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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#1426
Care to reciprocate?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1434
Dieno, about Djo: you have to realize that English isn't his first language. Sometimes he says things that "sound" wrong just because his use of the language isn't super great.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 18:33 GMT
#1439
Anyways, Turkey Day time. I should be back before the deadline, but I'm not positive. Either way, I'm happy with my vote on syllo, so ta ta.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 18:46 GMT
#1450
Hapa, I already explained why a candidate keeping his party hidden was a good idea.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:03 GMT
#1542
I have a pretty good town read on phagga myself. When he's around the thread, he's been actively promoting discussion, and making reads himself. And a lot of the things he has said mirror my own thoughts. He's one of the players I'm not familiar with, and nearly every time he's posted, I've thought to myself "That makes sense."
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:09 GMT
#1547
On November 23 2012 06:06 marvellosity wrote:
What apologetic bullshit? What are you talking about?

It's certainly possible sandroba could be mafia, but I doubt syllogism is. But why does one of them 'have to be'?

Also I take a somewhat perverse pleasure that people like you and Kei don't know how to read me accurately still. Although it'd be easier if you simply found me town, of course.

If you think you're being "obviously town" this game, then you're being ridiculous. Maybe you are town, I'm not really sure yet because your play isn't how I would expect you to play as scum. But you've been nearly entirely useless this game, which is pretty strange for you.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:13 GMT
#1551
On November 23 2012 06:10 marvellosity wrote:
I never said I was being obviously town.

Depends how you describe utility. Mine being "get my preferred candidate elected". There aren't that many who can claim to have succeeded in that.

You haven't really done anything to push people towards voting syllo though. You just dropped a vote on him early, and then argued with people about other less important things.

Yea, you argued pretty heavily against kita, but he never really had much support. I feel like if you were really trying to "get your preferred candidate" elected, you would have been talking to people voting for sandro and asking them why and trying to convince them that syllo was a better choice.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:18 GMT
#1558
On November 23 2012 06:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:13 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:10 marvellosity wrote:
I never said I was being obviously town.

Depends how you describe utility. Mine being "get my preferred candidate elected". There aren't that many who can claim to have succeeded in that.

You haven't really done anything to push people towards voting syllo though. You just dropped a vote on him early, and then argued with people about other less important things.

Yea, you argued pretty heavily against kita, but he never really had much support. I feel like if you were really trying to "get your preferred candidate" elected, you would have been talking to people voting for sandro and asking them why and trying to convince them that syllo was a better choice.


*looks at votecount*

why?

Yes, the votecount is stacked now. It hasn't been for the full day though. Sandro was winning for the first part of the day, then it was tied for a long time, and syllo just started pulling ahead in the last ~12 hours or so.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:22 GMT
#1563
On November 23 2012 06:18 Acrofales wrote:
But I like him more than the other candidates, particularly Hapa, who is yet another from the gang of people who seem to be doing a great job of calling each other town for no reason I can see (Hapa, GK, Clarity, Keirathi, iamperfection).

Ermm what? I haven't given a town read to a single person in that list :o
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#1568
On November 23 2012 06:23 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:13 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:10 marvellosity wrote:
I never said I was being obviously town.

Depends how you describe utility. Mine being "get my preferred candidate elected". There aren't that many who can claim to have succeeded in that.

You haven't really done anything to push people towards voting syllo though. You just dropped a vote on him early, and then argued with people about other less important things.

Yea, you argued pretty heavily against kita, but he never really had much support. I feel like if you were really trying to "get your preferred candidate" elected, you would have been talking to people voting for sandro and asking them why and trying to convince them that syllo was a better choice.

Why do you think that? Why do you feel it was necessary? Syllo was managing that quite well by himself. I agree that Marv had little part to play in the wagon on Syllo, but accusing him of NOT doing things that were patently unnecessary is just weird.

