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I've just realized that I forgot to change my vote. Anyway, here are the players I would like to be lynch candidates for today so far.- BioSC, for lurking while he should be excited to participate in this game ("Lynch a Lurker Policy")
- CaveJohnson, for his obvious fakeclaim and general trolly behavior ("Lynch all Liars", "Lynch Liabilities" policies)
- TheChronicler, who is suspect to be a scum
I would rather lynch BioSC than sandroba following the "Lynch a Lurker" policy because sandroba has contributed in a useful way with his sound plan to compose his party. I do not want to sheep syllo on a scum sandroba and I don't personally see the difference between this game and the Looney game for the moment.
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EBWOP:##Unvote
##Vote: TheChronicler
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Oh my it seems I'm the only person in the game that doesn't get to have a real life every so often. I spent the night at a girl's house ytd and only got home now. I thought I would give the thread a quick read before heading to bed (yes my sleep schedule is severely fucked up) and I see that suddenly I became the main wagon. Nice. Weekend is ahead and it will be extremelly busy and now I have to fight syllo induced mislynch just to prob face the same problem again the next day. Thx. I'll be here briefily if anyone want to interact, but I'm heading to bed.
I took 125 dmg and got roleblocked.
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@draz are your abilities provable? i.e can you tell us what you intend to do at each deadline?
I think this claim is a little too far fetched to be a fake claim. I can't fathom someone fake claiming 20+ different abilities and if he can tell us before he uses it we can verify.
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On November 23 2012 21:33 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. Reading through Hapa's filter in a more calm and collected time kinda put my suspicions to rest. I see nothing there that screams scum.
The aggression at Keirathi felt forced, but that is about it. He seems open and completely willing to share his thoughts at all times. Also, his reason for running against Syllo follows in a clean, coherent line from his earlier posts.
I haven't read a scum game by him, and by reputation I know he can be crafty, however I see no reason to think that that is actually the case at the moment.
Next up: GoodKarma.
@Acro
I'm glad that you came to this conclusion wrt Hapa. He seems genuine and I guess that he has gradually understood the implications of the setup regarding how we have to approach the election on a party leader. I understand and I respect his position against syllo's plan and I doubt that he faked his late candidature to promote his ideas. On top of that, I agreed with his ticket. I have a slight town read on Hapa for the moment.
My suspicions at your regard were based on your trust on my candidature when you didn't show a great interest in my plan. You didn't really address them but I'm glad that you voted syllo at the end. You look like you really want to figure out this game for the moment and you are active and contributing in a constructive way. So I would say that you are town if I had to decide right now.
I'm curious to hear your feedback on goodkarma.
What do you think of TheChronicler ?
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I dont think that his claim is a fake claim. However he 'knows' his hidden number value which is an all out lie. I wonder what else he is lying about...
Sandro, my vote is on you at the moment because you have not interacted with the thread after your first few posts.
Do you think that you will read scum wrongly on Syllo?
IRL reasons are not really applicable at this point, if you knew that you werent free to play, you shouldnt have signed up.. Or you should do something other than complaining about it.
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I am free to play, I'm posting more than the average person and I've contributed a lot. Mind you that 2 out of the 3 people syllo took with him I was planning on taking. I gave out a town read on syllo very early on.
As to your question, obviously, since I am town. He has been paranoid about my alignment a lot of times in the past (of the top of my head merc mini mafia and that huge 80 player game), but normally he reaches the correct conclusion soon enough.
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On November 23 2012 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think that his claim is a fake claim. However he 'knows' his hidden number value which is an all out lie. I wonder what else he is lying about...
Sandro, my vote is on you at the moment because you have not interacted with the thread after your first few posts.
Do you think that you will read scum wrongly on Syllo?
IRL reasons are not really applicable at this point, if you knew that you werent free to play, you shouldnt have signed up.. Or you should do something other than complaining about it.
@Oats
Are you familiar with the Chrono Trigger Universe ? Why would a character named "The Chef" be granted with 27(!!!!) one-time abilities and another multiple-use ability ?
I don't believe a single instant that he could use his abilities without knowing them. If he tells the truth, he knows right now 4 of his one-time per game and 2 of them are already "SOOO GOOOD". How could the host give so much power in the hands of a single player ?
Nothing of this makes any sense... This claim is obviously fake, which doesn't make CaveJohnson automatically mafia, but still, I think he deserves to be lynched or killed for this. I'll switch back to him if I'm not satisfied with the final lynch candidate for today.
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I'd really like to hear more from kita and syllo in particular on sandroba.
sandroba is on the borderline for me, I've seen him less interested than this by far as scum and way more interested as town.
