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On November 24 2012 04:09 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 00:47 Djodref wrote:On November 24 2012 00:16 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 23:43 Djodref wrote:
I might have sounded angry but I honestly think that this sandroba wagon is pretty stupid. Nobody really brings an original argument and is sheeping syllo ">50% chance that sandro is mafia" and/or basically lynching a lurker with contributions.
It's the perfect situation for the mafia to mislynch sandro if he is town, not contribute, blend in. I don't like how this D2 starts at all.
For example, risk.nuke dropping in the thread and casting his vote against sandro with his "waiting for sandro to participate to switch my vote to ..." without even giving any alternatives. Fuck this kind of attitude !
FoS risk.nuke "without giving any alternatives"... Do you understand that bringing up alternatives would completely contradict the very reason I parked my vote on sandroba. The point was to build pressure to force him into activity. Saying, I'm parking my vote on sandroba but if he doesn't show up I'm going to vote this guy is just... dumb doesn't even suffice. @risk.nukeWell, obviously it didn't work because sandro is supposedly sleeping now. What do you plan to do now ? Play the waiting game. @risk.nukePlay the waiting game ? Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
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I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba @risk.nukeObviously, you know sandroba a little. Could you explain me why you feel like playing the waiting game with sandro is a good idea for today ? He explicitly told us that he was going to get busy this week-end  Why couldn't you share a little more about what you think of sandroba so far while we're waiting ? Of course, I would also greatly appreciate any input on TheChronicler ^^
Because I want to hear what he have to say before I decide if I want to lynch him or not.
Right now I don't feel sandroba is demonstrating qualitys I would expect from a town sandroba.
This might be because he is genuinely busy or just bloody arrogant or scum. Either was right now I want to hear from him, there is time.
Chronicler
I didn't like his initial plan in the terms of that I didn't agree with it. On the other hand "IF" he is town I don't feel the plan was beneficial for the mafiateam either so from that perspective I can see what he was going for. A lot of people make up their own plans because they like the sense of leadership. I don't think his candidacy plan is alignment revealing.
I especially liked this post (clicky) from him, even more so in hindsight of syllos sucess.
I am slightly leaning town on him.
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On November 24 2012 05:10 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:07 marvellosity wrote:On November 24 2012 05:00 syllogism wrote:
I'm usually vary of interpreting contradictions as an indication of someone being mafia as that depends a lot on the person question, but that one seems pretty bad. He hasn't really done anything other than propose his bad plan. A lot of posts and no useful content at all. so you now think he could be scum, having agreed with me earlier he was more likely town? I agree that the plan he proposed seemed towny and some of his reactions feel genuine, but his content and that contradiction point the other way. I don't think he is the best lynch today, however.
Syllo, what do you feel about adam?
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On November 24 2012 05:13 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:01 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 04:09 Djodref wrote:On November 24 2012 02:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 00:47 Djodref wrote:On November 24 2012 00:16 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 23:43 Djodref wrote:
I might have sounded angry but I honestly think that this sandroba wagon is pretty stupid. Nobody really brings an original argument and is sheeping syllo ">50% chance that sandro is mafia" and/or basically lynching a lurker with contributions.
It's the perfect situation for the mafia to mislynch sandro if he is town, not contribute, blend in. I don't like how this D2 starts at all.
For example, risk.nuke dropping in the thread and casting his vote against sandro with his "waiting for sandro to participate to switch my vote to ..." without even giving any alternatives. Fuck this kind of attitude !
