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On November 19 2012 12:16 Z-BosoN wrote: Odds are these games will be concomitant. Im assuming concornitant means alongside each other.. Im thinking that this 25 player game will be slower? than the 9 player game.. | ||
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I have played quite a lot of starcraft mafia which is basically irc mafia but no forum mafia yet | ||
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Now I will always be warm  | ||
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On November 20 2012 12:40 GreYMisT wrote: Observers will need the extra time. What is this supposed to mean? lol excited!! PLEASE HURRY UP GREYMIST. | ||
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Also Prome, your meta doesnt seem to have changed a lot, still walls of text. I really dont want to do Acro suggestion right now cause most people havent even started to post yet so Im pretty sure that our supposed 'teams', if we suggest them now, will change by the end of the day. | ||
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On November 21 2012 11:32 Promethelax wrote: This here is why i want your team stated. that allows us, as a town, to view the evolution of your reads and gives us something to pressure you on and understand. Give us your team. I know you know some of the players in this game and, though you haven't played you have been present in some /obs qts. Would you be kind enough to share which games you have obs'd/ thanks As to my meta my goal is to move towards the walls of text full of content and away from the hanging out, fun atmosphere of my previous game. I'm a heavy poster but I want to start to tone down the amount of time I spend on mafia, my fiance hates me fore the amount of time I put into games and my goal is to be more exact with my posts, wasting them less. Kita: thanks for the links. Sandro; if this party will consist of three people you deem as clearly town why not let one of them be leader? Or the same party but with someone else leading them. What is it that makes you the best leader? All you have stated is why your party would be what it is. I also forgot that Kier was in this game, he would probably be on my team because <3, first guy to ever catch me as scum. I have obs Mario Mini Mafia and Newbie XXX only I think Ok prome you make sense. My proposed team with me as the party leader is Marv: He is experienced and the games I have seen him play, mario, he is a good choice. Prome: His long walls of text are better than 1 line posts.. also I like the way he plays a lot Acro: I saw him playing Acme and he was leading the town and trying his best to find scum so :D. Yay for really weird reasoning.. | ||
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Lotta Brazilians :O | ||
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Thanks for the confidence boost... ---------------------------------------------- If I'm leader I don't want to choose the three people with me. I want to choose three people to choose three people who will be on the team. They can choose themselves if they'd like. Why do this? Because it gets us more information. If I'm not chosen leader I'd like the person who IS chosen to implement this system. We still get information from who the leader chooses, AND we get information based upon who the three chosen people choose. All this does is show us that you have no confidence in your reads... Also passing the blame if town fails the mission you are leading by saying you didnt pick the party members.. Suspicious behavior | ||
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I really dont see the point | ||
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You have confident reads this early? I'm taking the decision given to one person and spreading it to four. Leader can say who he's picking and give his reasons why (if he wants to), and then the three chosen can choose who they want on the team and give their reasons why (if they want to) Out of context. I am talking about the end of the day, not now. If I am proposing myself as party leader, I would have confident reads in the 3 other people I want to choose. OTHERWISE, I will not want to be the party leader. I am not going to repeat why the information part is bad because it has been already explained | ||
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leader chooses three > three choose 3 others, can't choose themselves Leader will want to choose people who he has certain reads on, since he will want the event to succeed, and those three will want to choose someone they have a certain read on. So the leader has to crapshoot 3 people that he thinks will pick town players? This just makes it harder to complete the task successfully. Also, as Prome already pointed out, 1 mafia may cause the party to fail and since 3 people are picking 3 other people, it is more likely that they will pick a scum... | ||
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what if the leader is scum and we do it your guys' way? That is really not that bad, further along in the game, we can use this information to determine scum.. Scum cant pick all his scum buddies as odds are that some of them are lurky/new and will cause many questions to be asked.. Im really going stop talking about this, its really irritating | ||
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Party Leader has the final call though.. If he sheeps off another persons 'vote' without proper reasoning, he really doesnt look like town | ||
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On November 21 2012 13:24 Z-BosoN wrote: Lavos appears at a predetermined time we can't control OR when all mafia are dead. We want mafia dead. I only saw the town win con as Town: Defeat Lavos. So yeah.. | ||
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sorry. Also about the Keir thing with marv. He said that if he did think marv was scum he wouldnt vote him Then he said that he would have to be sure that marv was town to vote him. They are the same in my opinion, Keir has the confidence that he will either have a town or scum read on marv by the end of the day, not a null read | ||
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Also I am against roleclaims of any kind. | ||
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My point is that scum fakeclaiming could hurt us more in the party system than in the normal lynch system. Anyway since no one is considering it, I am happy :D | ||
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Get off your ass and start playing properly. Its does not help anyone when you keep making fluff posts and pissing people off | ||
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I am waiting for tommorrow/later today to propose a leader. | ||
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it could go badly if we blindly believe him What I meant to say was that with his limited contribution in the thread so far, it is difficult to know whether he is scum or town, even though he allegedly is an awesome town player and an obvious mafia player. BUT its too hard to tell RIGHT NOW. | ||
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so What's your current read on sandroba? | ||
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Sandro's idea doesnt really make that much sense now with new info. I dont see how you can confirm new players when you either succeed or fail based on hidden point values. I think that the best way of choosing a leader is someone who is experienced enough to make accurate reads and for that leader to choose the 3 highest town reads with him. I think that this is the best tactic FOR NOW | ||
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Does scum have to send in actions before they know who the party leader is? or after the whole party is made? I think you misunderstand me. My point is that we should focus on completing the tasks since that is the only way town gets an advantage. The best way to complete the tasks is the send the 4 towniest players | ||
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What's your current read on Sandroba? Since you are still here... Hopefully... | ||
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Do you have a strategy on picking the party leaders/party members? | ||
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So what do you propose we do to pick the party members. In my opinion, town's goal is to COMPLETE the first task. | ||
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Also with the HP system, I think it is difficult for anyone to die from night actions after cycle 1. | ||
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There is no point putting mostly arbitrary percentage values on the 'amount' of scumminess. Use quotes to substantiate your points. | ||