Apart from that, Bio's done nothing to make me think him town.
goodkarma's posts seem really constructed and to me he feels really detached, despite his long posts. But he does have quite a bit of content. Anyone have any thoughts on him?
Djo, I'll have to re-read your case to see if there's any merit in it, I've been feeling TheChronicler as town for most of the game.
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Yeah, TheChronicler's bad plan still seems more likely it would have come from a townie to me.
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On November 23 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
Yeah, TheChronicler's bad plan still seems more likely it would have come from a townie to me.
@marv
What do you make on his stances on "information" ?
He promotes a plan to produce more information (that was the main goal of his plan)
He doesn't want iamp to publicly state his town read on Dieno
He votes syllo which plan wasn't really "information producing"-like at first glance
This made me think that he didn't really think about his first plan, didn't really believe in it, so I took it as a fake plan.
@TheChronicler: Are you a player named ghost rider ? What is your global experience on playing mafia on forums ?
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On November 23 2012 22:32 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
Yeah, TheChronicler's bad plan still seems more likely it would have come from a townie to me. @marvWhat do you make on his stances on "information" ? He promotes a plan to produce more information (that was the main goal of his plan) He doesn't want iamp to publicly state his town read on Dieno He votes syllo which plan wasn't really "information producing"-like at first glance This made me think that he didn't really think about his first plan, didn't really believe in it, so I took it as a fake plan. @TheChronicler: Are you a player named ghost rider ? What is your global experience on playing mafia on forums ?
I think at the time he was a well meaning but wrong townie. He pushed his idea for quite a while but eventually backed down from it when I framed it to him in a certain way.
I don't really understand what he was trying to achieve as scum. He is a name no-one recognises, and if he knew how things were likely to go down or had a scumteam that did, then the plan is obviously bad, because he was never going to be listened to.
I take your point that it could be "contributing to look townie", but why like that? It was so weird. I mean, maybe it's a massive double bluff and he's a super strong player playing the naive card or whatever, but I don't think so right now. I prefer the option of concerned but misguided townie who hasn't continued to shit up the thread with it for too long.
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On November 23 2012 22:07 sandroba wrote:
I am free to play, I'm posting more than the average person and I've contributed a lot. Mind you that 2 out of the 3 people syllo took with him I was planning on taking. I gave out a town read on syllo very early on.
As to your question, obviously, since I am town. He has been paranoid about my alignment a lot of times in the past (of the top of my head merc mini mafia and that huge 80 player game), but normally he reaches the correct conclusion soon enough.
I have to admit if you are going to bed now, your sleep schedule is INCREDIBLY fubar'd. Good luck with that.
On to game matters, 2 questions:
1. what was your reason for wanting to join this game?
2. given that today is a lynch day, who do you think is scum and why?
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On November 21 2012 13:06 goodkarma wrote:
Who I would nominate (if not myself):
As of right now, my support for a party leader (besides myself) would be sandroba.
Sandroba seems to be adopting a solid strategy at present. I wholeheartedly agree with going with the most townie individuals, even if they are inexperienced. We don't know how the minigames are going to work yet, but we do know with 100% certainty that scum will count against their success. In a game where we don't lynch, all we can do is establish who is actually town. It is absolutely ridiculous to nominate people who have both strong scum and town games and are hard to read day one (thinking of Marv).
I also completely agree with the suggestion that's been brought up that parties be suggested by those who are hoping to be nominated up-front. This is especially important if we are to nominate a townie who isn't as experienced.
Goodkarma for President:
As your leader, I will do my best to further the policy of choosing the most obvious townies as detailed above. Along those lines, I would elect to choose both sandroba and promethelax for my party. The third is still tentative, as the game has only been going for a short time.
Before I actually get going properly on GK's filter there is a question that is still bugging me. GK: why did you want to run for party leader?
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On November 23 2012 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
I'd really like to hear more from kita and syllo in particular on sandroba.
sandroba is on the borderline for me, I've seen him less interested than this by far as scum and way more interested as town.
Apart from that, Bio's done nothing to make me think him town.
goodkarma's posts seem really constructed and to me he feels really detached, despite his long posts. But he does have quite a bit of content. Anyone have any thoughts on him?
Djo, I'll have to re-read your case to see if there's any merit in it, I've been feeling TheChronicler as town for most of the game.
I don't really recall too many of goodkarma's posts thus far..
Ill take a look at his filter over my midnight snack.
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I was going to put some examples here, but I have a better idea that will let me figure out more about the unique capabilities of our squiggly line drawer :D
@Dienosore: I am starting to agree with you on the strangeness of some of GK's posts. However, I want you to explain a bit better what in GK's posts reads as contrived. We can compare notes afterwards. We will then use our combined powers to ascertain whether he is scum or not!