FoS risk.nuke "without giving any alternatives"... Do you understand that bringing up alternatives would completely contradict the very reason I parked my vote on sandroba. The point was to build pressure to force him into activity. Saying, I'm parking my vote on sandroba but if he doesn't show up I'm going to vote this guy is just... dumb doesn't even suffice. @risk.nukeWell, obviously it didn't work because sandro is supposedly sleeping now. What do you plan to do now ? Play the waiting game. @risk.nukePlay the waiting game ? On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
*snip*
I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba @risk.nukeObviously, you know sandroba a little. Could you explain me why you feel like playing the waiting game with sandro is a good idea for today ? He explicitly told us that he was going to get busy this week-end Why couldn't you share a little more about what you think of sandroba so far while we're waiting ? Of course, I would also greatly appreciate any input on TheChronicler ^^ Because I want to hear what he have to say before I decide if I want to lynch him or not. Right now I don't feel sandroba is demonstrating qualitys I would expect from a town sandroba. This might be because he is genuinely busy or just bloody arrogant or scum. Either was right now I want to hear from him, there is time. Chronicler I didn't like his initial plan in the terms of that I didn't agree with it. On the other hand "IF" he is town I don't feel the plan was beneficial for the mafiateam either so from that perspective I can see what he was going for. A lot of people make up their own plans because they like the sense of leadership. I don't think his candidacy plan is alignment revealing. I especially liked this post (clicky) from him, even more so in hindsight of syllos sucess. I am slightly leaning town on him. @risk.nukeThat's analysis after the fact. At this time, there was no reliable way for us to know if syllo was town or not. Speaking for myself, I've been deciding this after a careful analysis of his posts and I've decided that I should take the risk of voting him. I'm talking about a risk here because he didn't want to reveal his party beforehand, which is something I liked. And that's something TheChronicler shouldn't have liked, given his campaign platform. TheChronicler looked very afraid to vote a scum as a party leader and his plan was all about getting "information". Hence, his vote on syllo doesn't make any sense from a town TheChronicler perspective. In fact, the whole story of a town TheChronicler which wanted to be elected on a bad idea doesn't make sense. Hence, scum. Further thoughts ? By the way, your vote on sandroba is useless...
We may not know for sure syllos alignment but as long as occams razor says syllo is town then that speaks in chronicles favor.
If my vote on sandroba is useless, is that why you're so attracted to it? Birds of a feather flock.
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On November 24 2012 05:20 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:12 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 05:10 syllogism wrote:On November 24 2012 05:07 marvellosity wrote:On November 24 2012 05:00 syllogism wrote:
I'm usually vary of interpreting contradictions as an indication of someone being mafia as that depends a lot on the person question, but that one seems pretty bad. He hasn't really done anything other than propose his bad plan. A lot of posts and no useful content at all. so you now think he could be scum, having agreed with me earlier he was more likely town? I agree that the plan he proposed seemed towny and some of his reactions feel genuine, but his content and that contradiction point the other way. I don't think he is the best lynch today, however. Syllo, what do you feel about adam? He has been useless. Nothing really stands out besides maybe him complaining about kita is trying to "ward of people from voting sandroba". At the time adam hadn't mentioned sandro before and presumably wasn't supporting him for party leader. That's a bit thin though and he shouldn't be a priority right now.
Yes he has been useless, so have other players but there is more then that. He feels completely inactive. Even when he posts his posts never feel like they are going anywhere and he doesn't follow them up.
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On November 24 2012 14:18 kitaman27 wrote:There are a couple people whose filters I've looked through that I believe warrent mention. The first would be nuke. Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Hi, I'd proposed myself to lead the party since I feel I possess the essential quality's we'd want for a mission leader. But I feel I'm late to sign myself up and as it stands there already is already a candidate I want to support. As it stands right now I want Sandroba for our first party leader.
No disrespect to marv who's one of the best scumhunters I know on these forums but a scumhunter isn't what we need today.
I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba The thing that bothers me the most about this post is how much resolve nuke has that sandroba is the right man for the job. He doesn't question whether or not sandroba is actually town, which is the first thing I'd be looking for. "Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination." This quote is what I found the most off. When I think of sandroba, I think of a good late game scumhunter. What makes him think that sandroba is a great town hunter, compared to anyone else? It's as if he is coming up with a reason that is perfect for the job to justify his vote. Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote:
No I read your arguments, but they sounded inadequate and non thought through. What really rubbed me the wrong way was your disregard for individual alignment amongst your list. Right now I feel you didn't care, you just wanted an elite team to go under the pretext that they would be best equipped. You purposefully ignored or didn't consider the risks of a team like that and I really don't like that. At a later point, nuke attacks arco for his team selection based on experience instead of alignment. This appears to be exactly what he had based his own leader selection upon. Throughout nuke's filter, he is asking tons of questions, but not providing any opinions of his own. This is something I find myself doing quite often as scum. Towards the end of the day, after sandroba goes afk, he switches his support to goodkarma. Rather than convincing others that this is the best route, he is more concerned with his own personal selection. He lists two people as town reads, but provides no real reasoning and shows little effort to attempt to get them added to the party. Today he has voted sandroba on the basis of inactivity. He has not contributed much on day two and hasn't provided any alternate scum reads. He is also not very aggressive, which is something I'm used to seeing when he is town. I have one other person I'd like to bring up, but it will probably have to wait until morning. I'll choose my prefered lynch candidate after that.
Scummy post from a scummy player.