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It is a really bad idea to keep the information to yourself... You should try to help town as much as possible and that includes giving us as much information as possible!! @Clarity I am building a case on you at the moment, keep your eyes open! | ||
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He justs posts 1-line comments throughout the whole chronicler incident.. the activity makes people think he is town but he doesnt actually take a stand, just criticized chronicler. On November 21 2012 12:31 Clarity_nl wrote: Because you're throwing a second layer of wifom into the mix. Agrees with Hapa, and basically repeats what he and everyone else before said to sound like he is contributing. On November 21 2012 12:44 Clarity_nl wrote: Quantity of information does not equal quality of information. Moving on... I agree with hapa that the person we vote for has to be clear town, but not newbie town as they need to be strong analytically. Then with the Dienosore stuff, he again posts 1 liner’s criticizing deinosore.. On November 21 2012 13:55 Clarity_nl wrote: There is a special place in hell for people like you. The last post with the Diensore actually being stupid, Clarity is asking for advice from town, no willing to take a stand on his own. On November 21 2012 18:20 Clarity_nl wrote: They..... use certain verb tenses and pronoun connotations.....Asking questions a scumlord would ask? Can someone please give me a read on Dieno or tell me I should ignore him, I really want to move on from him but every time I think his idiocy stopped it returns with renewed ego. Keeps tunneling Diensore, an obvious target long after people stopped caring. Tunneling Djo on a minor issue about his assumptions. On November 21 2012 22:19 Clarity_nl wrote: Why did you work under the assumption that party members chosen would not be disclosed. Seems rather counter-intuitive to me. On November 21 2012 22:28 Clarity_nl wrote: I understand wanting to make sure, who wouldn't, but before the mod shared that info you were working under the assumption that party members chosen would not be disclosed, right? THIS IS WHY I THINK THAT CLARITY IS SCUM | ||
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The reason why we do not want to do this at this stage is because, All we know of the events are that the hidden number values that every player has will be used to complete/fail the event. They will not actually do anything to complete the event, at least to my knowledge. On day 1, our priority should be to complete the event and to do that, the party leader should take the 3 towniest players. | ||
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What I meant by take a stand was to suggest what was bad with the case and how to improve it, not actually a town/scum read. clear town, but not newbie town as they need to be strong analytically. Come on, everyone already said that the leader needs to be strong in reads, why repeat it? | ||
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Clarity is scum because posting a lot makes it seem like he is involved in the game but he isnt actually posting an opinion on anything. All he has done is criticize Deni and Chronicler and ask questions that really are not important. @Clarity, why does Djo's assumption that the party members are not disclosed have anything to do with the game? | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats, why do you assume people have a town read on me at all, let alone for activity? Why did you announce to me that you were making a case, instead of just making it? Do you actually believe I've tunneled Djo? Good I like answering questions :D What I meant by makes people think is that the quick impression of someone posting a lot is indicative of town because scum like to stay out of the spotlight if there are other people taking the heat. I announced that I was making a case in order to see your reaction. Why does it matter whether I announced or not? its not like I didnt deliver. Tunneling is the wrong word. Attacking is a better word I think I believe that after the co-host revealed information, you hopped on Djo and asked him irrelevant questions, again, in order to look townie. | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:22 Clarity_nl wrote: I asked the question to djo after the host answered because Djo asked me to hold off until we had more info from the host. Do you believe that posting one liners is scummy? Did my reaction strengthen or weaken your read on me? Your reaction didnt change my read. I believe that posting 1 liners that purely say OMGUS is scummy | ||
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Marv, goodkarma, other people who were in this thread a moment ago. I would like your opinons on this case? | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote: I like my day 1 play, I see no reason to change it. Marv and zbo both had town reads on me last game. I really do not think that your day 1 play in this game is helpful to town.. It may result in town reads but if it doesnt help town, its useless if you get killed early | ||
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I really suggest you start giving opinions on matters so that the players are able to make a read on you..; | ||
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I understanding waiting for more stuff from clarity to analyse. | ||
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On November 21 2012 23:44 Clarity_nl wrote: I think dieno is newbie town, I think you are newbie town. Marv seemed sincere in his reasons of why he isn't running. You know when you say things like this, it really makes it hard for me to think that you are town... You repeated what sandro said earlier without giving any reason on why Dieno and me are town... | ||
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Not really, your read wasnt forced out of you and you gave some reason which was too nooby to be scum which I agreed with | ||
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Ima go look through more filters and see what people have to see about clarity near the cycle end. | ||
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Ok for now, I think the party leader should be toadesstern because He started off his post with a scumread, which shows effort in reading the thread instead of mindlessly posting without actually analysing anything like almost every player so far. His posts look really sincere and his logic is spot on On November 21 2012 17:13 Toadesstern wrote: Oh and I forgot: Yeah we need to find someone to send d1 and that's all nice and fine but I don't think it's a good way to keep the talk all focused on only that. Faking townreads as mafias is incredibly easy. Faking mafiareads as mafia is something that takes effort. If we're only going to talk about who we're going to send d1 we're giving mafia an incredibly easy time skating by. I know it feels counterintuitive as clearly the shortterm "goal" is to send a good guy d1 but I think we should try and balance those issues out. After all, the goal in the longrun is to figure people out and we won't be able to do that by playing nice all day long. His posts look really hard to fake for scum and because of his reputation as being imba, I am voting Toadesstern ##Vote: Toadsstern | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:36 iamperfection wrote: anywho town kush tends to be super active from what i remember in liquid city commenting on almost anything and everything. Surprised he hasn't done much. leaning scum Shape up kush What. How come you got a read of kush after like 4 posts but have a null read on Clarity with a 3 page filter? | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:38 Clarity_nl wrote: Oats now I'm even more curious why you made a case on me, with that comment. Sorry, which comment? Also thread is kinda slow, I like to talk about stuff :D | ||
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Everyone else's was just why they should be town leader/who they think should be town leader. I made a case on you because I thought that you were acting scummily, looked through your filter and didnt really see much substance. | ||
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Currently, after reading through his filter, I have a null read on Syllo. What did you guys see that gave you a town read on Syllo? | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote: Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information. To me it seems like 999 hp is totally random. It also seems that he has prior lore knowledge about Lavos/Chrono Trigger, and thus is basing that statment on that.. | ||