@everybody else: go ahead and do the same, but please let Dieno answer the question first. It was him who first mentioned this stuff.
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On November 23 2012 22:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 22:32 Djodref wrote:On November 23 2012 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
Yeah, TheChronicler's bad plan still seems more likely it would have come from a townie to me. @marvWhat do you make on his stances on "information" ? He promotes a plan to produce more information (that was the main goal of his plan) He doesn't want iamp to publicly state his town read on Dieno He votes syllo which plan wasn't really "information producing"-like at first glance This made me think that he didn't really think about his first plan, didn't really believe in it, so I took it as a fake plan. @TheChronicler: Are you a player named ghost rider ? What is your global experience on playing mafia on forums ? I think at the time he was a well meaning but wrong townie. He pushed his idea for quite a while but eventually backed down from it when I framed it to him in a certain way. I don't really understand what he was trying to achieve as scum. He is a name no-one recognises, and if he knew how things were likely to go down or had a scumteam that did, then the plan is obviously bad, because he was never going to be listened to. I take your point that it could be "contributing to look townie", but why like that? It was so weird. I mean, maybe it's a massive double bluff and he's a super strong player playing the naive card or whatever, but I don't think so right now. I prefer the option of concerned but misguided townie who hasn't continued to shit up the thread with it for too long.
@marv
I'll see how he addresses my case then. As scum, I like to have bad ideas and to push them a lot. I don't really care if people tell me that's bad and that I should stop to shit up the thread with it and so on 
What do you think about his vote on syllo ? I didn't like the lack of explanations for it.
Regarding GK, I found that his thought process was easy to follow and I like how his campaign posts were structured.
His ticket for his party was reasonable and he withdraw his candidature at a good timing. I have a town read on him so far.
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On November 23 2012 22:51 Acrofales wrote:
I was going to put some examples here, but I have a better idea that will let me figure out more about the unique capabilities of our squiggly line drawer :D
@Dienosore: I am starting to agree with you on the strangeness of some of GK's posts. However, I want you to explain a bit better what in GK's posts reads as contrived. We can compare notes afterwards. We will then use our combined powers to ascertain whether he is scum or not!
@everybody else: go ahead and do the same, but please let Dieno answer the question first. It was him who first mentioned this stuff.
Ok, but for what it's worth (something Dino won't know) BC and DrH pegged goodkarma as scum in... Palmar's normal (LVII?) for making a post that looked way too constructed.
I had a look at gk's filter in his town game in newbie XXIV before I made my post earlier, and I didn't feel quite so certainly about it as I thought I would have. XXIV is on the front page if you wanna have a look yourself.
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I agree with what marvel said about thechronicler.
As for goodkarma, I don't like how he tied me with sandroba and used that as an excuse not to consider me
Yet, at this point I would go so far as to say that sandroba has put so much faith into syllo that a vote for either is semi-interchangable. Between the two of them, I see one party leader ticket.
He also seemed to suggest that my post filter was a sea of one-liners and that made it incredibly challenging to read or something
While many here give Sandroba/Syllo respect for being a "vet," it's incredibly hard for me to sort through a sea of one-liners and go, "That guy is definitely town..." Actually, insert Marv's name here too as he's guiltiest of this...
He concluded by claiming he wouldn't vote for me until I provided more information
what I am certain of is that there's not a snowflake's prayer in hell I'm voting for either sandroba or syllo (or should I say sandollo?) until they provide more information on who they're bringing and why
But then decided to end his candidacy, because it was important to consolidate on me or something, although there were pretty much no other viable candidates and almost 8 hours of time left
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On November 23 2012 22:58 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 22:51 Acrofales wrote:
I was going to put some examples here, but I have a better idea that will let me figure out more about the unique capabilities of our squiggly line drawer :D
@Dienosore: I am starting to agree with you on the strangeness of some of GK's posts. However, I want you to explain a bit better what in GK's posts reads as contrived. We can compare notes afterwards. We will then use our combined powers to ascertain whether he is scum or not!
@everybody else: go ahead and do the same, but please let Dieno answer the question first. It was him who first mentioned this stuff.
Ok, but for what it's worth (something Dino won't know) BC and DrH pegged goodkarma as scum in... Palmar's normal (LVII?) for making a post that looked way too constructed. I had a look at gk's filter in his town game in newbie XXIV before I made my post earlier, and I didn't feel quite so certainly about it as I thought I would have. XXIV is on the front page if you wanna have a look yourself.
I already opened both those games for comparison material 
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