EPTCrossfire/Stutters, if you don't come back until then Imma be very disappointed
Aperture, you are here, showed by you posting a little while ago. Why aren't you casting anything? Would you or would you not give more mana to Join Forces?
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Crossfire/Stutters, if you don't come back until then Imma be very disappointed Aperture, you are here, showed by you posting a little while ago. Why aren't you casting anything? Would you or would you not give more mana to Join Forces? /G | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
last time he really didnt give a fuck, posting one liners all over the place this time he's posting more detail (relatively), his average post is longer but still completely wrong however its true that last game he did suck up to you but also last game he just tunnelled zealos whereas this game hes going along with the flow more and blendign in with town people. | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:37 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Well Suck, apparently this "lack of reasons" is explained by some IRL stuff. I do want to wait to see what he pulls up, although I don't think it'll surprise me or anything. Last game, he said "Kill Fulla, and maybe Zealos/Grey" on T1 and that's it regarding what he was pushing. I don't see much change in his "decisiveness" from there, can you point that out? Also again, how does this change your read on Stutters and Crossfire? /G Yeah, but here it's... Suck is scummy, maybe for this reason maybe not, more later.... Suck still scummy, more later.... Suck still scummy, more later.... In the last game he didn't have to promise future content, he was happy just to say "yeah kill these dudes". Here he feels the need to justify his absence and his read with future promises. My read on Stutters (slightly town) remains unchanged, and Crossfire seems less scummy for it. At least he made the effort to defend himself and make a case on someone, even though some of it was wrong, some of it was correct too - marvelbabe | ||
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RockHydra
Pitcairn222 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:33 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: @Rock: What do you think of Suck? You haven't mentioned them in that "thoughts" post of yours. Also again, if you had to choose, which one of Nova/Cross/Stutters is scum and why? Or if you think all 3 are town, explain to me why you think Cross is town What's your "updated" read on Bin? What about the other hydras? If you guys are going against Nova+Stutters/etc, remember: It's VERY unlikely 2 of them are scum. Thus, if you find Nova suspicious, you basically find Stutters and Crossfire like confirmed town. Same with the other 2. Thus, if you put suspicion on any of them, before spouting stuff in the thread (or rather before actively FoSing any of them), think about how that changes your read on Stutters/Crossfire, and see if it's consistent and you agree. If you think something is wrong, then better reconsider your initial push (unless you want to pressure the guy, which is fine I guess) I am suspicious of Crossfire, and I don't see any inconsistencies with my reads on Nova and Stutters, thus I'm slightly more confident in that read. A question! I'm going to ignore it first, because your statement that if nova is scummy that stutters/cross are almost confirmed town is of course non sense. If Nova is confirmed scum, then stutters and cross are just as likely as anyone else to be scum. Aaaaaaaaaanyway, I'm gonna take your word for it for now that Nova is playing normally. I don't have the time to check it unfortunately. Between stutters and crossfire, crossfire is the obvious choice just because of the lurkiness. I've read through both filters, and neither struck me as very scummy or townie. Crossfire hardly posted anything at all though. The game is still short though.. so that might all change. Crossfire made some excuses about not knowing mtg very well, but hasn't done any of the normal scumhunting either. As a bonus, my read on DFTP: seemed scummy to me at first, but for no good raisin. Tried reading his filter, gave up, seemed genuinely angry at the trolling though, so that's nice. Also warning people to play their cards is appreciated. So feeling a bit more confident on towniness now. Now im going to play shuriken! ninja hydra ftw! /zebezt | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:23 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Damn S&B, I don't know what to think of you Marv gives me slight town feels with his attitude (attitude alone though, not his play, i.e lack of scumhunting and taking a strong position in town), but you gave me so many "bad" feelings dude. Like you going against Nova up there, and having that "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Let's start somewhere: Skim Nova's filter from the previous game. Do you still find him scummy? Do you agree with what I've said a few posts back? /G So do you think that Marv is town based on that or do you think despite the attitude he is more scummy than town? | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
