to discussions however I can. I will say I feel a bit better about AS now that he's a bit more into it. Right now I don't think Nova is scum so if X turns out to be town I'd bet on a double hydra team.

I wouldn't say Xfire has been discussed to death. I would like to hear your take on him.

Also, any read on AS or Suck?

/Acro
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
January 31 2013 11:37 GMT
#903
On January 31 2013 10:15 Stutters695 wrote:

...

Then to defend not looking at hydras when mathematically it is way more likely for a hydra is svummy as duck to me.



I never said we shouldn't look at hydra's. I just think it is weird to work from the assumption there must be a hydra.
(I was an idiot and thought DFTP was not a hydra though and that this made him look scummy)

I still stand by that. Anyone is as likely to be scum as anyone else, so logically it makes no sense to ask a question like "who do you think is the scum hydra". Better to just ask who is scum.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 11:54 GMT
#904
Xfire, you can attack this turn. Who are you planning on attacking? Or at least looking into? We want reasons.

/Acro
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 12:04 GMT
#905
On January 31 2013 08:33 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 08:23 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
On January 31 2013 08:19 Crossfire99 wrote:
This makes no sense seriously. I'm just...lask;dfjkl;sdjlakj.f...aaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggggggg...why are you attacking me for playing according to my reads...ajdsfljdfiopjdoajfp


That's the thing...you don't have any reads.
You just posted some non-alignment-indicative shit about Clockwork in the closing paragraph of a behemot of a post where you just defended yourself, and that's as much as you had for "reads".

I would have thought you didn't have enough time to actually figure out if CH was scum or not.
Do you still think you have well formed "reads"?

/G

I'm according to my reads at this time, which happen to be the smae as the big last post because I haven't had time to play since then. Seriously. And thinking about it some more right now. Clockwork's whole be careful about powering invidual people up and then asking everyone to do it to him reminds way too much of strong from WLIIA, except here clockwork had the balls to tell everyone to be careful of just what he was doing this game. Strong in WLIIA at least didn't try to say bewware of the very thing he was doing.


You really just plain didn't read our posts, did you? We never said to be careful of someone powering up. We said: we will not cooperate in powering up someone we do not have a town read on and will be HAPPY to help if we DO have a town read. Now guess who our strongest town read is on? Hint: it is someone whose role PM we read. We are thus going to encourage everybody to cooperate with that plan!

Now this whole CH is scum thing from you sounds like you're stuck in an OMGUS loop that you can't get out of. You have given no reasons (except really shitty ones) and are using it as an excuse to do no actual scumhunting. Stop tunneling, or find some actual reasons for doing so.

/Acro
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 13:03 GMT
#906
On January 31 2013 15:47 Nova_Terra wrote:
Well i was trying to stay relatively null on CH but im having a hard time finding a scum motivation on any part of his last analysis, and its quite similar to the thoughts i was having but was unable to put them down well.
BinonFire makes good points about rockhydra, who would be my 2nd priority for a hydra scum.


Seriously, what townie 'tries' to stay null on someone? Jesus.
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18077 Posts
January 31 2013 13:49 GMT
#907
Xfire and Nova: still waiting for answers.

Suck: do something useful instead of repeating what has already been said.
Aperture Science
Profile Joined January 2013
United States151 Posts
January 31 2013 14:07 GMT
#908
The reason you look at hydras to see who is scum is that when we find out which hydra is scum, finding the remaining scum is much easier because you can look at the associations.

Re: the non-hydras, Xfire and Nova both feel weird, but there's no way they are both scum. I'm not even sure that either is. I'll do analysis comparing them when I get off of work.
We do what we must, because we can.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 14:07 GMT
#909
On January 31 2013 22:49 Acrofales wrote:
Xfire and Nova: still waiting for answers.

Suck: do something useful instead of repeating what has already been said.

Shit.
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 14:07 GMT
#910
On January 31 2013 22:49 Acrofales wrote:
Xfire and Nova: still waiting for answers.

Suck: do something useful instead of repeating what has already been said.


It doesn't matter if it's already been said, it bears repeating. Pretty sure I've already done something very useful by finding us a mafia.