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Ok that makes sense, didnt really remember the sandroba 'analysis'. | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:55 Clarity_nl wrote: But you, as yourself, have 1 data point when it comes to hp, if you are town. You don't know if it's high, or if it's low, comparatively. Maybe you can deduce by the flavor how high/low on the spectrum you are, but it seems like a weird thing to say. Also Im thinking that this seems like fishing for information... Clarity stop giving me reasons to think that you are scum. Yes confirmation bias, I would like marv/anyone to comment? | ||
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On November 22 2012 00:50 Clarity_nl wrote: Does it strike anyone else as odd that CaveJohnson mentioned an actual hp number? I've been trying to figure it out, but isn't this either a bad move as town (gives scum information about you) or .... some weird scum ploy that I can't see because I would need more information. I mean this post with the next post to look at and determine if there is an ulterior motive | ||
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@Acro Doesnt more conversations help determine alignments? Its difficult to post like 10 paragraph posts if no one posts anything to comment on.. I dont feel that the last few threads is fluff. Slow in MY OPINION. im sitting here f5ing the thread so meh. its 12am here, kinda tired. | ||
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Yes I dont know Toad, he was basically given a slot in the game so I assume that he is some what proficient in the game of mafia. 1. I dont think that a scum would start his OPENING post with a scumread. 2. I think that its hard to fake as scum because, it is likely that his scum team will have some newbies and what he said in his few paragraphs are how to see scum which I see as only being beneficial as town. 3. I am leaning town on him AT THE MOMENT because again, posts like this help to inform town not to let things like this happen. On November 21 2012 17:13 Toadesstern wrote: Oh and I forgot: Yeah we need to find someone to send d1 and that's all nice and fine but I don't think it's a good way to keep the talk all focused on only that. Faking townreads as mafias is incredibly easy. Faking mafiareads as mafia is something that takes effort. If we're only going to talk about who we're going to send d1 we're giving mafia an incredibly easy time skating by. I know it feels counterintuitive as clearly the shortterm "goal" is to send a good guy d1 but I think we should try and balance those issues out. After all, the goal in the longrun is to figure people out and we won't be able to do that by playing nice all day long. | ||
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Yay you are back. What do you think about my case on Clarity? | ||
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On November 22 2012 02:11 Toadesstern wrote: I don't think it's that much yet. I really don't want to get into detail about that though. Because? Clarity is acting like you have said is a scum read, posting a lot but without content. Or did I read your earlier posts wrongly? | ||
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I think with less than 24 hours left, we should consolidate on 2-3 candidates and let them townhunt and convince us that their party is the best, while the rest of us scum hunt ##Unvote ##Vote: Syllogism | ||
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It really isnt funny.. Anyone object to vote for either Sand/Syllo and want to propose an alternative candidate? I will take the vets metaread on Toad, which was that he was very difficult to read as either alignment. | ||
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Dieno could be scum with you, acting the fool. Maybe some roles can affect the party negatively and Dieno is one of those roles, thats why he wants to be in the party so bad. | ||
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So if you have more health than him, you kill him, or If he has more health than you, you die? | ||
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So 1 shot town vig? | ||
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So you have a null read on me now I guess Prome. Do you have any scum reads so far? | ||
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and Im thinking that marv is 3rd party actually, he doesnt really seem engaged emotionally at all. Started a random syllo wagon and didnt really justify it. | ||
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I think that it is a better idea to talk about your party members and give reasoning rather than keeping it quiet, at least for the first cycle. This way it gives us more info about the players and your reads on them which will help us when the flips start happening. | ||
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Its high risk/reward. I really think that the party leader should share party members at least in this cycle.... This will help town have more information :D | ||
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On November 22 2012 17:40 sandroba wrote: Sure but when everyone already thinks you are town fake claiming seems ultra unlikely. Makes 0 sense as mafia in his pos. Ok is dien in your party solely based on the claim, or do you have other reasons? | ||
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GoodKarma: Party Members: Oats, Djo, Sand Syllo: Party Members: He does not want to reveal at this time. Sandro: Party Members: Oats, Dien, Kush(If he doesnt die) Kita: Party Members: Acro, Dien, Prome | ||
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Who are you looking to vote for party leader? | ||
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Also with the issue brought up by some people with the lack of a contender to Syllo/Sand earlier, scum could be waiting to see what the event does to the party members before committing themselves to a course of action | ||
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I think that kush got angry and posted it in the thread instead of waiting for the cycle to end and pm'ing it to Greymist. Or he is faking it blah blah blah. We wont know until either kush comes back or the cycle ends, which is in like 10 hours? | ||
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I have been pretty active and commenting on everything, I also made one of a few proper scumreads THE ENTIRE GAME. I know that I am town, duh, so therefore, I should be on the party in order to make sure that it succeeds. Risk, read my filter and point out things you think are scummy and town, then make a read. | ||
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Also out of the 4 candidates, who are you leaning to now? | ||
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I wasnt asking people to read the case, I was asking for opinions on it, sorry if it came out that way. Too many negatives in your second sentence that I dont really understand. If I make a terrible case and no one says anything, I may unknowingly keep doing it which isnt good. I may have gone over the top and I am sorry if it irritated you. | ||
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Take 2. @Acro 1. I was warned repeatedly AFTER I voted him. The reason why I think that a scum wouldnt open with a scumread is because town CANT actually lynch at this point of time, so why bother? It was the first scumread of the game furthermore. As a newbie I wouldnt know how Toad's meta was right? At that time, his posting seemed to be more town oriented than Sandro and Syllo so I voted him. 2. I voted for Syllo A whole 9 hours after I reasoned why I voted Toad. Also after 12 pages, which he was contributing in when I saw the thread after I woke up. Also at that point I was totally off Toad and wanted to consolidate on 2-3, not ONLY SYLLO. 3. How am I backtracking if I ask for alternative proposals for leader? IIRC, this was before kita's real post on why he should be a leader and at that point, Sandro/Syllo were the only 2 candidates. 4. Yes I am not confident in my reads of people in mafia so far so I also like to take into account what others have to say in order to make a read/vote for a party leader in this situation. Now I am not too happy about Syllo's idea of keeping his party members to himself but I also dont like Sandro's proposed party members. I dont have a read on Goodkarma yet and kita needs to post more about his team and why he should be the leader before I move my vote off Syllo. My Strongest town read is Syllo at the moment, with probably Dieno and Djo too | ||
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 It took like 15 minutes to actually type it out..Our vote for party leader has to be cast before the 47 hour limit right? And 47 hours from the start is around 9 hours from now right? I dont want to wake up too late and miss the vote time. | ||