I don't question that Sandroba is town or not? You're not the first person to bring it up so perhaps I've phrased it poorly but I did absolutely believe Sandroba was town at the time. As I said his activity was promising and from what I had seen at that time he looked townier by far then anyone else. The next person who disagrees with that better be able to tell me why Sandroba was scummy at that time.
You other point is bullshit. I had a townread on sandroba. Acrofales didn't have townreads on his three candidates. He just wanted to send them because they were good players and for that reason.
If you want opinions from me you're free to ask me for them and I may or may not give you an answer, but if you don't I'll be damned if I'll accept that you show up later accusing me of not sharing opinions when all game you've not given a fuck about them.
I started disliking Sandroba when Sandroba stopped acting like a townie. If you think that's suspicious you need to learn how to play this game. Furthermore the reason I'm voting sandroba is not inactivity and if you don't think he's scummy I want to hear concrete reasons why from you.
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On November 24 2012 20:56 sandroba wrote:
@acro No. The way he keeps trying to discredit people that are in the "confirmed town" status and pushing doubt when there is absolutely no reason to. The biggest fear for scum in a game is that town organizes behind confirmed strong players. His spreading of mistrust only benefits him as mafia, especially at this point when there is no reason to consider it as an option. You can check that a lot of his posts have this as the sole purpose.
@risk If not for inactivity, then why are you voting for me?
@everyone Just think for a second. Look at the team I picked. If I were scum and planning to fail the mission I would be basically commiting suicide.
Don't try to hide and make it sound as if the reason you're scummy is inactivity. This is not your town playstyle. After you asserted yourself as leader you completely lost interest, don't give me any I was busy crap because I can tell a disinterested player from an afk one. Even now as you're the primary lynch target you haven't bothered to make a case against anyone else.
My parents was coming by today and I had to put away the laptop when they rang the doorbell. They already think I spend to much time playing mafia so sitting by the laptop as we had lunch wasn't an option. Then I spent the day with them.
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On November 25 2012 01:11 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 20:43 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 14:18 kitaman27 wrote:There are a couple people whose filters I've looked through that I believe warrent mention. The first would be nuke. On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Hi, I'd proposed myself to lead the party since I feel I possess the essential quality's we'd want for a mission leader. But I feel I'm late to sign myself up and as it stands there already is already a candidate I want to support. As it stands right now I want Sandroba for our first party leader.
No disrespect to marv who's one of the best scumhunters I know on these forums but a scumhunter isn't what we need today.
I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba The thing that bothers me the most about this post is how much resolve nuke has that sandroba is the right man for the job. He doesn't question whether or not sandroba is actually town, which is the first thing I'd be looking for. "Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination." This quote is what I found the most off. When I think of sandroba, I think of a good late game scumhunter. What makes him think that sandroba is a great town hunter, compared to anyone else? It's as if he is coming up with a reason that is perfect for the job to justify his vote. On November 21 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote:
No I read your arguments, but they sounded inadequate and non thought through. What really rubbed me the wrong way was your disregard for individual alignment amongst your list. Right now I feel you didn't care, you just wanted an elite team to go under the pretext that they would be best equipped. You purposefully ignored or didn't consider the risks of a team like that and I really don't like that. At a later point, nuke attacks arco for his team selection based on experience instead of alignment. This appears to be exactly what he had based his own leader selection upon. Throughout nuke's filter, he is asking tons of questions, but not providing any opinions of his own. This is something I find myself doing quite often as scum. Towards the end of the day, after sandroba goes afk, he switches his support to goodkarma. Rather than convincing others that this is the best route, he is more concerned with his own personal selection. He lists two people as town reads, but provides no real reasoning and shows little effort to attempt to get them added to the party. Today he has voted sandroba on the basis of inactivity. He has not contributed much on day two and hasn't provided any alternate scum reads. He is also not very aggressive, which is something I'm used to seeing when he is town. I have one other person I'd like to bring up, but it will probably have to wait until morning. I'll choose my prefered lynch candidate after that. Scummy post from a scummy player. Oh really? So now I'm scummy? Funny because before I brought you up, you've never mentioned me. Strange considering I was one of the three main candidates yesterday, yet you completely ignored me. Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 20:43 risk.nuke wrote:
If you want opinions from me you're free to ask me for them and I may or may not give you an answer, but if you don't I'll be damned if I'll accept that you show up later accusing me of not sharing opinions when all game you've not given a fuck about them. No need to get worked up. I know I mentioned how I'm used to seeing you aggressive, but it doesn't really count if it comes after I mention it. Why should I have to ask for your opinions? Why not give them yourself and then push your thoughts on people once you do post them? I started disliking Sandroba when Sandroba stopped acting like a townie. If you think that's suspicious you need to learn how to play this game. Furthermore the reason I'm voting sandroba is not inactivity and if you don't think he's scummy I want to hear concrete reasons why from you.
