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Yo, debears, please do actually answer this:
On November 30 2012 10:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
@debears: Did you give Xatalos your CONFIDENCE speech?
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On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.
I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.
I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.
As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will). DoYouHas Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play? As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do
Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.
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Actually marv I have a slight town read on you
Ok guys I looked up Marv's previous games for games where he says he is town early on.
He has not done in his last few games as scum. He has done it twice as town
What does this mean? Something so small as saying you are town is most likely a subconscious thing. Sure, marv could have decided to do it this game, but it was right at game start. No one else had said anything like it
On November 30 2012 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi all.
Totes town ^^
Boom look at that pro analysis.
Links in the spoiler
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debears, you so silly 
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On November 30 2012 10:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
@debears: Did you give Xatalos your CONFIDENCE speech?
Nah bro never talked to the guy before
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On November 30 2012 10:41 marvellosity wrote:debears, you so silly
So silly, yet so good at the same time
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debatable 
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On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either.
DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument.
Any given sunday brah
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On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either. DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument. Any given sunday brah
Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already.
This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it.
##vote: debears
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On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.
I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.
I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.
As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will). DoYouHas Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play? As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.
That doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to sheep someone cuz of their reputation. I'm going to sheep if their case
1) makes sense
2) is good
3) I believe they are town
If he takes a town leader position, it'll be because of those things. Not because of his reputation
##Unvote
##Vote DoYouHas
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On November 30 2012 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either. DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument. Any given sunday brah Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already. This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it. ##vote: debears
Cool. You want to read my other posts which are about other stuff?
Or do you really think I could be scum?
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On November 30 2012 10:47 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either. DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument. Any given sunday brah Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already. This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it. ##vote: debears Cool. You want to read my other posts which are about other stuff? Or do you really think I could be scum?
I read your other posts. mostly meh. That post was scummy though.
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On November 30 2012 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:47 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either. DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument. Any given sunday brah Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already. This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it. ##vote: debears Cool. You want to read my other posts which are about other stuff? Or do you really think I could be scum? I read your other posts. mostly meh. That post was scummy though.
Care to tell me why they are mostly meh?
specifically on the one about the marv town read, the dandel vote, and the doyouhas vote
I find it odd that you pick out one of my least important posts while ignoring my more important ones and find me scummy from it
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On November 30 2012 10:54 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 10:47 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either. DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument. Any given sunday brah Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already. This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it. ##vote: debears Cool. You want to read my other posts which are about other stuff? Or do you really think I could be scum? I read your other posts. mostly meh. That post was scummy though. Care to tell me why they are mostly meh? specifically on the one about the marv town read, the dandel vote, and the doyouhas vote I find it odd that you pick out one of my least important posts while ignoring my more important ones and find me scummy from it
Your votes, in particular, aren't very important.
On November 30 2012 10:21 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote:On November 30 2012 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:10 DoYouHas wrote:On November 30 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos
I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out! Well that is a suspicious way of responding to BH's vote. ##Vote Xatalos Wrong. He is a noob. (no offense) you can't read too much into things like that with him. I'm a noob too, and you already lynched me  So inconsistant ##Vote Dandel@Dandel So you're going to discredit yourself amongst these players by calling yourself a noob? That doesn't make much sense from a town perspective. Also, were you being sarcastic earlier in how serious you were saying we shouldn't joke and stuff? Dandel is discrediting himself. You say it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. However, it doesn't make any more sense from a scum perspective.
On November 30 2012 10:46 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.
I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.
I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.
As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will). DoYouHas Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play? As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation. That doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to sheep someone cuz of their reputation. I'm going to sheep if their case 1) makes sense 2) is good 3) I believe they are town If he takes a town leader position, it'll be because of those things. Not because of his reputation ##Unvote
##Vote DoYouHas Then you quickly drop a new vote on DoYouHas. Because...you don't think that you would sheep Ace because he's Ace. DoYouHas does NOT want people sheeping Ace based on reputation. You want the same, but vote him because he said that?
What exactly is your reasoning for voting DoYouHas?
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On November 30 2012 10:54 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 10:51 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 10:47 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:46 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 10:43 debears wrote:On November 30 2012 10:19 DarthPunk wrote:On November 30 2012 09:49 DoYouHas wrote:
@Darth, what I remember about Xata is that he is not a bad player. With 3-4 games under his belt he may be one of the newest in the game, but I would not call him a complete noob.
What I see are multiple posts that seem uncomfortable and uncertain. His attempt at making a joke out of BH's vote just seems awkward. Making light of confrontation is classic avoidance behavior, something that I think is more likely to be true because of the awkward phrasing.
You could very well be right that this is just noob Xata being genuinely uncomfortable with the start of the game. But you are foolish if you dismiss such classically scummy behavior just because there is a different explanation.
PS: I don't think you are going to like me very much given your advice to Xata. I spend quite a bit of time on my posts regardless of alignment. All I ask is that you take his newness into account. Marv is right though It probably was unnecessary to request this given the player list. However, I don't think it caused any harm either. post how you want. I just read his post as awkward and attributed it to him attempting to over polish his posts. His case on your read that way as well. Can't say I loved his case either. DP plz stop being silly with the noobness argument. Any given sunday brah Your ridiculous. The only thing silly about it was that potentially people should have known what i was requesting already. This comment was completely unneeded, brought up something which was over, and just repeated what marv and others said about it. ##vote: debears Cool. You want to read my other posts which are about other stuff? Or do you really think I could be scum? I read your other posts. mostly meh. That post was scummy though. Care to tell me why they are mostly meh? specifically on the one about the marv town read, the dandel vote, and the doyouhas vote I find it odd that you pick out one of my least important posts while ignoring my more important ones and find me scummy from it
Ah, but if you're scum, you'd put more thought and effort into those, meaning you're less likely to slip up and let your mentality shine through than in the less important ones.
Also funny considering how you cast your own votes on relatively minor nit-picky things.
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YO blazinghand. I am not here right now I am rofling at IRC. hang on a sec. Let me take a screenshot.
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that would be highly unsportsmanlike of you DP
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Blazinghand
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im disappointing you'd do that kind of thing. I thought more of you as a player, and as a person </3
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On November 30 2012 11:01 austinmcc wrote:
Dandel is discrediting himself. You say it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. However, it doesn't make any more sense from a scum perspective.
Simply untrue. Scum have plenty to gain by being ignored. Just take a gander in Ver's guide for an example (Misder possibly)
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