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On December 12 2012 13:54 Z-BosoN wrote:
@jay
I'm tempted to agree with you, but in the first part there, where does Djo say that he wouldn't mind lynching Adam in the post you quoted? It might be that I'm sleepy, but I couldn't find it.
He says it in the post under the text.
On December 12 2012 14:37 Djodref wrote:
@ Jay
1. I sheeped Clarity and Clarity's case was worth sheeping. But you are twisting the facts when you say that I've sheeped for voting Tunkeg. I provided my own case for Tunkeg before voting him. Also I have done more than you in this game so don't be an hypocrite.
2. I have stated multiple times than I didn't feel like Adam was the best lynch. So I've tried to promote my top scumread lynches over Adam lynch. The majority was reached for Adam's lynch without my help so I didn't need to cast my vote against him.
3. My actions before the lynch are more relevant of a town Djodref not knowing if Adam was going to flip scum or not than of a scum Djodref that would have known that Adam was going to flip scum (it was quite clear he was today's lynch after my first attempt to lead a counter bandwagon on you). It would have been easier and safer for scum me to bus Adam because I had given me this escape route before when I said that I didn't mind an Adam lynch. Ok, this is WIFOM, but you should know that my behavior before the lynch points towards a town Djodref and not a scum Djodref.
The main point of my case is that you said you would help us lynch adam, and you failed to deliver.
Also your play isn't indicative of a townie who is not sure on adam. It seems to reak of a scum buddy desperately trying ot save adam. I wasnt sure on adam, but to prevent a no lynch i voted him.
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Haven't read your case on Vivax yet but. You have tried to lynch me like three times. Why dont you have a case on me?
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No Z-Boson, I'm not scum. That's fairly evident given the fact that I continually said Adam was my #2 read to Tunkeg. I just wanted to kill Tunkeg over Adam and I would say that again given how I perceived Palmar.
There were two reasons I was unsure of lynching Adam and none about Tunkeg. Reason 1 for Adam was that he pointed out something about miller claims that thrawn had said in a previous game. I didn't find that very scummy but it was a fairly minor point of consideration. The other thing was relatively unrelated to adam's behavior but rather how easy it was to lynch him, particularly given Palmar's really strange comments re: his priority of reads.
If Palmar really did make his video without knowing his alignment, then he would be pretty hard pressed to bus his teammate Adam if he ended up seeing he was scum after saying all that shit about his posts. That's one reason I'm wary of his other reads. If his other reads are shit, then chances are strong he's not town.
And it is clearly obvious Adam was bussed, seeing as there was almost no resistance to the lynch. Everyone wanted him to die except perhaps Clarity (and I'd consider him town)
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On December 12 2012 14:55 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 14:39 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: I was serious regarding a grush lynch. This guy is just a liability. I actually have a read on him now, and it's town. What do you think about his actual filter, not his meta? I'm surprised that you would be talking about a grush policy lynch after a successful D1 lynch. A policy lynch is the last thing I have on my mind going into D2 after flipping a scum on D1. btw, I've concluded that grush is probably a smart troll. He's either smart for being right about adam or he's smart for doing the thing that makes me think he's town.
I was answering to jay (he mentions that I was proposing a grush lynch as a joke in his case). During D1, I was serious when I proposed a policy lynch on grush. I don't think it's a good idea now because we have better lynch choices.
Regarding grush, I'm null on him because he doesn't explain his though process at all. And he is a liability, regardless of his alignment.
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On December 12 2012 14:55 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 14:39 Djodref wrote:
EBWOP: I was serious regarding a grush lynch. This guy is just a liability. He obviously isn't a liability considering he voted for a scum. So either he's 1) A scum bussing his partner 2) A townie that agrees with good logic Your pick. You can't call him a liability
You'll see if you ever get with him at LYLO or MYLO. Check the LVII game. Anyway, I was proposing a policy lynch on him yesterday and he is not my priority at all for tomorrow. So, let's not waste time on this one, if you don't mind.
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On December 12 2012 15:21 Djodref wrote:
Regarding grush, I'm null on him because he doesn't explain his though process at all. And he is a liability, regardless of his alignment.
If he's town he's not a liability based on what happened today.
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+ Show Spoiler [jay's post] +On December 12 2012 15:13 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 13:54 Z-BosoN wrote:
@jay
I'm tempted to agree with you, but in the first part there, where does Djo say that he wouldn't mind lynching Adam in the post you quoted? It might be that I'm sleepy, but I couldn't find it. He says it in the post under the text. Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 14:37 Djodref wrote:
@ Jay
1. I sheeped Clarity and Clarity's case was worth sheeping. But you are twisting the facts when you say that I've sheeped for voting Tunkeg. I provided my own case for Tunkeg before voting him. Also I have done more than you in this game so don't be an hypocrite.
2. I have stated multiple times than I didn't feel like Adam was the best lynch. So I've tried to promote my top scumread lynches over Adam lynch. The majority was reached for Adam's lynch without my help so I didn't need to cast my vote against him.