Main candidate... your campaign was a joke.
Also, nice selective quoting and responses. Cutting out my defence of your bullshit.
here is the uncut post.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 24 2012 20:43 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 14:18 kitaman27 wrote:There are a couple people whose filters I've looked through that I believe warrent mention. The first would be nuke. On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Hi, I'd proposed myself to lead the party since I feel I possess the essential quality's we'd want for a mission leader. But I feel I'm late to sign myself up and as it stands there already is already a candidate I want to support. As it stands right now I want Sandroba for our first party leader.
No disrespect to marv who's one of the best scumhunters I know on these forums but a scumhunter isn't what we need today.
I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba The thing that bothers me the most about this post is how much resolve nuke has that sandroba is the right man for the job. He doesn't question whether or not sandroba is actually town, which is the first thing I'd be looking for. "Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination." This quote is what I found the most off. When I think of sandroba, I think of a good late game scumhunter. What makes him think that sandroba is a great town hunter, compared to anyone else? It's as if he is coming up with a reason that is perfect for the job to justify his vote. On November 21 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote:
No I read your arguments, but they sounded inadequate and non thought through. What really rubbed me the wrong way was your disregard for individual alignment amongst your list. Right now I feel you didn't care, you just wanted an elite team to go under the pretext that they would be best equipped. You purposefully ignored or didn't consider the risks of a team like that and I really don't like that. At a later point, nuke attacks arco for his team selection based on experience instead of alignment. This appears to be exactly what he had based his own leader selection upon. Throughout nuke's filter, he is asking tons of questions, but not providing any opinions of his own. This is something I find myself doing quite often as scum. Towards the end of the day, after sandroba goes afk, he switches his support to goodkarma. Rather than convincing others that this is the best route, he is more concerned with his own personal selection. He lists two people as town reads, but provides no real reasoning and shows little effort to attempt to get them added to the party. Today he has voted sandroba on the basis of inactivity. He has not contributed much on day two and hasn't provided any alternate scum reads. He is also not very aggressive, which is something I'm used to seeing when he is town. I have one other person I'd like to bring up, but it will probably have to wait until morning. I'll choose my prefered lynch candidate after that. Scummy post from a scummy player. I don't question that Sandroba is town or not? You're not the first person to bring it up so perhaps I've phrased it poorly but I did absolutely believe Sandroba was town at the time. As I said his activity was promising and from what I had seen at that time he looked townier by far then anyone else. The next person who disagrees with that better be able to tell me why Sandroba was scummy at that time. You other point is bullshit. I had a townread on sandroba. Acrofales didn't have townreads on his three candidates. He just wanted to send them because they were good players and for that reason. If you want opinions from me you're free to ask me for them and I may or may not give you an answer, but if you don't I'll be damned if I'll accept that you show up later accusing me of not sharing opinions when all game you've not given a fuck about them. I started disliking Sandroba when Sandroba stopped acting like a townie. If you think that's suspicious you need to learn how to play this game. Furthermore the reason I'm voting sandroba is not inactivity and if you don't think he's scummy I want to hear concrete reasons why from you.
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Nice, sandrobas redflip should be very informative.
Also, I was roleblocked.
##vote syllogism
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On November 25 2012 10:07 Hopeless1der wrote:wtf just happened. Does anyone have any idea?
maybe a minigame or a riddle.
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On November 25 2012 10:16 Djodref wrote:
I took 30 damage !
I propose myself as a party leader for today !
My team would consist of Acro, Clarity and Dieno !
I'm quite confident to pull off a success for the event with such a team ^^
Why not syllo? The way I understood it he can't be elected but he can still be a groupmember.
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On November 25 2012 10:19 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 10:12 GreYMisT wrote:
Everyone I am very sorry for this, It should have been included in the daypost but I rushed it. Luckily I caught it only an hour in and this shall be editied in.
In addition to the party only being able to contain half of the same players as the previous party, the same party leader may not be elected twice in a row.
This means syllogism is ineligible to be elected as leader. This was supposed to be explained via flavor but you know...