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. well. Also how hard is it to delete irrelevant parts of a quote if you are not going to address/answer them? | ||
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Syllo, what is your read on Sandro and why? Sandro, what is your read on Syllo and why? | ||
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Since you dont want to tell us your town reads | ||
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I have not really been hitting on sandro the whole game but I think that with his inactivity, there is a good chance that he is scum. | ||
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Vote: Sandro | ||
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TOWN LURKERS, BUCK UP AND START POSTING. MAFIA LURKERS, keep lurking | ||
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BioSC is a weird absence for being very excited in pregame though :/ | ||
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Your question to me was interesting. I may look into it at a later date | ||
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I suspect that if the party fails an event, they take damage. hypocrisy FTW. Ok now that you say your reason for asking, I am no longer suspicious :D | ||
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The reason why I do not want to lynch all lurkers for today at least is because there are better targets that is more than a coinflip. If this is a pressure vote, by all means though :/ | ||
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My vote is also a pressure vote on Sandro to defend himself from syllo's allegations. I think that this game is different from the looney game. Do you read his filter from both games and think that he sounds the same? I dont. | ||
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This is really been a change from the start in your posting :D I am not afk, but there has been nothing to talk about . Europeans are just waking up so we should see some stuff soon. 1. What do you think about the damage done to you and marv? Do the people that take damage indicate a certain alignment? 2. About the Cave Johnson roleclaim. I think that it is extremely sloppily done, not a lot of specific stuff.. I think that it should be looked into more closely. I would also like to know what the mafia/3rd party numbers were from previous 25 player games. HP and KP i think are really hard to get with only 1 cycle of information | ||
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i think maybe 5-6 scum, 16-17 town and 3-4 3rd party. maybe. | ||
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I dont know why he would fake it though :/ | ||
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Something I just thought of, if Sandro had been leader and failed, he couldve just said that his reads were wrong because his party consists of new players with little to no pre game experience. | ||
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On November 23 2012 19:36 Djodref wrote: @Oats The problem here is that you are sheeping syllo, voting for an inactive player and then go into useless speculation. Who would you like to lynch if sandro and CJ were already dead ? I cannot in good conscience put up an alternative candidate without using really bad reasoning. Many people in the thread have not posted in this cycle or more than a 2 page filter. This is probably due to thanksgiving but since that its over, I hope that more posts will be coming from people like Prome, Strong&Big, Iamperfections. | ||
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Sandro, my vote is on you at the moment because you have not interacted with the thread after your first few posts. Do you think that you will read scum wrongly on Syllo? IRL reasons are not really applicable at this point, if you knew that you werent free to play, you shouldnt have signed up.. Or you should do something other than complaining about it. | ||
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Then I come to when he puts a finalized list for party members. Phagga is in there with no reasoning and no prior discussion by GK. Then he tells us that it is not a strong read. This seems like he is just setting himself away from phagga should town lynch/phagga dies and flips scum. Really suspicious. He also picks dien which is basically the opposite from phagga, not a lurker and he didnt scum hunt yet IIRC. Scum would do this because he knows that dien is town and could still pull out a event win due to his claim even though him and phagga are scum. Conclusion, he has not really done anything in terms of reads other than some really uncertain reads on his party members. But he is posting a lot, so he is trying to fake being town by asking questions even though those questions dont really lead to any more information. His final party selection is really odd as Djo was more active than phagga and didnt scumhunt too IIRC, dien was also not in his criteria for picking party members.. trying to shoehorn in a scum with faulty reasoning which no one really picked up on at the time | ||
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Sandroba I think has the burden of proving other people scum/himself innocent. | ||
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Do you think that his other 2 candidates fit his criteria of semi-lurky and scumhunty? Because thats what I feel is odd. | ||
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@Djo, since you dont think sandro is mafia, and the some of the people that voted for sandro are mafia, Why do you think that risk.nuke is the scummiest out of all the votes? | ||
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Null read so far. | ||
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Yeah now that I reread it, BioSC's town read on marv looks horrifyingly weak. He bases it off of party leader strategy? Scum would do that too... Its just logic. | ||
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Why are you asking Marv that? how does this help town in ANY WAY? Isnt better to ask marv how he is important to town? | ||
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Answer it after marv gives his answer. | ||
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On November 24 2012 00:53 Djodref wrote: @Oats I'd prefer you to try to find other mafia players until he wakes up. Any comments you want to make on my case against TheChronicler ? I actually prefer to sleep, which I am going to do after I read your case again. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 23 2012 21:25 Djodref wrote: TheChronicler What is he trying to accomplish exactly ? Part I --- His Plan He wants to get elected to prevent the election of a better known player whose alignment could be difficult to assess. His campaign is mainly based around his plan. I don't want to discuss if his plan is good or not. I want to discuss the purpose of his plan His plan doesn't help us to make sure that the event is going to succeed. His plan doesn't help us to catch scum (maybe it does, but I doubt it and TheChronicler failed to explain it to us in this case) His plan helps us to get information. The promised information is green and in bold font but he doesn't explain how this beautiful information is going to help the town. My conclusion is that he didn't really think through his plan in advance and made a plan for the sake of making a plan. The motivation for scum is to look townie. You can see here that he didn't really believe in his election. You can see here that his obsession with information is faked because he goes after iamperfection when he gave a town read on Dieno. WTF ? If we apply his plan, people are not supposed to choose other people according to their town reads ?! It's true that he didn't even say on what criteria you should choose people according to his plan but I guess we can safely assume it was based on town reads. But giving town reads is now anti-town ? I've showed that TheChronicler has made a "fake" plan to look like he is contributing and a concerned town player. He didn't think it through but the most important point is that he doesn't follow the logic of his plan, which shows that he doesn't really believe in it Part II --- His vote on syllo TheChronicler voting syllo is totally incoherent with his story. In his campaign post, he proposes himself as an "unknown" player to counter the campaigns of the "known" players. Anyway, this is minor. Here TheChronicler states what kind of player he doesn't want for the town I'm fine with this. I wouldn't expect him to vote syllo because of all his previous information rant, but if he does, if would expect him to seriously assess