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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
And I don't agree with it. He uses everything I'm finding marv weird of and saying it makes him town. What is there to like about marv's takedown of cavejohnson?? He was clearly just wasting time and occupying space. Not exactly pro-town. And marv not electing for leader is definitely not "townie" from him. Scum aren't comfortable getting themselves elected. To make it clear though, my read is null on marv. He told me before the game that he wasn't gonna be as active as he usually is, and his play here is but a consequence. I just can't see how it can possibly become a town read to snb, who's played with marv a ton of times. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote: On this game I can tell SnB's filter looks more like the last game we played with and he was town (which I got right, thanks) than in his scum games, and marv wouldn't have been crazy enough to give SnB a scum read here, from either faction. Not sure I understand your issue, do you not interact with people you are suspicious of? What do you think of snb? Do you agree that adam looks like new scum trying to blend in? I'm not sure what to think about S&B. He's mostly been trolling again. His huge town read on marv is pretty silly, imo, which you agree with. Other than that, he hasn't really said much of substance. Mostly null. Adam I'm a little biased towards I think. He came in with a meta-based town read on me, which while not necessarily a strong reason for me being one alignment or the other (since I'm pretty self-aware of my own meta), it seems weird for a scum Adam to pick me of all people to give that kind of town read to. I'm not exactly a stellar player, nor likely to influence much of day 1. Seems like scum Adam, knowing what vets were town, would have been better off backing them rather than me. Slightly green shaded null, I guess. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
His "disinterest" seems pretty null, as his "I'm not comfortable in themed games and I'm hoping to be lazy" is fairly similar to what I was thinking toward the beginning of the game. I'm pretty sympathetic to it. That being said, marv seems waaaaay too comfortable with sheeping syllo at this point, and knowing the control-freak that marv is in mafia games, I'm having trouble connecting the mentality. I'm leaning scum on marv at this point. Regarding SnB: I think he's falling into his less-careful town meta a bit, and his posting style seems more similar to his town games (i.e. Mario Mini) rather than the more careful scumgames (Mafia LVII, DeathNote Mini). I'm leaning town on him, but these things can be faked as well. Definitely not someone I'd be comfortable putting in a party right now though. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=71#1413 | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:25 Keirathi wrote: I'm not sure what to think about S&B. He's mostly been trolling again. His huge town read on marv is pretty silly, imo, which you agree with. Other than that, he hasn't really said much of substance. Mostly null. Adam I'm a little biased towards I think. He came in with a meta-based town read on me, which while not necessarily a strong reason for me being one alignment or the other (since I'm pretty self-aware of my own meta), it seems weird for a scum Adam to pick me of all people to give that kind of town read to. I'm not exactly a stellar player, nor likely to influence much of day 1. Seems like scum Adam, knowing what vets were town, would have been better off backing them rather than me. Slightly green shaded null, I guess. keir do you honestly think i'm "trolling" this game? like, am i being anything comparable to last game? Cause I don't want last game to go down again | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:26 Hapahauli wrote: Regarding Marv: His "disinterest" seems pretty null, as his "I'm not comfortable in themed games and I'm hoping to be lazy" is fairly similar to what I was thinking toward the beginning of the game. I'm pretty sympathetic to it. That being said, marv seems waaaaay too comfortable with sheeping syllo at this point, and knowing the control-freak that marv is in mafia games, I'm having trouble connecting the mentality. I'm leaning scum on marv at this point. Regarding SnB: I think he's falling into his less-careful town meta a bit, and his posting style seems more similar to his town games (i.e. Mario Mini) rather than the more careful scumgames (Mafia LVII, DeathNote Mini). I'm leaning town on him, but these things can be faked as well. Definitely not someone I'd be comfortable putting in a party right now though. check out bureaucracy. I even PMed syllogism after that game to ask his advice on stuff. Me voting for syllogism is entirely unsurprising. your entire point makes no sense because me liking control is definitely not something that i only do as town. I don't see how I'm 'sheeping' him by the way. Unless everyone who is voting for someone who is not themself is 'sheeping'. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:30 strongandbig wrote: keir do you honestly think i'm "trolling" this game? like, am i being anything comparable to last game? Cause I don't want last game to go down again Maybe trolling is the wrong word. Not-caring is more appropriate, but yes. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:31 Keirathi wrote: Maybe trolling is the wrong word. Not-caring is more appropriate, but yes. T_T | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:30 marvellosity wrote: check out bureaucracy. I even PMed syllogism after that game to ask his advice on stuff. Me voting for syllogism is entirely unsurprising. your entire point makes no sense because me liking control is definitely not something that i only do as town. I don't see how I'm 'sheeping' him by the way. Unless everyone who is voting for someone who is not themself is 'sheeping'. Well you are "sheeping" him. You're putting what seems to me like blind faith in him, and this is something I'd associate more with your "lazy" scum-play than your town play. I also have no idea how people (including you) are reading Syllo so strongly as town. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote: Hey I had to come back home to vote and I have to go back out. Real quick, did anything important happened? I made a case on you, see above. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Kitaman27 (5): CaveJohnson, Kitaman27, Promethelax,phagga, strongnbig Goodkarma (1): risknuke Hapahauli (3): Hapahauli, Iamperfection, Clarity_nl, Dienosore (1): Dienosore Syllogism (14): Toadesstern, Acrofales, BioSC, Hopeless1der, djodref, keirathi, goodkarma, Adam4167, Syllogism, Oatsmaster, Marvellosity, TheChronicler, zboson, sandroba Remember that voting is mandatory. All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
hey s&b, cutiepie. turns out playing with me the longest does have its benefits! <33333 | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote: Well you are "sheeping" him. You're putting what seems to me like blind faith in him, and this is something I'd associate more with your "lazy" scum-play than your town play. I also have no idea how people (including you) are reading Syllo so strongly as town. I wouldn't say that I have a super strong town read on syllo, but I feel he is much more likely to be town than any of the other candidates. I can make a case as to why each of them COULD be scum, but I have to grasp at straws more for syllo than anyone else. And I still like the idea of not publicly announcing your party early, no matter how much you disagree with me. If syllo does end up flipping town eventually like I suspect, then the fact that you're gaining so much momentum at this point in the day just reinforces my belief that scum were being "forced" to vote for a candidate that they didn't necessarily want to get elected (because it would give town a better chance of succeeding the event) just because hanging on to a weak vote on sandro or kita or whoever would have looked bad. Then you come in with your big campaign, and they see a chance to knock syllo out of the election. Granted that's all just future speculation, but that's how I see things playing out right now. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On November 23 2012 07:25 Keirathi wrote: I'm not sure what to think about S&B. He's mostly been trolling again. His huge town read on marv is pretty silly, imo, which you agree with. Other than that, he hasn't really said much of substance. Mostly null. Adam I'm a little biased towards I think. He came in with a meta-based town read on me, which while not necessarily a strong reason for me being one alignment or the other (since I'm pretty self-aware of my own meta), it seems weird for a scum Adam to pick me of all people to give that kind of town read to. I'm not exactly a stellar player, nor likely to influence much of day 1. Seems like scum Adam, knowing what vets were town, would have been better off backing them rather than me. Slightly green shaded null, I guess. Oh, so you know him? Is he a new player? Since I've never heard of him I thought he was new, and his play generally seemed like new player trying to blend in. Hmmm. Is he always this lurky? @Clarity Your main issue with him is lack of transparency, and something I agree with. But as I've explained earlier, I'm not liking syllogism too much either. He is being even less transparent with his policy on not releasing his town reads, and I'm not diggin it. Also, I give more weight in my arguments in to gaining information. I feel more confident that sand is easier to pin down than syllo (at least that's the feel I'm getting from the thread. Like I said, I don't know them personally). I'm considering Hapa atm, he has fit the bill on tranparency and I like his town team alot (that dienosore fellow I've changed my mind on, he looks very town to me). Also, from Mario, his scum game takes a toll from when a lot of people are posting, which a) is the case here and b)I can sense a pretty big contrast here from mario in his meta. Are more people wanting to vote for hapa? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I'll be out for most of the night to see family. Hopefully I'll see y'all after the deadline. Peace out. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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