I think that because marv said his utility this game was "getting his preferred candidate elected." His words, not mine. He seems to think that he is the reason syllo is likely to be selected as party member, when I don't think that that's the case at all.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:29 GMT
#1571
To win the event, and come out of it with solid reads.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#1577
Also for another reference of why this doesn't feel like town marv:

I called him useless. I would expect town marv to come up with some witty retort or maybe get "angry" (something along the lines of "I'm not the one being useless, babe. You are."). Not to explain why he has, in fact, not been useless.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 21:39 GMT
#1581
On November 23 2012 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 06:36 Keirathi wrote:
Also for another reference of why this doesn't feel like town marv:

I called him useless. I would expect town marv to come up with some witty retort or maybe get "angry" (something along the lines of "I'm not the one being useless, babe. You are."). Not to explain why he has, in fact, not been useless.


Christ that's awful. You do me a disservice.

Sorry I'm not well versed in insult-ology.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#1611
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:25 GMT
#1623
On November 23 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?


On this game I can tell SnB's filter looks more like the last game we played with and he was town (which I got right, thanks) than in his scum games, and marv wouldn't have been crazy enough to give SnB a scum read here, from either faction.
Not sure I understand your issue, do you not interact with people you are suspicious of?

What do you think of snb? Do you agree that adam looks like new scum trying to blend in?

I'm not sure what to think about S&B. He's mostly been trolling again. His huge town read on marv is pretty silly, imo, which you agree with. Other than that, he hasn't really said much of substance. Mostly null.

Adam I'm a little biased towards I think. He came in with a meta-based town read on me, which while not necessarily a strong reason for me being one alignment or the other (since I'm pretty self-aware of my own meta), it seems weird for a scum Adam to pick me of all people to give that kind of town read to. I'm not exactly a stellar player, nor likely to influence much of day 1. Seems like scum Adam, knowing what vets were town, would have been better off backing them rather than me. Slightly green shaded null, I guess.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:31 GMT
#1628
On November 23 2012 07:30 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:25 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?


On this game I can tell SnB's filter looks more like the last game we played with and he was town (which I got right, thanks) than in his scum games, and marv wouldn't have been crazy enough to give SnB a scum read here, from either faction.
Not sure I understand your issue, do you not interact with people you are suspicious of?

What do you think of snb? Do you agree that adam looks like new scum trying to blend in?

I'm not sure what to think about S&B. He's mostly been trolling again. His huge town read on marv is pretty silly, imo, which you agree with. Other than that, he hasn't really said much of substance. Mostly null.

Adam I'm a little biased towards I think. He came in with a meta-based town read on me, which while not necessarily a strong reason for me being one alignment or the other (since I'm pretty self-aware of my own meta), it seems weird for a scum Adam to pick me of all people to give that kind of town read to. I'm not exactly a stellar player, nor likely to influence much of day 1. Seems like scum Adam, knowing what vets were town, would have been better off backing them rather than me. Slightly green shaded null, I guess.


keir do you honestly think i'm "trolling" this game?

like, am i being anything comparable to last game? Cause I don't want last game to go down again

Maybe trolling is the wrong word. Not-caring is more appropriate, but yes.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:38 GMT
#1636
On November 23 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:30 marvellosity wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:26 Hapahauli wrote:
Regarding Marv:

His "disinterest" seems pretty null, as his "I'm not comfortable in themed games and I'm hoping to be lazy" is fairly similar to what I was thinking toward the beginning of the game. I'm pretty sympathetic to it.

That being said, marv seems waaaaay too comfortable with sheeping syllo at this point, and knowing the control-freak that marv is in mafia games, I'm having trouble connecting the mentality. I'm leaning scum on marv at this point.

Regarding SnB:

I think he's falling into his less-careful town meta a bit, and his posting style seems more similar to his town games (i.e. Mario Mini) rather than the more careful scumgames (Mafia LVII, DeathNote Mini). I'm leaning town on him, but these things can be faked as well. Definitely not someone I'd be comfortable putting in a party right now though.


check out bureaucracy. I even PMed syllogism after that game to ask his advice on stuff. Me voting for syllogism is entirely unsurprising. your entire point makes no sense because me liking control is definitely not something that i only do as town.