On January 30 2013 16:00 Nova_Terra wrote: This this this this 1000x. Bothers me way more than aperture/igrok and his pms or whatever. Im going to try to get a short analysis of why i find suck to be scummy during work. I find this post townie for a reason. I don't get the feeling scum Nova would jump on it like this, just to get "enthusiastic" about it and then promise the "analysis" on Suck I find it more likely townies jumping on posts like mine that way, while scum would say something like "Hmm, I agree with you bla bla bla I think they are both indeed suspicious bla bla bla". It's the way he did it basically. I don't really see anything that can tell you "Yes he's surely scum" like you guys say. Yes, he "barely" called you out....but he's Nova. You guys are "vets" and thus finding evidence to point you as scummy is not as easy as saying "Fulla/Zealos is not doing shit kill him", which is pretty easy to do and effortless, and he in fact did last game. You can in fact see him thinking Grey is scum but never really posting anything about it (in the last game). He did in fact "promise" to make an analysis on you guys, and IRL stuff kicked in and he couldn't, so him not making a case yet is not alignment-indicative Like...I can't see why you guys are "so convinced" about him being scum. /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Get it out there before I forget /G | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:53 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: I find this post townie for a reason. I don't get the feeling scum Nova would jump on it like this, just to get "enthusiastic" about it and then promise the "analysis" on Suck I find it more likely townies jumping on posts like mine that way, while scum would say something like "Hmm, I agree with you bla bla bla I think they are both indeed suspicious bla bla bla". It's the way he did it basically. I don't really see anything that can tell you "Yes he's surely scum" like you guys say. Yes, he "barely" called you out....but he's Nova. You guys are "vets" and thus finding evidence to point you as scummy is not as easy as saying "Fulla/Zealos is not doing shit kill him", which is pretty easy to do and effortless, and he in fact did last game. You can in fact see him thinking Grey is scum but never really posting anything about it (in the last game). He did in fact "promise" to make an analysis on you guys, and IRL stuff kicked in and he couldn't, so him not making a case yet is not alignment-indicative Like...I can't see why you guys are "so convinced" about him being scum. /G Where did I say he's "surely" scum? I think he has a pretty decent chance of being mafia, a higher chance than Crossfire indeed. If you don't find multiple promises of future content without delivering to be scummy, given how close we are to the end of day 1, due to his 'irl' excuses, then there's not a lot i can do about that. -marvelbabe | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:07 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: marv, why won't you do this with me. A short conversation about Hopeless "the Rock" Hydra. Your read on him and your reasons. I need this from you, just one more time. p huh. I've not picked anything up on him for good or for bad. Like someone else said, aren't you the Hopeless expert? | ||
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Nova_Terra
Switzerland1190 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:53 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: I find this post townie for a reason. I don't get the feeling scum Nova would jump on it like this, just to get "enthusiastic" about it and then promise the "analysis" on Suck I find it more likely townies jumping on posts like mine that way, while scum would say something like "Hmm, I agree with you bla bla bla I think they are both indeed suspicious bla bla bla". It's the way he did it basically. I don't really see anything that can tell you "Yes he's surely scum" like you guys say. Yes, he "barely" called you out....but he's Nova. You guys are "vets" and thus finding evidence to point you as scummy is not as easy as saying "Fulla/Zealos is not doing shit kill him", which is pretty easy to do and effortless, and he in fact did last game. You can in fact see him thinking Grey is scum but never really posting anything about it (in the last game). He did in fact "promise" to make an analysis on you guys, and IRL stuff kicked in and he couldn't, so him not making a case yet is not alignment-indicative Like...I can't see why you guys are "so convinced" about him being scum. /G Hes "so convinced" because im calling him out on being scummy, and therefore has to make a move to make me look less credible before i can get the analysis (which is my fault, got delayed by all this shit). | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:09 Nova_Terra wrote: Hes "so convinced" because im calling him out on being scummy, and therefore has to make a move to make me look less credible before i can get the analysis (which is my fault, got delayed by all this shit). lolk idk about "convinced", i just posted a pile of barf of scummy stuff you said. my thought process is there in the thread and i'm no more "so convinced" than my words say i am. also yall have no way of knowing whether this is true, but i completely wrote that post in stream of consciousness so i didn't even know he was accusing us before i started analyzing his