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SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 18:51 GMT
#961
On February 01 2013 03:46 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well marv, this certainly doesn't "feel" like you playing scum, you seem too content to just be. You don't seem to be pushing a scum agenda or creating confusion, or just trying to appear as a pro-town moffo to mislead town.

Sadly your counterpart doesn't really feel like it :D
(he was the one making the "shitty case" against Nova in the first place)

Did you check if you 2 have the same alignment? Maybe this is Hydra-Ception and 1 hydra head is one alignment and the other hydra head is another alignment!
.....maybe Prome........but... :O :O :O :O

/G


Actually, I never actually looked at our role PM, s&b just PMed it me along with the hydra login shortly after the start.

So :OOOOOO indeed! *goes to check*
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 18:51 GMT
#962
On February 01 2013 03:36 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:06 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Somehow I missed this terrible post, most of which I've deleted.

On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this:

Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games:

LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1.
PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon.
Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1.

I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game.

The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day.

Verdict: scum



Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town):

On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount



BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey

Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57

hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo



Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-


Day ends in 15 minutes.


Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1:

On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
I am Detective

now fuck off all of you.


Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro.


Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING:
On January 30 2013 23:24 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On January 30 2013 21:14 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Additionally, Marv evades questions with a reflection, while doing none of his usual town play. You know what happened last time Marv lurked through day 1? He flipped scum.



You best be providing some good evidence for this one.

Here's a fun-counter one, which I can actually prove: you know the last time marv was suspected as mafia on Day 1? Never.

-marvelbabe

I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied).

Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum.

Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol.

/Acro


Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads.

As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town.

That's just fact.


Your supporting evidence is simply that you haven't been caught. It's like a burglar being caught after committing 20 crimes without being caught and saying "well, because I wasn't caught the other 20 times, I cannot have been the burglar this time, because I wouldn't get caught".

It ignores all other evidence that points to you being scum and simply assumes the conclusion. You commit an inductive fallacy.

/Acro
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 18:55 GMT
#963
On February 01 2013 03:51 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:36 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:06 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Somehow I missed this terrible post, most of which I've deleted.

On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this:

Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games:

LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1.
PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon.
Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1.

I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game.

The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day.

Verdict: scum



Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town):

On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount



BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey

Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57

hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo



Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-


Day ends in 15 minutes.


Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1:

On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
I am Detective

now fuck off all of you.


Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro.


Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING:
On January 30 2013 23:24 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On January 30 2013 21:14 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Additionally, Marv evades questions with a reflection, while doing none of his usual town play. You know what happened last time Marv lurked through day 1? He flipped scum.



You best be providing some good evidence for this one.

Here's a fun-counter one, which I can actually prove: you know the last time marv was suspected as mafia on Day 1? Never.

-marvelbabe

I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied).

Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum.

Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol.

/Acro


Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads.

As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town.

That's just fact.


Your supporting evidence is simply that you haven't been caught. It's like a burglar being caught after committing 20 crimes without being caught and saying "well, because I wasn't caught the other 20 times, I cannot have been the burglar this time, because I wouldn't get caught".

It ignores all other evidence that points to you being scum and simply assumes the conclusion. You commit an inductive fallacy.

/Acro


No, it's like saying there's 2 houses I like to break into as a burglar. For the first house, I keep having to run away from the police because I bungle it a bit. For the second house, I never have to run from the police because I plan the robbery so perfectly.

The fact that I'm running away from the police in this situation isn't perfect evidence that I tried to burgle the first house, but it would indicate it.

Boooooyaaaaaaa
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
January 31 2013 18:58 GMT
#964
On February 01 2013 03:51 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:46 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well marv, this certainly doesn't "feel" like you playing scum, you seem too content to just be. You don't seem to be pushing a scum agenda or creating confusion, or just trying to appear as a pro-town moffo to mislead town.

Sadly your counterpart doesn't really feel like it :D
(he was the one making the "shitty case" against Nova in the first place)

Did you check if you 2 have the same alignment? Maybe this is Hydra-Ception and 1 hydra head is one alignment and the other hydra head is another alignment!
.....maybe Prome........but... :O :O :O :O

/G


Actually, I never actually looked at our role PM, s&b just PMed it me along with the hydra login shortly after the start.

So :OOOOOO indeed! *goes to check*



......wow

If he lied to you I'll laugh my fucking ass off.
Although that'd be a pretty fucking sweet strategy by a scum S&B lol
He can even access the scum QT behind your back, but use you to convince people Suck is town (since you marv would technically be town)

BIG PLAYS!