syllo alignment. Wow, unexpected. Here I suspect TheChronicler to blend him by blindy voting for syllo. Part III --- Blending in You can find a lot of useless little remarks in TheChronicler filter. He doesn't interact by himself with the players with great town potential. Here are some remarks addressed to Oats and Dieno which function is only to add some lenght to his filter. Enters the thread with remarks for Oats and Clarity... Nitpicking in the new players filter, kinda lame... This one is addressed to iamp, but I think it is an interesting one. He is pushing people to retain information... Nice use of the red and bold font for Dieno  Here he is framing the player who turns out to be what we have the closest to be confirmed town imho.Nit-picking again ^^ Conclusion There are good chances for TheChronicler to be scum 1. The idea of making a plan for the sake of it. I think that he would of given up on it a lot faster if it was a 'joke' plan. The fact that he stuck to it and tried to convince people of it makes me think that he is town. I think that not believing in his campaign is not actually a scum trait. His main points was his idea, which he pushed A LOT. 2. I have nothing to say about the information issue but I do think that he was talking about different kinds of information. Im gonna let him clarify if he wants. 3. I think he has his reasons for voting for syllo. I do think that the way he did it is a null read. 4. 1 line posts also are not necessarily indicative of alignment. Dieno was posting nothing at that time, everyone thought so. In conclusion,I think that chronicler is town. | ||
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Hey VE. I think that until sandro comes back into the thread, my vote will be on him. Why did everyone suddenly hop off kita? GK, why is your second party so drastically different from the first party you proposed? I think for the moment I do not agree with the Cave Johnson lynch because he didnt do anything that is scum aligned, just weird. | ||
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I am confused on the information that he wants from his original plan but I suspect that he wanted associations between scum players when the flips start coming | ||
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He didnt show any examples on how clarity forced scum behavior on his posts Earlier it was brought up that the game was balanced insofar that the roles arnt randomly given, so I believe that scum must have a strong candidate who can win the election if he appears town. Sandro, can you explain more about your scum read on kita? If I am to switch off you, I must think that someone is scummier than you and kita is also under suspicion. | ||
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I thought he was 3rd party at the time, now a slight town read on him In Prome's party post, it was purely based on meta reading of the players that he is the most comfortable with as opposed any actually reads in the thread. | ||
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Yes chroniclers idea is bad, get off his back. If the party had failed the event, there might not even be a lynch cycle so saying that a failed party might be better for scum hunting is irrelevent. Djo, now that BioSC has been replaced, who is your top scum read? | ||
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Do you have specific stuff that showed that he didnt care about the plan but was doing it for appearences sake? Do you have any other reads? Scum or otherwise? What do you think about Sandro's defence post? | ||
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@Sandro, Syllo still took damage last night.. so why are you lying? @Syllo, Hopefully the canine will be fine. :D | ||
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Now the question is, Do we believe Sandro? Sandro, do you want to full roleclaim? hmm a conundrum... | ||
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It is an easy claim as scum to make because, 1. He got roleblocked so obviously it didnt go through. 2. Since he is familiar with the lore, its not difficult to make up a skill. 3. Syllo is the best target to put protective skills so it seems believable. 4. This claim is really late, why didnt he say it in his opening post where he lists the damage taken and the roleblock and waiting until now, where there isnt a lot of activity? | ||
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Lets go through the sequence of events, 1. Sandro posts that he is roleblocked. 2. Prome imply's that he did the roleblock and it had a special ability showing who the target attacked that cycle. 3. Sandro then claims the ability, Shadow and says he targeted Syllo, which basically again, imply's that Sandro is town. | ||
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LOL its an easy bandwagon to jump onto at this point, also easy to jump off it. Yes I think that we should wait until some flips but meh, just thinking. Djo why dont you change your vote of VE? | ||
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How would kita revealing his guess do anything? Like whether he is lying about the guessing game if we lynch the guy other than what he guessed? I really think that adds some unneeded bias into who to lynch | ||
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Kita has like 0 town cred now. And I dont think that he is well-known for his reads so why would people basically sheep him? Sandro, I am eagerly waiting for expanded scum reads on Kita, Clarity and Prome | ||
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The difference is that Sandro could very well be lynched while marv basically cant be lynched this cycle. Marv can do his pushing and prodding a lot more subtly while Sandro has to get himself out of a lynch | ||
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Yeah I thought that day 1 marv seemed really detached and not involved, day 2 marv is looking a whole lot better. I would say town yet, but I dont have a scum read on him. REASONS FOR VOTING SANDRO. His party campaign had no feeling, he didnt feel involved in actually pushing his own campaign, I.E. he did it for the pure reason of LOOKING town. 1 thing that I felt was really weird, earlier, Sandro justified that he was town because he picked 2 of the final 3 party members. I really do not think that being able to 'predict' the party is alignment indicative and it irks me that an experienced vet would think differently. His first post after the 'flip' felt whiny and defensive. He gives like 3 scumreads without explaining further and still hasnt explained any of them. He did not post any strong town reads the whole game and he gives a weak explanation that he goes by gut feeling that is hard to explain. I find this hard to believe because he is 'famed' for his scum reads and from what I have seen on TL Mafia, nobody votes for someone else's gut feeling without proper explaination | ||
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I would say town yet, but I dont have a scum read on him. I wouldnt say town yet | ||
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Would a mafia player that is under heavy suspicion from sheeping votes but no clear case push reads? or wait for a clear case on another player, which is kita or Cave Johnson at this this point and push that case hard? | ||
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Sandro needs to post a great case on another player to get out of the lynch. | ||
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Tell us or dont tell us. | ||
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Im getting a newbie town vibe from him, although he claims that he already played a year.. hmm. Im gonna look through this conundrum tommorrow. | ||