And why you think telling me to go do something useful is going to be productive with someone of my personality type is completely baffling.
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
January 31 2013 14:09 GMT
#911
On January 31 2013 17:52 RockHydra wrote:
DFTP:
regarding xfire, I find this post particulary interesting

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 08:19 Crossfire99 wrote:This makes no sense seriously. I'm just...lask;dfjkl;sdjlakj.f...aaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggggggg...why are you attacking me for playing according to my reads...ajdsfljdfiopjdoajfp


It seems like tryhard appearing angry to me. Might be my confirmation bias though.
His case on CH is crap. Not the kind of crap caused by not having time, but by grasping at straws if you ask me.

After all his apologies there still aren't any good contributions.

/zebezt


I'm interested zeb, can you make a case on our friend Xfire? I'd like to see your points laid out in one place so I can see what you are thinking.

@Cross read this please, if you are town you need to NOT use the power of you shaman ever. Mafia creature does 8 damage this cycle and 10 the next cycle for a total of eighteen. Don't make it easy for scum. I will take it as a scum claim if you use that.

Bringing someone under nineteen life means you are 100% ultra super extra positive they are scum. Think of it as similar to a hammer vote on a lynch, I will hold you responsible for your reads as expressed by taking anyone under the mafia kill threshhold.

marv, you recently (in the past week or two) have talked to me about meta/mentality reads on both hopeless and zebzet, I'm interested to hear you thoughts on the two of them this game and I don't understand your inability to produce this read.


p
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 14:15 GMT
#912
On January 31 2013 23:09 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:

marv, you recently (in the past week or two) have talked to me about meta/mentality reads on both hopeless and zebzet, I'm interested to hear you thoughts on the two of them this game and I don't understand your inability to produce this read.

p


On hopeless? Actually I just went through their filter (don't let Acro think he made me) and zebezt isn't screaming town to me like he was in his newbie game. This game is a whole kettle of fish, though.

Have you actually given your read on what you think of Hopeless?
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18077 Posts
January 31 2013 14:16 GMT
#913
Crossfire, I really need you to tell us who you want to attack. If it's us, we won't block, because all our creatures will be attacking this turn, but you'd better have a damned good reason for nailing us with 3 damage.

If you are keeping your creatures as blockers, you'd better have a damned good reason.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 14:17 GMT
#914
On January 31 2013 23:16 Acrofales wrote:
Crossfire, I really need you to tell us who you want to attack. If it's us, we won't block, because all our creatures will be attacking this turn, but you'd better have a damned good reason for nailing us with 3 damage.

If you are keeping your creatures as blockers, you'd better have a damned good reason.

Oh ffs. Switched to send a PM, checked the thread and fucking did it again. I fail so badly at hydraing.
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
January 31 2013 14:19 GMT
#915
On January 31 2013 23:09 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
I'm interested zeb, can you make a case on our friend Xfire? I'd like to see your points laid out in one place so I can see what you are thinking.
p


I can after dinner (approx 4 hours from now)
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
January 31 2013 14:19 GMT
#916
Gon has given my read, I'm finding him on the townie side of things, he has that comfortable feeling I get from a town hopeless. Have you ever seen a scum say 'I dunno, no one seems scummy to me' or 'I am lurky' those just feel like things a town hopeless.

p
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 14:20 GMT
#917
Also, we are about 70% sure about who we're attacking, but waiting for some critical pieces of information. I also haven't properly filtered Rock and AS yet. They were low priority due to earlier meta-based reads on H1 and iGrok's single big analysis, but continued lack of involvement is casting doubt on both of these reads.
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
January 31 2013 14:20 GMT
#918
My hydra-tip: use two browsers

/zebezt
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 14:23 GMT
#919
On January 31 2013 23:20 RockHydra wrote:
My hydra-tip: use two browsers

/zebezt


My hydra-tip: Use your brain and look at what account you're posting under. I have 3 separate logins for 3 games (one co-host) and I've not failed yet :/
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 14:24 GMT
#920
On January 31 2013 23:19 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Gon has given my read, I'm finding him on the townie side of things, he has that comfortable feeling I get from a town hopeless. Have you ever seen a scum say 'I dunno, no one seems scummy to me' or 'I am lurky' those just feel like things a town hopeless.

p

H1 knows he has a lurker meta and has used this as a defense before (Acme Mini Mafia) when scum. Pretty bad of you to take that as a town tell from him. Other than that, I still have to filter him properly, so no comment.

/Acro
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