stuff. | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:09 Nova_Terra wrote: Hes "so convinced" because im calling him out on being scummy, and therefore has to make a move to make me look less credible before i can get the analysis (which is my fault, got delayed by all this shit). ah yea, i forgot that famous mafia rule where you're not allowed to call out your accuser who randomly calls you mafia while providing no reasons *slaps hand* must do better marv -marvelbabe | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:52 RockHydra wrote: A question! I'm going to ignore it first, because your statement that if nova is scummy that stutters/cross are almost confirmed town is of course non sense. If Nova is confirmed scum, then stutters and cross are just as likely as anyone else to be scum. It's obviously a figure of speech. Also if you think there is a scum between the hydra then what I said is true And why does that make you now answer my question about Suck? :/ Wut On January 31 2013 05:53 Stutters695 wrote: Back up. You guys post a lot. So do you think that Marv is town based on that or do you think despite the attitude he is more scummy than town? Marv's "lazy" attitude gives me a slight town feeling, in the sense that he didn't seem to "push a scum agenda" and actively try to disrupt town and the like like I'd expect from scum marv. I'm not that sure about them to be honest, and I don't know if I should rely on that... On January 31 2013 05:57 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: Where did I say he's "surely" scum? I think he has a pretty decent chance of being mafia, a higher chance than Crossfire indeed. Well, you made a gigantic case on him and concluded with "let's kill him". I'd think that's calling him surely scum. If you don't find multiple promises of future content without delivering to be scummy, given how close we are to the end of day 1, due to his 'irl' excuses, then there's not a lot i can do about that. You really believe him not following up with that "case" on yours is intentional? /G | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:17 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: It's obviously a figure of speech. Also if you think there is a scum between the hydra then what I said is true And why does that make you now answer my question about Suck? :/ Wut Marv's "lazy" attitude gives me a slight town feeling, in the sense that he didn't seem to "push a scum agenda" and actively try to disrupt town and the like like I'd expect from scum marv. I'm not that sure about them to be honest, and I don't know if I should rely on that... Well, you made a gigantic case on him and concluded with "let's kill him". I'd think that's calling him surely scum. You really believe him not following up with that "case" on yours is intentional? /G I take it from your attitude that you think Crossfire is 'surely' scum then, gonzaw? | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
I don't really like iGrok's and zbest's lack of involvement in these discussions (about Suck/Nova/etc). Fuck even Stutters came out of nowhere to be in that discussion....and he's Stutters (speaking of which Stutters.....I'd gladly expect something else from you now  )/G | ||
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SuckMyTopdeck
Guernsey314 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:17 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: It's obviously a figure of speech. Also if you think there is a scum between the hydra then what I said is true And why does that make you now answer my question about Suck? :/ Wut Marv's "lazy" attitude gives me a slight town feeling, in the sense that he didn't seem to "push a scum agenda" and actively try to disrupt town and the like like I'd expect from scum marv. I'm not that sure about them to be honest, and I don't know if I should rely on that... Well, you made a gigantic case on him and concluded with "let's kill him". I'd think that's calling him surely scum. You really believe him not following up with that "case" on yours is intentional? /G "gigantic case" lol that was a small bit of stream-of-consciousness analysis. a "gigantic case" would be much more involved and have a definite conclusion. I also didnt conclude "lets kill him" i concluded "lets not kill him yet because he has an irl excuse which appears to justify his delay of a case on me." i provided evidence and my interpretations. that's not the same as a "giant case" also you're confusing me and marv i think, it should be easy to tell by writing style which one is which but ill also try and do a better job of signing (most of the unsigned stuff is me though i think) -snb | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
The alternatives are: 1 of Nova/Stutters being scum: I just don't see this right now. Gut town feeling on both 2 hydras are scum: I don't see this because I can't even figure out which single hydra is scum. 2 of them being scum, just doesn't "ring" to me based on everybody's play so far, and there's not much to go on to hold on to that theory. Plus it means Cross is town....which I also find a little bit hard to believe. /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
I don't see the need to differentiate between you 2 in this case. /G | ||
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