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1. Phagga. His reasoning is really weak for voting for Kita as opposed to voting for either Syllo/Sand. Furthermore he is not comfortable of 1 of the players in the party, Prome. Why would town phagga vote for kita when he is not comfortable with prome? If 1 scum is in the party, the party would fail, the thread thinks. On November 22 2012 18:55 phagga wrote: I have not read all the posts yet, I just arrived at the point where Syllo addresses Sandro regarding unanswered questions here. I have not named a candidate yet because I do not have a clear town read on one yet. I was leaning on Sandroba the whole time, and I also tend to think that Syllo is town. However, I only have a very rough idea on how these guys play scum, and I don't trust them enough yet. Also I don't like it at all that they are almost uncontested. As someone said earlier, mafia should have an interest at getting this spot too, and somehow I would expect some heavier resistance. Unless Sand and Syllo are both scum, of course, but Orcams Razor probably says no. Kita was always in the back of my head because I liked his opening post. I was aware that he went MIA for a while, but I still thought that his candidature was serious. So when I realized that barely anyone talked about him, I thought I'd use Acros post to see if I could get some info on what people thought about him. Also, as I wrote earlier, I do think more competition is needed, and since Toad is out of the race, that leaves Kita as the most promising competitor to Sandro/Syllo. Regarding his proposed team: Dieno has claimed after I talked about the possibility to be 3rd party, and the way is behaving I think I could meanwhile accept him in the party, although there are other players that I would prefer. Prom is the one I feel really unsure about. I hope Kita thinks that one over. Nevertheless, for the time being, he gets my vote. ##Vote Kitaman Goodkarmas candidature comes surprising, and I first liked his approach for the candidature. However, I voiced my suspicion of him yesterday, and his choice of Sandro for the team looks like a joke, as you can see in my questions to him. I will be very busy today. I should be in the thread for sure in the last 2-3 hours before deadline. Hopefully I will be able to interact some more earlier. However, other than this, his activity looks pretty town aligned to me. He shows interest in finding scum and his posts have good reasoning and logic. 2. VE. This player is interesting because he replaced BioSC, a player who was VERY EXCITED before the game began but posted practically nothing and asked to be replaced out. VE was also really excited for the game, before he knew he was replacing in. VE then posts a long ass posts with 2 scum reads which frankly are not very well explained. He then disappears. I find this interesting because 2 excited players, suddenly become extremely quiet when they are in the game. Could it be related to their role? or their alignment. For now I think that we should keep an eye on VE, if he continues to be silent, I would find it very suspicious | ||
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Have fun :D I totally agree with marv on kita at this point. Should we let Sandro slide on the basis of if he is town, he is brillant. or should we vote Sandro because he has done nothing that benefits town so far. | ||
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I am speculating about the role being related to their activity, this is a GreyMist game, any role could be possible. I just find it odd that 2 very excited players shut down immediately on their posting and caring about the game in general. | ||
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For now though, I think that sandro is scummier. | ||
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Your case is ok, but I would like to see some defense from Toad and since that is not happening, I dont feel comfortable with a Toad lynch today | ||
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I am still not convinced that Toad is scum. Is he the only other wagon, thats why you guys are voting for him? | ||
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Kita, what I understand is that if I vote for you for party leader this cycle, someone will take damage. | ||
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or yeah, 10 cycles until Lavos appears, that makes sense. | ||
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I move that we select me or Dieno. | ||
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Acro, Marv, Clarity. I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment. Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him. | ||
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Hmm is there a scum reason for doing this? YES THERE IS. Toad was under pressure last cycle, chronicler was also under pressure. So fake a 'dt' check and BAM TOAD IS SCUM | ||
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Why did you check those 2 players? Toad had nothing on him during cycle 1. | ||
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I do not agree with Kita. Scum could convince Dieno to vote them and there is no onus on the party leader to find out who is town. | ||
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Also I am roleclaiming to prevent scum from claiming first. And also to be on the team and the party leader I am Robo I have an ability that can hit for 50hp. I cant use it consecutive nights. On November 23 2012 07:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Do the mods need a machine to do the counting for them? lol I have not really been hitting on sandro the whole game but I think that with his inactivity, there is a good chance that he is scum. Machine = robot=robo I targeted sandro in the first cycle. | ||
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Cause Im claiming a role from 2300 AD which we are in right now. Party Leader might get bonuses + Same era. Also I have other abilities. hehehe. | ||
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Did you take any damage last cycle? | ||
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About marv, yeah his day 1 play worried me too but his 'excuse' was that he was not the most vet and that he wasnt comfortable in themed games, which is totally understandable. I am reading him mostly based on his day 2 play because I had a null read on day 1. Acro, you are being awfully opaque about why you do not want to be in the party, mind explaining? Also I think that I might want to take Syllo as that only leaves 2 contentious decisions. | ||
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I will take Dieno (Froggy :D) | ||
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15 page filter. Lotta 1 liners. On November 21 2012 22:28 marvellosity wrote: I'm not interested at running for party leader atm. And it's not about gauging support, I'd probably just tell town to vote for me from the get go if I wanted it. Why don't I want it? Like syllo I've been hoping to be somewhat 'lazy'. While I will give this game my full attention like any other, partly I've come along for the ride. I don't want to dominate this game (for better or worse) like I'm capable of doing. Plus I don't feel very at home in themed setups like this. There are going to be some differences in how scum/town players act compared to normal setups, and I don't know what they are yet. There are a few players in this game who I hold in extremely high regard (I think are better than me) and in that situation I feel somewhat insecure. If those players weren't in the game I'm pretty sure I would be standing for party leader because I'd think I knew best out of everyone playing, but I don't think that in this game. This sounds extremely genuine and not at all what scum would do. He was the first to vote syllo. I think that the damage he took also shows that he isnt scum, Marv wasnt on anyone scumdar so therefore scum attacked him. About Chronicler, I also have no reason to doubt his claim on checking Toad and sandro. So. My Team is. Dieno Marv Chronicler AT THIS POINT | ||
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Either Toadsstern is scum/ Chronicler is scum I dont really see how Toadsstern's role is necessarily town oriented though :/ | ||
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Also what read do you have on Marv? Also anyone want to claim hitting marv? Chronicler came from his claim that Toad and Sandro are the same alignment | ||
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ok bad question but WHAT read do you have on Marv right now? | ||
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Also, who would you pick as the other 2 members of the party? | ||
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Clarity, day 1 he had a lot of useless 1 liners but he has improved from there, I have a slight town read on him but after thinking about it, I think that he shouldnt be in the party | ||
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ok. Then do you also agree that chronicler's win-con is town oriented? So therefore, he should have a good hidden number thing. | ||
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. Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer | ||
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Yes I have full hp at the moment :D Djo, First thing I find wrong with your post. You think that you are a vet. Do you seriously think that you can use the 'item' better than me or dien? Do we completely lack logic? Second thing I find wrong, what is this concentration of power you speak of? Only syllo has an 'item' that he mentioned very briefly. We are still 'confirming' 2 more town people that could lead the party in the next event. | ||
