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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:23 Clarity_nl wrote: marv is there anything in your colouring book that's significantly different than the general consensus? On who would you say there's a "general consensus"? I don't really get this question. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:50 marvellosity wrote: On who would you say there's a "general consensus"? I don't really get this question. I'd say sand is under the spotlight for being scummy, and all the party members and some others are considered townie. I'm just asking if you think you've noticed something that others might have not. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
I am very uncomfortable with you being a smurf, but playing like a noobie. If you are, in fact, a noobie hiding on a smurf (like we had in HRM) for TL reasons, claiming your identity will not suddenly set lights flashing everywhere. However, if you are someone acting as a misguided noobie as some hairbrained scheme, we need to know. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:52 Clarity_nl wrote: I'd say sand is under the spotlight for being scummy, and all the party members and some others are considered townie. I'm just asking if you think you've noticed something that others might have not. Well, I've mentioned my views on all of these people this cycle. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 23 2012 09:11 TheChronicler wrote: I would be really interested in seeing how sand flips at this point. He'd be really useful as a reference for some people in this thread. I won't put my vote on him until I make a case, though. It's turkey day and I just checked in to see the result of the event. I'll be home in about eight hours. If anything is "testing the water", this is it. Also, lynching Sandroba for information? This post stinks. Other than that I cannot find anything one way or the other in his filter. I do feel TheChronicler is not a total noob from his general knowledge and some random comments he made. Which makes me even MORE curious as to why he is smurfing. He's either someone extremely experienced who is faking a bad plan just to fuck with us, or is someone who is not actually that experienced at all and truly thought the suggestion was good. The former seems very unlikely. The latter I don't know who might feel the need to get away from their meta. In closing, I find TheChronicler more confusing than anything else right now. I agree with Marv that the way the plan was presented and then backed down from felt townie at the time. However, I am back to null after thinking about it a bit more. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:01 Djodref wrote: @goodkarma @goodkarma Can I ask you for more detailed reasons for your previous town read on me ? How did this read evolve ? Was I really one of your top 3 townreads at that time ? How could you take someone on your party with only a weak read on him ? I have some difficulties to believe this because we have never played together and I usually come off as scummy at first sight. I didn't pay too much attention to it the first time because I was kind of proud that you picked me  I don't have anything more to say than what's already in my filter about why it was I picked you. As for why I'd choose a weak town read, which is a question a few people have asked: I simply did not have three strong town reads on my list. It may feel "cheap," but you're going to have to accept that getting multiple strong early town reads on a bunch of people I've never played with before has never been my forte. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 23 2012 21:54 sandroba wrote: @draz are your abilities provable? i.e can you tell us what you intend to do at each deadline? I think this claim is a little too far fetched to be a fake claim. I can't fathom someone fake claiming 20+ different abilities and if he can tell us before he uses it we can verify. You do realize you are saying that a guy who fakeclaimed "Crazed Monk from the Swiss Confederation" is making a crazy fakeclaim is farfetched? This is Drazerk, the compulsive liar we are talking about here, okay? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On November 24 2012 00:47 Djodref wrote: @risk.nuke Well, obviously it didn't work because sandro is supposedly sleeping now. What do you plan to do now ? Play the waiting game. | ||
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TheChronicler
Macedonia260 Posts
On November 24 2012 01:52 Acrofales wrote: @Chronicler: I think it's important to clear some stuff up and for that you will have to unsmurf. I am very uncomfortable with you being a smurf, but playing like a noobie. If you are, in fact, a noobie hiding on a smurf (like we had in HRM) for TL reasons, claiming your identity will not suddenly set lights flashing everywhere. However, if you are someone acting as a misguided noobie as some hairbrained scheme, we need to know. Just like I told marv, I won't be unsmurfing. I'm alive and didn't take any damage, don't think I'm playing like a noob at all. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 23 2012 23:24 strongandbig wrote: Hey thread I'm at the airport Flying to visit my old college roommate in Britain I'll post as much as I can but idk how consistent wifi ill have Plz not to kill me like last time I went on vacation - that's the only time I've ever been mostly chef an I'd rather not repeat it Maybe it has something to do with your scum meta being to lurk the shit out of a game... You'd better deliver when you get back. When you were around I kinda liked your posting, but not enough to make me confident of your alignment. I know you can play better than this. | ||