Again very sorry that this information was not presented to you guys immediately. That makes things harder... So, it should be a no-brainer to shoo in one of the people from the previous successful party. I would rather not have dienosaur as party leader. Between Oats and Keir, I flipped a coin and it came up... ##Vote: KeirathiBut in all seriousness, Oats and Keir do not have Syllo-esque reads, and I believe it would be best if they have some guidance for who else they bring. Even if it's just Syllo telling one of them exactly what to do (In fact, I'd approve of this idea.).
What kind of selection process is that...
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It's late, I stayed up for the flip, I'm going to clock out now. See you tomorrow.
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BEWARE
The countdown might also be for something one or all of us did in the thread. Like chances, if we do something ten times something bad/good will happen (most likely bad).
I think your party's are bad and as such I'll be running for partyleader. Preliminarily my team will consist of syllogism, oats and chronicler.
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On November 25 2012 22:44 syllogism wrote:
Risk what do you think about Prom
I'll look him over now.
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On November 25 2012 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Risk, I am not taking your party seriously.
Why in the flipping world would you not take Dien with you? WHY?
Because he appears to be getting the shit kicked out of him by this magus guy that's why.
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On November 25 2012 22:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Party success is determined before night actions. So there is no way he can die before the party success is determined
Yes but nothing says that HP isn't a factor.
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On November 25 2012 22:49 risk.nuke wrote:I'll look him over now.
His filter is pretty long and confusing, it's hard to determine what is fluff and not.
First couple of posts, he post-talk a lot (nothing of value).
I recall someone saying him wanting to limit the candidates to 3-5 was scummy.
I don't really agree, I think limiting candidates is the right way to go.
He nominated Acro for candidate as competion for sandroba and then moved on to kita. (I think his townread is acro looks very easy to fake) Also I think this was after sandroba had lost his momentum.
Regarding his claim. (If I understand correctly "everyone who targets his target is roleblocked") He immediately assumes Sandroba targeted Syllogism disregarding other reasons for why Sandroba could had been roleblocked. Seems fishy because Sandroba seemed like a very reasonable target for town roleblockers.
I'm not really of a mind to say if it's a mafia abillity of a town abillity, I've never seen any abillity simmilar to his his before and I haven't figured out enough of the setup to analyse with deduction.
I'm not sure what I think of him, his behavior is suspicious but he have several huge posts where he seems to be involved.
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On November 25 2012 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nothing says that HP is a factor.
Yeah but why gamble. I think it makes sense if hp is a factor. Additionally in games like this there are likely dangers to rolenameclaiming. I really don't see the benefit of putting a near dead nameouted person on the team over syllogism.
On November 25 2012 23:28 syllogism wrote:
Risk if you had to pick fourth person onto your team, who would that be? Are you going to tell me what you thought about prom?
Assuming I couldn't take Keir. Clarity maybe.
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On November 25 2012 23:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 23:34 risk.nuke wrote:On November 25 2012 22:49 risk.nuke wrote:On November 25 2012 22:44 syllogism wrote:
Risk what do you think about Prom I'll look him over now. Regarding his claim. (If I understand correctly "everyone who targets his target is roleblocked") He immediately assumes Sandroba targeted Syllogism disregarding other reasons for why Sandroba could had been roleblocked. Seems fishy because Sandroba seemed like a very reasonable target for town roleblockers. So was Prome also 'guessing' that I had targeted syllogism then?
I don't know if he lied about his ability, I'm suspicious of his resulting behaviour.
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On November 25 2012 23:56 Djodref wrote:
Toad is 99% scum
For toad to be town, it would take - Acro's case against him to be mislead
- TheChronicler lying or Toad framed/bussed during the first cycle
- Acro's lying or Toad framed/bussed during the second cycle
- Town Toad to hide the fact that he needs votes cast on him every cycle
- Town Toad to act like a mafia player
On a side note, I think that Hopeless is likely to be his scum partner and that Toad really need to have vote cast on him at each cycle. The robot claim was the fakeclaim associated to his role, I would say. Okay, I guess that everybody would agree on this one already, so that wasn't my main point.
How do we handle him ?
I think the safest way would be to roleblock him until we can kill him during the day. I think that night actions directed towards him are likely to be redirected via busses by the mafia team or 3rd party players. Does anybody has an idea about how we could safely get rid of him instead of using a lynch ?
Toad is definitely scum. Two players claiming copchecks. And sandroba had the framebus and he was roleblocked (unless he lied). As to your question, there is no failsafe way to kill him except dayvigs/lynch.
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