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Is your main point to confirm townies? Or to complete the event? Because if we fail the event, we have 3 people to lynch and only 1 of them is mafia, I think. So it would be really easy to mislynch at this point. Playing safe is the best way to play in the situation we are in now. | ||
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We have a great advantage at the point, 1 dead scum and 1 basically confirmed scum. I really dont want us to lose it by playing too risky which I think that your plan is | ||
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but seriously, we still have 36 hours, I say we pressure the lurkers into doing stuff. VE Is your silence role related? Hopeless, where did you go? risk.nuke, what do you think about voting for me/dieno? | ||
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It was so fucking good :D. So full..... Also yeah, Prome sounds extremely powerful, I/E not town but that is one of the worst reasoning for lynching someone. Its like a single nail when you need the coffin | ||
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I also think that the ability is targeted towards a scum player because a town player wouldve told us the reason. WIFOM ftw :D | ||
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Anyone see any significance in the KST? as opposed to CST which is Grey's timezone I think. Prome, I said it didnt mean much.. Defensive much? | ||
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Irritated Prome is looking more town :D | ||
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Like Syllo was meant to be in marvs place so they attacked marv? | ||
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How does Prome know that there is factional KP? If it exists, it seems pretty low considering dieno got hit for 400+ and marv got hit by 200 but the factional KP is 125? | ||
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Sandro got hit with 125. Djo your speculation on who they WANTED to bus syllo with is really weird. You are full-on GUESSING at this point. Please stop. | ||
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Yeah Acro I agree. Djo is addicted to speculating.... | ||
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Acro, I actually laughed at loud at that. Got a few weird looks :/a | ||
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Why in the flipping world would you not take Dien with you? WHY? | ||
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Hey Adam, who do you think should be the party leader this cycle? | ||
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My Current Party will be Clarity Dien Marv Me. Any issues you guys want my opinion on? | ||
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ALTHOUGH after clarity was basically definately in the party, he disappeared. hmm. | ||
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Where did Kita go too? And VE made 1 post and scooted.. I really think that it is role based based on what you guys said about him being excited about playing as scum. | ||
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Ended up with Lets wait and see. pretty sure nothing else :/ Skimmed it. | ||
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My post on why Chronicler could be scum is just playing devils advocate. | ||
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If he is scum and included and we fail, he is immediately under suspicion. If he is town, it is good for town that he is telling us this. I think that scum think it is too big a risk to try to get a scum into the party and hope that it gets confirmed. | ||
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I think that for now, the players in the successful quests should not be investigated. There are so many more people who arnt inside the quests. HOWEVER, should we reach a point where everyone has gone on successful quests, then that is not applicable. | ||
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I thought that that wasnt beneficial for scum. Ok now I think thats it is definately not a SCUM tell. | ||
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Based on the flavour for the first event, I think that it is safe to say we wont be lynching if we didnt win it. HOWEVER that is just based on 1 event. Speculation is all and good but it should be at least more than a slightly educated guess. | ||
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RIGHT? Also that if we see someone pushing hard to be in the party, i/e Djo. We should be more suspicious of them | ||
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Also now I dont think you are scum :D | ||
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:D I agree that kita doesnt seem like scum, he has not been pushing anything other than his own election into a party. | ||
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Cycle will end in about 9 hours, There is still time for scumhunting BOYS. Dont get lazy and just wait until Toad flips before scumhunting. Please also think about ability use, like heals and attacks and roleblocks and stuff. | ||
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NOOOO MARV!! I WILL TAKE REVENGE ON CLARITY !!! AND GMARSHAL!! | ||
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Also can I trade my pistol with yours? | ||
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Do you think that your rolename and stuff is worth wasting a roleblock+your role abilities over? Or do you think that Syllo is scum. | ||
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Other than the fact that Djo defended you, which I think its his meta, is there anything else that makes you think he is scum? I think that Dien should be leader at least to see if he gets his sword back+if all town's healing is on him, he probably wont die | ||
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I said that maybe he will get his sword back, maybe not. The item I got was not role/flavour related in anyway. | ||
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Unless you healed? | ||
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We can use the next 2 days to discuss setup though :/ I mean I will get all irritated and shit but we can. | ||
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Whatever. So you got hit for 100, how does this decide who to lynch/who is town/scum??? | ||
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Acro get out your codesolving book and tell us the message | ||
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Also Vote: Diensore | ||
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Seriously, what makes you so much better than Dieno? He is basically confirmed town, you are on the verge of scum. If you are town, why is Dieno confirmed and you are not? | ||
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He totally ignores the fact that he is the party that failed. Also getting hit that is unclaimed doesnt = town. He doesnt even mention Acro until after your case. GK why did you hit CJ? do you think he is lying? why not hit kita or Acro who you think is suspicious? | ||
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##Lynch Toad ##Party Leader: Clarity | ||
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And Keir instead of me or dieno? | ||
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Kita do you want to share? | ||
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On November 30 2012 02:59 goodkarma wrote: ##Lynch: Goodkarma ##Party Leader: Keirathi | ||
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I dont understand.. | ||
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Doesnt it make it easier for scum to target? Since there is a distinct advantage in killing off party members. | ||
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so I didnt get healed. I am up for Stealing the sword and sending me to punch flea in the face ##Slash: A ##Flea: E | ||
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I still have a lot of hp, Heals are appreciated | ||
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Also, Strong and Big is scum so vigi him :D | ||
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And the cycle I got hit for 250, I used an ability like a vet which damages vistors hp by 100, which S&B claimed. Then he claimed he visited me, so circumstancial evidence backed up by inactivity even after he got back from overseas. | ||
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LINK?? | ||
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I would like someone other than Acro to suggest the vote, IN CASE ACRO is not town aligned | ||
