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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 03:33 GMT
#5901
On December 03 2012 12:06 kitaman27 wrote:
VE, please explain your reason for last night's action...


Kita: please tell us VE's actions.

Hapa, Kei, I'll bow to you both on this one as having a better understanding of VE than I; however I still find him scummy and I'l unvote him if/when he provides something.

Austin: I don't really like how you popped in to defend VE and vanished again. Nothing to add?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 03:38 GMT
#5902
On December 03 2012 12:33 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:06 kitaman27 wrote:
VE, please explain your reason for last night's action...


Kita: please tell us VE's actions.

Hapa, Kei, I'll bow to you both on this one as having a better understanding of VE than I; however I still find him scummy and I'l unvote him if/when he provides something.

Austin: I don't really like how you popped in to defend VE and vanished again. Nothing to add?


I've never played a game with VE (other than Liquid City, in which we never talked to each other), but from what I've /obs'd in his games, his typical scum-games are really wild. Mad Men mafia is a pretty good example.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 03:44 GMT
#5903
Yeah but so are his town games. This feels like such a departure from his usual meta that it is an attempt to hide something. Though him flipping scum in Paranoia does make me re think some things. I am not keeping up with that game at all.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 03 2012 03:46 GMT
#5904
Yea I'm not super familiar with VE either. I just know that he flipped scum in Paranoia, and town in LC. And he played extremely differently in all 3 of them.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 03 2012 04:00 GMT
#5905
Please do not discuss ongoing games
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 06:09 GMT
#5906
Hey guys S&B attempted to visit Djodref
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 06:10 GMT
#5907
Also I was healed
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 03 2012 06:18 GMT
#5908
I've played a few games with VE now and spectated a dozen more. Hes a complete mixed bag and almost never plays the same way twice. One thing I know is that he is a very competent scum hunter, when he wants to be. Which brings me to a few issues I have in his filter:

His initial 'case' on Hapa looks pretty half-hearted and about a third of it is not even about Hapa, nor does it establish mafia motives/intent.
His case on GK seemed mostly like a regurgitation of things already previously said.

I wouldn't be adverse to hanging him today, but I'd like to hear more from him before I cast that vote.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 03 2012 06:22 GMT
#5909
S&B promised to attempt a rolecheck on Phagga and instead visited the guy who just flipped?

Yeah, kill it with fire.

##Vote strongandbig
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 03 2012 06:23 GMT
#5910
On December 03 2012 15:09 syllogism wrote:
Hey guys S&B attempted to visit Djodref


Orly?

On December 03 2012 07:53 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 07:53 kitaman27 wrote:
strongandbig...are you willing to use your role tonight on phagga to confirm he is not golem?


yeah okay


So we hang S&B today?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 06:34 GMT
#5911
And yes, one (or more) of the main characters is almost certainly mafia unless you think the game can be won on day 1 with a mass claim. Hapa should claim all his abilities and actions tomorrow.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 06:44 GMT
#5912
On December 03 2012 15:34 syllogism wrote:
And yes, one (or more) of the main characters is almost certainly mafia unless you think the game can be won on day 1 with a mass claim. Hapa should claim all his abilities and actions tomorrow.


I don't see what good it does, but it doesn't do much harm either I suppose:

1) Flame Resistant Coating - I prevent all fire damage to a target for two cycles (the cycle used and then the next one)
2) Flamethrower - I do 100 damage to my target, followed by 75 damage to his/her target, and 50 damage to the target's target.

Night 1 - Used Flame Resistant Coating on myself
Night 2 - Used Fame Resistant Coating on Marvellosity
Night 3 - Flamethrower on Toadsstern
Night 4 - Flamethrower on Toadsstern
Night 5 - Flame Resistant Coating on nl_clarity, but roleblocked
Night 6 - Flame Resistant Coating on nl_clarity, but roleblocked

Notable on Night 3, is that the only person who claimed to take exactly 75 damage was Hopeless. Toad could have very well targeted someone else (perhaps someone who took a bundle of damage).
Night 4, a bunch of people took 75, so no help there.

Night 5 is relevant in particular, because Syllo, you mentioned that you have some sort of RB+Tracker role. However, I did attempt to protect clarity, so I'm not sure what happened there. Perhaps I was roleblocked by another player, but that's what I attempted every night.

On December 03 2012 15:09 syllogism wrote:
Hey guys S&B attempted to visit Djodref


This is pretty lynchable.

##Vote StrongandBig
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 06:46 GMT
#5913
Regarding N5 - Syllo claimed that I didn't visit anyone on Night 5. I attempted to protect nl_clarity on N5, so I'm not sure what happened there.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 06:52 GMT
#5914
Flamethrower is incredibly anti-town even with the potential to track actions. Also you know toad flipped a role that had a night action to inflict 100 damage, so shouldn't you have been looking for players who took 175 damage and not 75?!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 06:55 GMT
#5915
On December 03 2012 15:52 syllogism wrote:
Flamethrower is incredibly anti-town even with the potential to track actions. Also you know toad flipped a role that had a night action to inflict 100 damage, so shouldn't you have been looking for players who took 175 damage and not 75?!


Well yes that does make more sense lol. For some reason I didn't account for Toad's ability in my notes. Go figure.

But yeah Flamethrower is pretty neutered damage ability. That's why I've been pretty hesitant about using it.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 07:24 GMT
#5916
welp my power 100% got re directed this cycle. I had my seed on clarity again but it was not activated and therefore no one was roleblocked by me. Interesting.

Everyone who was role blocked claim your targets. Something fishy is going on.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 07:50 GMT
#5917
Hapa I can symphatize if you really took 50 damage, thanks to your flamethrower, on the night that clarity healed you, but your damage occured after all the other actions, so you weren't healed. I can see how you could consider that a mod error even though it may not be.

Going to wait until S&B flips until attempting to figure out whether what Prom just said makes any sense
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 07:52 GMT
#5918
Syllo, are you seriously just going to ignore the fact that either 1) both Iamp and Hapa are lying or 2) there is a re-director
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 07:54 GMT
#5919
That's why I'm waiting until S&B flips because people who he has allegedly targeted have experienced some weird things (Oats not receiving a heal and now something messing with you).
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 07:56 GMT
#5920
On December 03 2012 16:50 syllogism wrote:
Hapa I can symphatize if you really took 50 damage, thanks to your flamethrower, on the night that clarity healed you, but your damage occured after all the other actions, so you weren't healed. I can see how you could consider that a mod error even though it may not be.

Going to wait until S&B flips until attempting to figure out whether what Prom just said makes any sense


I talked to GreYMisT and he explicitly said I received the wrong PM. He said I took no damage on that night, and should have received a message stating that I was healed. It's straight-up mod-error, and not my perceptions of what transpired over the night PM's.

Anywho, I'm probably going to punch a hole through my wall if I have to talk about N3 role PM's any more. G'gnite.
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