I don't see how I'm 'sheeping' him by the way. Unless everyone who is voting for someone who is not themself is 'sheeping'.


Well you are "sheeping" him. You're putting what seems to me like blind faith in him, and this is something I'd associate more with your "lazy" scum-play than your town play. I also have no idea how people (including you) are reading Syllo so strongly as town.

I wouldn't say that I have a super strong town read on syllo, but I feel he is much more likely to be town than any of the other candidates. I can make a case as to why each of them COULD be scum, but I have to grasp at straws more for syllo than anyone else.

And I still like the idea of not publicly announcing your party early, no matter how much you disagree with me. If syllo does end up flipping town eventually like I suspect, then the fact that you're gaining so much momentum at this point in the day just reinforces my belief that scum were being "forced" to vote for a candidate that they didn't necessarily want to get elected (because it would give town a better chance of succeeding the event) just because hanging on to a weak vote on sandro or kita or whoever would have looked bad. Then you come in with your big campaign, and they see a chance to knock syllo out of the election.

Granted that's all just future speculation, but that's how I see things playing out right now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:40 GMT
#1637
EBWOP: Hmm, I guess your campaign isn't gaining as much traction as I thought. I thought more people switched off of syllo, but it's still pretty 1 sided.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:45 GMT
#1641
On November 23 2012 07:42 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 07:25 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 23 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
On November 23 2012 06:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
Strong town read on marv? Really? If marv hadn't told be beforehand he wasn't gonna take this game seriously, I would have gone with scum read on marv. He spends a ton of time arguing with cave fellow for no reason at all, the guy is and has been a lost cause since he began posting. He's not nearly as active and as involved as his other games. He's not willing to run for party. I've reread his filter and there is nooooo way you can get a town read on marv that fast, with that kind of bad reasoning. Someone else had a town fast, with zero reasoning. Especially SNB, who's played with him a ton of times.

SnB's filter though seems pretty much like his town filter from last game, in terms of low activity and post coutn, but I haven't played with him much. Marv, do you have any meta read on him?

S&B quoted this with a silly response, but it really doesn't make a lot of sense. You spent a lot of words to say you don't have a town read on marv, then in the same breath ask marv for his meta read of S&B. If marv is, in fact, not town while S&B is, don't you think he would theoretically try to strengthen your scum read on S&B via answering your question?


On this game I can tell SnB's filter looks more like the last game we played with and he was town (which I got right, thanks) than in his scum games, and marv wouldn't have been crazy enough to give SnB a scum read here, from either faction.
Not sure I understand your issue, do you not interact with people you are suspicious of?

What do you think of snb? Do you agree that adam looks like new scum trying to blend in?

I'm not sure what to think about S&B. He's mostly been trolling again. His huge town read on marv is pretty silly, imo, which you agree with. Other than that, he hasn't really said much of substance. Mostly null.

Adam I'm a little biased towards I think. He came in with a meta-based town read on me, which while not necessarily a strong reason for me being one alignment or the other (since I'm pretty self-aware of my own meta), it seems weird for a scum Adam to pick me of all people to give that kind of town read to. I'm not exactly a stellar player, nor likely to influence much of day 1. Seems like scum Adam, knowing what vets were town, would have been better off backing them rather than me. Slightly green shaded null, I guess.


Oh, so you know him? Is he a new player?
Since I've never heard of him I thought he was new, and his play generally seemed like new player trying to blend in. Hmmm. Is he always this lurky?


He's definitely not new. He's been around for a long time I believe. I played with him in Whose Line and he seemed to have some history from way back with BlazingHand, because they kept a running commentary against each other for some wrongs each one did to the other at some point in the past.

And yes, he was pretty lurky in that game too.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 22 2012 22:53 GMT
#1645
On November 23 2012 07:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote: Syllogism
##Vote: Hopeless1der


Things and such.

I, uh, what?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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