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I dont think he is scum, but has anyone else played the game and have an opinion? | ||
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Also GK, how do you propose SnB check anyone? As far as I know, his only ability is a 250 damage nuke/ factional kp | ||
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lol k you get internet points hapa :D | ||
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Really not good for scum though, they need a lot of active people to get in the game | ||
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also syllo, you should totes claim so you can get the benefit of the 250 visible damage and the 300 invisible raise on your hp | ||
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I like my lovely hp :D | ||
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On December 03 2012 01:07 strongandbig wrote: um i've been assuming that the way it's calculated is "current hp = max hp - damage" and that "max hp" and "damage" are the two numbers that the hosts keep track of on their spreadsheet. if my ability doesn't work that way then it's seriously terrible actually, maybe that would make sense as a town ability if the hosts thought there was sure to be a small group of confirmed or semi-confirmed townies who we would focus fire healing on? i still think that would be terrible though, i never even really considered it. Wtf is this? You dont think its a town ability already? | ||
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So hmm. Also I think I was the only one who didnt get damaged by the votes :D Unless Djo is fakeclaiming damage | ||
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see you guys after the night post/cycle post thing whatever. | ||
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I would really need a heal Also, wow that sucked | ||
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he already died in his other game and still is not showing up here. | ||
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Also, from what you guys are saying, abilities are not hitting the intended targets quite often, so I think that it is risky to use 1 shot things at these times.. | ||
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I think my vet ability is cooler Its called Poximity bomb I can only assume that it gives the pox to all the people who visit me | ||
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You have 1 ability only? Also Prome, how does claiming ability names do anything? | ||
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Read through Z-Bo's Filter, I am leaning town. | ||
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Seriously into replacement/modkill territory | ||
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As far as I know we havent actually lost anyone there. Also I really dont think it matters ALL that much where we go other than where people get bonuses. | ||
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1. I dont really need a heal, as far as I know, I am at full health. 2. No. 3. LAMP SHINES LIGHT!!!! ! 4. I would like to be in the party cause all the parties I have been in, excluding the car crash of the magnus on have succeeded. I am suspicious of Acro though, everyone sheeped him and we ended up losing the event. Just putting it out there. | ||
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Lynch risk currently but I would like to think about it for a bit | ||
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I didnt get damaged in any way, shape or form. <3 Clarity :D Scum possibilities are Z-bo+Austin Hopeless Phagga Adam Right? | ||
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Flavorwise, I think I have the best k/d | ||
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Why there, and why that person? And why are you voting now? | ||
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It may not be scummy, I dont know. What changed from like 3 cycles ago, when you were saying that you should be lynched blah blah? Also, All 75 damage caused origined from me and syllo. I think. | ||
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Sorry. Anyway, strong and big was scum mainly cause the abilities he used didnt really match up with what he was saying so why not use that to find more scum. Do you agree that there is at least 1 scum on the list? | ||
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It was a quick look through, also I read through z-bos filter and I dont think that its scummy | ||
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About the n1 shield. He claimed 100 damage right? Who claimed the hit on him? What is the scum motivation for fakeclaiming a shield on Hapa cycle 1? | ||
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What was the bullshit wall of text you just posted? You want to get lynched? | ||
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He bascially commentates the actions used. Thats it. I would expect more effort trying not to get mislynched. | ||
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Well if austin can write a long post about 4 people, he can write a really long post for the person that he thinks is scum. | ||
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Short answer is fine. No I have never played a game with you. | ||
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I claim some of the 75 damage flying around but anything else? | ||
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Oh those, I hit z-bo, dont know about the rest. | ||
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I really dont see that its worth claiming. | ||
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Really, I dont think its good to keep following this line of thought, its a waste of time that we can use to find scum. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Phagga ##Travel To: Prehistory | ||
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I didnt get hit/rb. Yeah I think austin is scum. | ||
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And since you want to stack heals, is it a good idea to claim hp now? Or else it kinda wastes the heals if they are used on the wrong people | ||
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Also you must have an opinion of who to roleblock. | ||
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Why not kita if you want to kill a 3rd party then? Acro has been pretty helpful for town, kita, not so much | ||
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On December 10 2012 11:36 Promethelax wrote: Not necessarily. I'll know that when I have all the information. What. So what changed from earlier from not wanting me even to claim the name of an ability to wanting people's role names?? | ||
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And town's wincon is to kill lavos. | ||
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Although something against Acro, All the actions we did in the 'boss fight', we sheeped off Acro and we failed+Dieno and Djo died. SO... | ||
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However, that is what scum wants right? To fail important missions and get townies killed. I am not blaming him, I am saying that we sheeped him. I mean, if scum had extra knowledge about the fight, they wouldve been happy to sheep Acro. If Acro isnt scum. | ||
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So much effort put in :O | ||
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Anyway there is no way you could be looking scummier than you currently are. | ||
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why? Cause you are the last scum :D Simple. | ||
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Why should we kill acro? Do you think we will lose the game if he stays alive and you dont? | ||
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Again, since when is lynching 3rd party better than someone who almost everyone thinks is scum? | ||
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Full Claim. I have 3 abilities. I can only use 1 at a time Rocket punch deals 50 damage but cant be used twice in a row. Poximity bomb deals 100 damage to whoever visits me Heal Beam heals/protects my target for 100 hp. The 75 damage was from a pistol I got by being the leader of a successful party. | ||
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Who else would hit me for such a staggering amount of HP? Austin did an ability called, self-destruct right? But it wasnt listed anywhere in his pm so.. I dont know. | ||
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I will be going somewhere with no internet for the next 4 days, so I expect the game to be over by the time I get back. GG ALL :D | ||
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