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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 21:56 GMT
#1601
lol I thought the deadline was in like 4 minutes. Woops. Anyways, let me know what you guys think, especially marv on SnB.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#1602
i've been meta reading s&b as town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#1603
i wouldn't mind hearing from him why he thinks i'm town, though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#1604
EBWOP: ...I feel that if he's scum, hell be much easier to pin down...

Also, Snb should be bolded on the first mention on him
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 21:59 GMT
#1605
On November 23 2012 06:52 Acrofales wrote:
WTF happened?

Explain your town read on Hapa.

Now I am really really leaving


He was scum last game I played him and he wasn't nearly as engaged. Someone pointed out he's harping on little things (snb I think) and for hapa this actually seems like a townie trait to me.
His reasoned yet emotionally charged attack on syllo's campaign seems sincere to me.
His town read on me when compared to the general consensus also strengthens it.

That's the gist of it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 22 2012 22:01 GMT
#1606
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:

Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?




lol

nice case bro
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 22:01 GMT
#1607
answer why you do, snb
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 22:02 GMT
#1608
Hapa are you willing to switch out GK for someone else you find townie? Will vote for you if you do, as long as your choice doesn't suck.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 22 2012 22:04 GMT
#1609
On November 23 2012 07:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hapa are you willing to switch out GK for someone else you find townie? Will vote for you if you do, as long as your choice doesn't suck.


Well not really, since I strongly believe GK to be town. Who else would you suggest?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 22 2012 22:04 GMT
#1610
On November 23 2012 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
i wouldn't mind hearing from him why he thinks i'm town, though.


aww you're no fun

anyway mostly it's, like, meta-meta

On November 22 2012 08:22 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Hey S&B what's your take on how Marv's acting so far?



oh also I forgot to answer this

I liked his takedown of cave johnson

I also think marv is way more egotistical as scum than he is as town, it's something about the "bwahahaha fools i'll kill you all" mentality. so the fact that he's not running for king of daventry makes me think he's probably town.

Why do you ask about marv specifically? why ask me?


it's not like i think i can read your "posting style" or whatever. it's more like, behavioral psychology I guess?

tbh i can't see "scum marv" not running for party leader on day 1 unless he was teammates with Ace

but i can easily see "town marv" not running for party leader day 1 in a town with syllo or sandro, especially if he had a town read on them

so yeah I could be wrong but I doubt it very much.

(also: toad you never answered me, why'd you ask me about marv spcifically?)
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#1611
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#1612
Phagga.

Is your meta read on GK really that strong? Other then meta you don't seem to have much reasoning.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 22 2012 22:06 GMT
#1613
oh yes, i forgot that you said before. ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 22 2012 22:08 GMT
#1614
On November 23 2012 07:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Phagga.

Is your meta read on GK really that strong? Other then meta you don't seem to have much reasoning.


I'm pretty comfortable with the meta read. I really don't know much about Phagga - can you give me the rundown?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 22:12 GMT
#1615
On November 23 2012 07:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:05 Clarity_nl wrote:
Phagga.

Is your meta read on GK really that strong? Other then meta you don't seem to have much reasoning.


I'm pretty comfortable with the meta read. I really don't know much about Phagga - can you give me the rundown?


His interaction with marv seems genuine. Basically he called marv's post about not wanting to lead as "weird" and when marv questioned him about it... it just all seemed very genuine.

His thoughts/posts are pro-town, a prime example is this:
On November 21 2012 16:54 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 16:35 goodkarma wrote:
On November 21 2012 16:12 phagga wrote:
I like Sandroba's plan, his logic is sound. However, I find it dangerous to derive a town read from it, nothing is stopping scum to put up this plan to get themselfes elected.

Why is everyone asking for town reads? I understand that the mechanics are working differently, but everyone just spreading their townreads like the flu will only make it easier for scum to decide who to shoot at night. People like Keirathi and me who have no desire in being elected D1 should not be giving out any townreads, instead we can actually scum hunt in the traditional way and establish ourselfes as town this way. I even think that most candidates should not be throwing out their town reads unless they seem to be a serious candidate (meaning several people have voiced interest in voting that person).



The reason we're not doing traditional scumhunting is because we don't have the power to lynch scum. Our time is best used determining who is most likely town, as we're (hopefully) voting for townies as party leader.

I've touched on this a few times. Hopefully this is the last time clarification is needed. This game isn't about scumhunting. Rather, it revolves around townhunting.


Ok, looks like I need to clarify myself.

Townhunting is stupid. Do you know why? Because scum can fake it to no end, since they know who is not scum. Talking about who is townie makes it much easier for scum to blend in, which then makes it much harder for town to choose the right people for their teams. Yes, there may be multiple factions in this game. Still, if we force scum to scumhunt they are more likely to trip as if they can just give their townreads out. So, no, I disagree that this game revolves around townhunting. We find out who is townie by scumhunting, not by townhunting.



Other than that it's just gut for me, really.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 22:12 GMT
#1616
His thinking process has just seemed very townie all game so far.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#1617
On November 23 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?


On this game I can tell SnB's filter looks more like the last game we played with and he was town (which I got right, thanks) than in his scum games, and marv wouldn't have been crazy enough to give SnB a scum read here, from either faction.
Not sure I understand your issue, do you not interact with people you are suspicious of?

What do you think of snb? Do you agree that adam looks like new scum trying to blend in?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 22 2012 22:17 GMT
#1618
On November 23 2012 07:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
His thinking process has just seemed very townie all game so far.


I can see where you're coming from, and a lot of his posts are "agreeable". That being said, I don't have the strong feelings about them one way or the other. I don't get an overwhelming sense of genuinity from him. Also, he's never played a scum-game to my knowledge, so I have no baseline to measure this against. I dont' know what he's capable of, and if his play isn't giving me strong feelings one way or the other, I'd rather have GK on the team.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#1619
##Unvote
##Vote Hapahauli
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 22 2012 22:19 GMT
#1620
Maybe for once last minute stuff won't screw me over, let's find out.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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