3. My actions before the lynch are more relevant of a town Djodref not knowing if Adam was going to flip scum or not than of a scum Djodref that would have known that Adam was going to flip scum (it was quite clear he was today's lynch after my first attempt to lead a counter bandwagon on you). It would have been easier and safer for scum me to bus Adam because I had given me this escape route before when I said that I didn't mind an Adam lynch. Ok, this is WIFOM, but you should know that my behavior before the lynch points towards a town Djodref and not a scum Djodref. The main point of my case is that you said you would help us lynch adam, and you failed to deliver.
Also your play isn't indicative of a townie who is not sure on adam. It seems to reak of a scum buddy desperately trying ot save adam. I wasnt sure on adam, but to prevent a no lynch i voted him.
@ jay
I said that I wouldn't mind an Adam lynch but that I would have preferred lynching Tunkeg or you. I didn't help to consolidate the lynch because the majority was reached without me. I was here at the deadline and I've even tried to vote Munk-E at the end but I couldn't do it properly because I was driving my car.
I've tried to lynch Tunkeg and you over Adam because you were my top scum reads. Honestly, you didn't do anything special to show that you were town after Clarity's case on you.
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On December 12 2012 15:26 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 15:21 Djodref wrote:
Regarding grush, I'm null on him because he doesn't explain his though process at all. And he is a liability, regardless of his alignment. If he's town he's not a liability based on what happened today.
Let's assume that he is town.
Today, he is not a liability, he is going to be one at LYLO if it ever happens.
Anyway, I was just answering jay's case against me. I don't think we should focus on grush for now.
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EBWOP: let's focus on vivax right now, any comment on my complementary association case ?
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I agree with a lot of the stuff said about a potential buss from vivax. But as far as bus candidates go I like munk-e or wbg's chances better.
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So your point is that if a town vivax encountered a case against him in adam's filter, he should have come up with a scum read on adam? I disagree that is always true or anywhere close to always true. He defended adam... that doesnt make him scum either because I defended adam, and there were lots of other people pushing for other lynches. I don't think the scum response to your buddy getting lynched is to hard defend them, it's to push an alternate lynch.
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My point is that he would not have defended him unless he would have had a strong townread on him.
Which is weird.
I agree that he didn't have to find him scummy but not go defending him like this.
My first reaction as town would have to defend myself or to find a scum.
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eh, my memories of people hard defending each other D1 are usually of scum hard defending a townie. I think that scum hard defending scum wouldn't be too likely
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Norway1235 Posts
Boom! That was a great lynch! Now WBG is 100% scum. Look how hard he was pushing for me after Adam got in trouble. Look how he kept including Adam as his 2nd read, while not ever pointing out why he thought he was scummy. He did this because Adam was very obv scummy, and wbg not mentioning adam as scummy would look really bad for him. Also look at adams read post how hard he tried to distance himself from wbg, "agreeing" with my read on him. Also look at how wbg have presented his arguements (word twisting and misrepresenting facts) and his silly "80% Palmar is scum".
WBG must be lynched day 2. Palmar got to be protected if we got a jailkeeper. Also if we got a cop look into someone trying to push my case, voting me and/or push/vote some other case after Adam got mentioned in Palmars video.
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On December 12 2012 16:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
eh, my memories of people hard defending each other D1 are usually of scum hard defending a townie. I think that scum hard defending scum wouldn't be too likely
He did it when it was not sure yet that Adam would be lynched.
And he discedited people voting Adam. ”there is scum pn this wagon”
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Tunkeg, let's go into a fantasy world for a second.
In this fantasy world, neither of us thinks the other is scum. Who is scum then?
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WBG what do you think about my case on Djodref
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On December 12 2012 16:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Tunkeg, let's go into a fantasy world for a second.
In this fantasy world, neither of us thinks the other is scum. Who is scum then?
There is no such scenario. To find the remaining scum one would need to connect the dots between you and Adam. This will require some rereading. So given you are scum I don't have an answer atm who the rest of the scumteam. I will not speculate in anything where I have to assume you are not scum, because it is irrellevant, as I am certain you are scum...
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On December 12 2012 16:39 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 16:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Tunkeg, let's go into a fantasy world for a second.
In this fantasy world, neither of us thinks the other is scum. Who is scum then? There is no such scenario. To find the remaining scum one would need to connect the dots between you and Adam. This will require some rereading. So given you are scum I don't have an answer atm who the rest of the scumteam. I will not speculate in anything where I have to assume you are not scum, because it is irrellevant, as I am certain you are scum...
LOL
cool story bro. Even if I am scum you can't name anyone else?
Jesus you're bad at this game.
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On December 12 2012 16:37 jaybrundage wrote:
WBG what do you think about my case on Djodref
I haven't read it, but I don't think Djo is scum. I'll read it when I have time (probably some time tomorrow.)
I have to go sleep/study for my exam tomorrow morning.
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