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
RockHydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Pitcairn222 Posts
January 31 2013 18:59 GMT
#965
Hey all.
I'm around again.
I must say this is a pretty active group.
I'm gonna be making a case on xfire now... although most things have kinda been said on that, but maybe I'll find something new.
I'll get back with that in a sec.
Then hopefully I also have time to read up on all the stuff going on with SuckMyTopdeck

/zebezt
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 19:00 GMT
#966
On February 01 2013 03:58 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:51 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:46 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Well marv, this certainly doesn't "feel" like you playing scum, you seem too content to just be. You don't seem to be pushing a scum agenda or creating confusion, or just trying to appear as a pro-town moffo to mislead town.

Sadly your counterpart doesn't really feel like it :D
(he was the one making the "shitty case" against Nova in the first place)

Did you check if you 2 have the same alignment? Maybe this is Hydra-Ception and 1 hydra head is one alignment and the other hydra head is another alignment!
.....maybe Prome........but... :O :O :O :O

/G


Actually, I never actually looked at our role PM, s&b just PMed it me along with the hydra login shortly after the start.

So :OOOOOO indeed! *goes to check*



......wow

If he lied to you I'll laugh my fucking ass off.
Although that'd be a pretty fucking sweet strategy by a scum S&B lol
He can even access the scum QT behind your back, but use you to convince people Suck is town (since you marv would technically be town)

BIG PLAYS!

/G


You know what's especially hilarious? I did just check the inbox, and because s&b signed up the hydra later, the role PM went to his personal inbox. So I'm literally taking his word for it that we're town :D
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
January 31 2013 19:03 GMT
#967
Hey marv, if you see a "Scum Beast Attack" PM in the "Sent" out-box from your Suck account, let us know okay?

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 19:04 GMT
#968
On February 01 2013 04:03 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Hey marv, if you see a "Scum Beast Attack" PM in the "Sent" out-box from your Suck account, let us know okay?

/G


I promise <3
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 19:10 GMT
#969
On February 01 2013 03:55 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:51 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:36 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:06 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Somehow I missed this terrible post, most of which I've deleted.

On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this:

Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games:

LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1.
PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon.
Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1.

I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game.

The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day.

Verdict: scum



Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town):

On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount



BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey

Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57

hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo



Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-


Day ends in 15 minutes.


Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1:

On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
I am Detective

now fuck off all of you.


Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro.


Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING:
On January 30 2013 23:24 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On January 30 2013 21:14 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Additionally, Marv evades questions with a reflection, while doing none of his usual town play. You know what happened last time Marv lurked through day 1? He flipped scum.



You best be providing some good evidence for this one.

Here's a fun-counter one, which I can actually prove: you know the last time marv was suspected as mafia on Day 1? Never.

-marvelbabe

I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied).

Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum.

Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol.

/Acro


Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads.

As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town.

That's just fact.


Your supporting evidence is simply that you haven't been caught. It's like a burglar being caught after committing 20 crimes without being caught and saying "well, because I wasn't caught the other 20 times, I cannot have been the burglar this time, because I wouldn't get caught".

It ignores all other evidence that points to you being scum and simply assumes the conclusion. You commit an inductive fallacy.

/Acro


No, it's like saying there's 2 houses I like to break into as a burglar. For the first house, I keep having to run away from the police because I bungle it a bit. For the second house, I never have to run from the police because I plan the robbery so perfectly.

The fact that I'm running away from the police in this situation isn't perfect evidence that I tried to burgle the first house, but it would indicate it.

Boooooyaaaaaaa


No, because the vast majority of the times you enter house 1 you don't have to run from the police either and you have conveniently discarded all of that from your sample.
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 19:11 GMT
#970
Anyway, you're distracting me. How long til the attack deadline?
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 19:12 GMT
#971
On February 01 2013 04:10 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:55 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:51 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:36 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:06 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Somehow I missed this terrible post, most of which I've deleted.

On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this:

Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games:

LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1.
PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon.
Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1.

I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game.

The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day.

Verdict: scum



Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town):

On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount



BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey

Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57

hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo



Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-


Day ends in 15 minutes.


Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1:

On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
I am Detective

now fuck off all of you.


Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro.


Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING:
On January 30 2013 23:24 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On January 30 2013 21:14 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Additionally, Marv evades questions with a reflection, while doing none of his usual town play. You know what happened last time Marv lurked through day 1? He flipped scum.