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TheChronicler
Macedonia260 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 24 2012 02:25 TheChronicler wrote: Just like I told marv, I won't be unsmurfing. I'm alive and didn't take any damage, don't think I'm playing like a noob at all. Okay, so you're not picking the easy way out. Did you have some ulterior motive with your plan, or did you suggest it as a serious idea? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 24 2012 02:27 TheChronicler wrote: I also like how I'm the scrub smurf and draz is just sitting up the thread. Well, Draz shits up the thread as either alignment and the best policy on him is to ignore him until you want to lynch him. The fact that Draz HASN'T been shitting up the thread all that much at all, is actually indicative of his town meta. Deflecting much? We're talking about you. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 24 2012 02:12 Acrofales wrote: @Djodref: I went back and looked at your case, now that I have assessed his filter independently. I think your explanation is plausible. This is something I would totally do as scum. I would even push my "bad plan" even more. I don't like that how he chose the people to interact with also. He made remarks on Oats, Clarity, Dieno, iamp and Toad. But he stays away from the stronger players. Him voting on syllo without any assessment of syllo's alignment when he said he was very afraid that we vote a mafia player as a party leader is weird and not necessarily coming from a mafia playe, but the fact that syllo party platform is in his essence in opposition of his own platform shows that he didn't really consider his plan as serious from the beginning in my opinion. Moreover, he failed to show us what his plan was going to achieve for town. As town, even if you come with a bad plan with flaws and stuff, there should always be a direct advantage for the town. Here, we get information because people chose people with certain reads on them. Where is the benefit for town ? There are plenty ways of generating information. For example, your first idea, Acro, that everybody should announce their initial party and then change some members, was not bad. The whole thing was a fake imho. His story is not coherent. | ||
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TheChronicler
Macedonia260 Posts
On November 24 2012 02:28 Acrofales wrote: Okay, so you're not picking the easy way out. Did you have some ulterior motive with your plan, or did you suggest it as a serious idea? The revised edition was my original plan but as I was posting it I got cute. Don't know why, that was bad. Was serious about the revised plan. I still think it was a good idea, but if I'm the only one thinking that it must have been bad. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 24 2012 00:33 iamperfection wrote:  Also for anyone having douubts this is town marv again his hearts in it oncce again right marv?? Worst reasoning in the history of terrible reasoning. You place a blatantly obvious "trap", he sidesteps it with a quip and you declare him town? I will give you the benefit of the doubt: what answer would have made you yell "hah, scumbag, I knew it"? And what about this answer confirmed marv as town in your eyes? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 24 2012 02:27 TheChronicler wrote: I also like how I'm the scrub smurf and draz is just sitting up the thread. Are you going to be here for a while ? I would appreciate you to address my case and answer my questions and stuff ^^ 1. I would like you to explain me why iamp should not have stated that Dieno was a town read 2. I would like you to tell me about your experience on playing mafia on forums. 3. I would really appreciate you to explain me how you could vote for syllo with his platform. 4. And I think we also have to discuss about the real goal of your plan. I also want to know what was the "information" you were talking about and how town could have used it. 5. What the fuck were the "certain reads" ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18108 Posts
On November 24 2012 02:36 TheChronicler wrote: The revised edition was my original plan but as I was posting it I got cute. Don't know why, that was bad. Was serious about the revised plan. I still think it was a good idea, but if I'm the only one thinking that it must have been bad. Yes... and my million dollar question is how someone who is apparently fairly experienced in mafia could not see that this plan was bad. The main problem is that the rest of your play has been fairly standard. You're not ranting like a maniac, like Risen or Bluelightz, and you're not derping it up with crazy logic like BM. Which means you *should* have been able to see how bad that plan was. And that is what's bugging me. Because if you knew how bad the plan was, then there is no town motivation for posting it. And that's why I want to know your identity. If you are prone to derps like thinking that that plan was good, then you might be town, but otherwise I can only see scum motivations for posting that. Now, lets move on to the other stuff Djodref pointed out: explain your vote for Syllo. | ||
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