You best be providing some good evidence for this one.

Here's a fun-counter one, which I can actually prove: you know the last time marv was suspected as mafia on Day 1? Never.

-marvelbabe

I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied).

Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum.

Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol.

/Acro


Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads.

As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town.

That's just fact.


Your supporting evidence is simply that you haven't been caught. It's like a burglar being caught after committing 20 crimes without being caught and saying "well, because I wasn't caught the other 20 times, I cannot have been the burglar this time, because I wouldn't get caught".

It ignores all other evidence that points to you being scum and simply assumes the conclusion. You commit an inductive fallacy.

/Acro


No, it's like saying there's 2 houses I like to break into as a burglar. For the first house, I keep having to run away from the police because I bungle it a bit. For the second house, I never have to run from the police because I plan the robbery so perfectly.

The fact that I'm running away from the police in this situation isn't perfect evidence that I tried to burgle the first house, but it would indicate it.

Boooooyaaaaaaa


No, because the vast majority of the times you enter house 1 you don't have to run from the police either and you have conveniently discarded all of that from your sample.


But I've never had to run from the police in the 2nd house... ever......

again, it isn't perfect evidence, but it does point to one house over the other...
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
January 31 2013 19:17 GMT
#972
Anyways, I was waiting for Xfire to get here, but I think I know who to attack (with my AWESOME 1 DAMAGE MWAHAHAHA).

I'll go watch some youtube video and come back though, see if something else happens.

Clock, even I get the feeling marv is not playing at all like scum marv does, or like anyone would expect scum marv to play.
If we trust there is no cheating (lol), then the same would apply to S&B I suppose.

He seems to be playing like in OMGUS lol, just laid back and being lazy as fuck.
I guess this kind of games just brings that stuff up in him lol

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 19:17 GMT
#973
@G I have a busy schedule and this game moves at the most inopportune times for me usually since it seemsthe majority of players are EU or the NA ones are lurky as shit. Consequently when I finally do get back to the thread I usually have had like ten pages to catch up on and with the amount of hydras it is hard to keep track of, especially while at work.

It wasn't that I'm worried people aren't attacking me, it's that I'm worried people were using my early game as a way to "scumhunt" without actually doing anything to find scum except saying I don't post enough.

Like I said about minds aglow previously during d1 I think discussing plays and overarching town strats is good because the re is less to talk about. Especially in my position where I didn't have a lot of free time to compose a good case through filters.

I'm assuming you're talking about when I asked if you thought Marv was town. I was asking that because that entire post was just fluff where you didn't say much of anything. I wanted to hear how you were leaving instead of justI'm not sure.

Did that answer what you wanted?
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 19:19 GMT
#974
I might play the rest of this game in burglar analogies.

So, like, there's this burglar called Nova_Terra, and he says he likes to burgle houses, which is nice. On the first night, he says he twisted his ankle, so he can't go out burgling tonight. All the other burglars kinda nod their heads. On the second night, he says he can't go out burgling, cos he has to go look after his mother. Everyone's like, ok that's cool. On the third night, he can't go out burgling because he has this hot date, so all the other burglers have to go out burgling without him.

On the fourth night, Nova goes out burgling after all. He comes back to the burglar hide-out, where everyone is sitting there with their jewellery and televisions, and provides a tuft of grass. Everyone's like cool! he went out burgling, and all those other reasons he didn't go out burgling before are totally legit. That tuft of grass is awesome.

Burgler Nova then says he's tried superhard not to think of Clockwork burgler as a good burgler, because he's never seen good evidence and has just heard stories around the block that he's a good burgler. No-one knows why Nova burgler doesn't wanna go check out CH's stash, that would prove or not whether CH is a good burgler. Nova burgler instead goes home to see his cat.

The End
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 19:21 GMT
#975
There's also this burgler called Acro, who everyone thinks is a pretty good burgler, but for some reason he keeps breaking into his own house.

Go figure!
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 19:23 GMT
#976
On February 01 2013 04:12 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 04:10 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:55 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:51 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:36 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:18 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:06 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
Somehow I missed this terrible post, most of which I've deleted.

On January 31 2013 11:04 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
I was writing a play-by-play case here on Suck but the crux of the question is this:

Marv is pretty damned proud of his D1 status of never being suspected, and that is because he generally looks pretty damned townie on D1. Recent games:

LVI, got elected and lynched scum on D1.
PU, had some arguments, but was never in doubt. Took a back seat in most plays, because 3P wincon.
Hero Mini, early support on bussing his scumbuddy D1.

I don't think Marv has ever died on D1 and that is because Marv always puts in an effort on D1. This game, he clearly didn't (at least not at the start). The only other game I can find where Marv really didn't put in an effort on D1 is MTG Mini Mafia I. He was scum in that game.

The play-by-play I was doing just showed the lack of effort he put in until about 2/3 through the day.

Verdict: scum



Acro is being extraordinarily selective. Here's the final votecount from LVIII (town):

On January 05 2013 07:14 Kurumi wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount



BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey

Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57

hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo



Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler

tube(1)
Vivax

wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58

Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-


Day ends in 15 minutes.


Here's marvellosity claiming in Paranoia because he got in trouble day 1:

On December 02 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
I am Detective

now fuck off all of you.


Selective meta picking is extremely scummy, Acro.


Errr, I didn't even go over much of Marv's previous games, I just relied on HIM SAYING:
On January 30 2013 23:24 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:
On January 30 2013 21:14 Clockwork Hydra wrote:

Additionally, Marv evades questions with a reflection, while doing none of his usual town play. You know what happened last time Marv lurked through day 1? He flipped scum.



You best be providing some good evidence for this one.

Here's a fun-counter one, which I can actually prove: you know the last time marv was suspected as mafia on Day 1? Never.

-marvelbabe

I'm afraid I took that to mean "being suspected when playing mafia". I did not read LVIII except for the modkill drama bit or Paranoia (at all, was simultaneous with CT and I was rather occupied).

Anyway, so you're honestly going with the defense: Marv is only suspected of being scum on D1 when he's not scum.

Worst defense since "Marv would never let me play that way" and you are honestly using it to flip that back and OMGUS me? Fucking lol.

/Acro


Why is it the worst defence, again? Over the 8 games (i think) I've played as mafia, I've never been suspected day 1, because I'm very good at fabricating evidence and reads.

As just provided, I'm suspected on Day 1 because I don't bullshit reads so it can look like I've contributed less as town.

That's just fact.


Your supporting evidence is simply that you haven't been caught. It's like a burglar being caught after committing 20 crimes without being caught and saying "well, because I wasn't caught the other 20 times, I cannot have been the burglar this time, because I wouldn't get caught".

It ignores all other evidence that points to you being scum and simply assumes the conclusion. You commit an inductive fallacy.

/Acro


No, it's like saying there's 2 houses I like to break into as a burglar. For the first house, I keep having to run away from the police because I bungle it a bit. For the second house, I never have to run from the police because I plan the robbery so perfectly.

The fact that I'm running away from the police in this situation isn't perfect evidence that I tried to burgle the first house, but it would indicate it.

Boooooyaaaaaaa


No, because the vast majority of the times you enter house 1 you don't have to run from the police either and you have conveniently discarded all of that from your sample.


But I've never had to run from the police in the 2nd house... ever......

again, it isn't perfect evidence, but it does point to one house over the other...

No, it doesn't, because your fingerprints are all over the damn house. Now let me read Rock's filter.
(DontFear)ThePoster
Profile Joined December 2012
Guernsey584 Posts
January 31 2013 19:23 GMT
#977
I would make a fine burglar I take it

Stutters...yeah I guess? It is a literally answer to a question I asked, so I guess it did answer what I wanted. I'll process it later.

I'm kind of worried Nova hasn't shown up or participated in any discussion for a while.

/G
Come on townie. Townie take my hand .We'll be able to scumhunt. Townie I'm your scum
SuckMyTopdeck
Profile Joined January 2013
Guernsey314 Posts
January 31 2013 19:24 GMT
#978
On February 01 2013 04:23 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
I would make a fine burglar I take it

Stutters...yeah I guess? It is a literally answer to a question I asked, so I guess it did answer what I wanted. I'll process it later.

I'm kind of worried Nova hasn't shown up or participated in any discussion for a while.

/G


gonzaw, you're the best burgler. You stole the crown jewels!
colored artifacts and emblem effects are retarded and i refuse to acknowledge them
Clockwork Hydra
Profile Joined January 2013
Uzbekistan442 Posts
January 31 2013 19:24 GMT
#979
When is the attack deadline?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 19:28 GMT
#980
I believe it's 6pm est. not 100% sure though.
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