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CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 18:52 GMT
#5201
On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote:
A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical.

Imp: me no can heal.


Invoker can carry 2 abilities at a time...
Mafia smurf
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#5202
Acro, what is pgo?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#5203
On December 01 2012 03:30 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. I think I'm done.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgRwUW7S2s2HdHFnd1J0T2hzWmNKTmR5R2xUZ1dzNnc

Not making it editable. Last time I made my spreadsheet editable Caller played with it. If there's something wrong, let me know in the thread.

Weird shit that needs explaining:
Hapa heal on D3.
Syllo doing damage and roleblocking on the same night.
Prom claiming less damage than Syllo claimed to deal.
Drazerk claiming less damage than Kita claimed to deal... twice.
Kita claiming no damage when Drazerk claimed to deal it.
Drazerk dealing less damage than he should have on N4.

There are lots of unclaimed roleblocks.
There seem to be too many protective roles and way less damage dealing roles than makes sense balance-wise.

All members of the N4 party took 75 damage, so it could have been the event, or it could be scum activated to deal damage to the party.

My day1 damage wasn't 100 (I don't recall ever reporting the amount). It was also self-inflicted so it shouldn't matter for the sake of tracking sources.
I have more information on a couple of things that need explaining, but I can't definitively answer them, so I don't know if its worth it yet.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 30 2012 18:56 GMT
#5204
On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote:
A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical.

Imp: me no can heal.

Honestly, I think Drazerk is lying about everything he has done this game. His role sounds OP compared to mine: I haven't tried all my abilities yet, but I have not yet stumbled upon anything as powerful as the nuke Drazerk claimed to use last night. Kush had one, but it was his ONLY ability. I also only have 9 abilities and can't know what they do until I fire them.

He claims 250 HP, but never takes the damage he's supposed to and doesn't die when he's supposed to. He claims to be able to nuke for retarded amounts, which don't line up with what actually hits. He doesn't hit Kita with the damage he claims he is doing.

Imho one (or both) of Drazerk and Kita is lying about the damage they've been dealing to each other. Add that to the absolute weirdness of Drazerk's role and I am quite convinced Drazerk is lying.
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 18:57 GMT
#5205
I'm not even lying
Mafia smurf
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 30 2012 18:59 GMT
#5206
Oh, and H1 is in a similar situation: it's not completely the same, but he doesn't just get knowledge of his abilities for free at night.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 30 2012 19:00 GMT
#5207
On December 01 2012 03:57 CaveJohnson wrote:
I'm not even lying

To be fair, the damage on Toad could be Toad lying or scum using some protection on him as well.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 30 2012 19:08 GMT
#5208
On December 01 2012 03:48 syllogism wrote:
I think sandroba roleblocked me n2 if actions and lynch are processed simultaneously. I do not believe risk was roleblocked or if he was, it was by a third party for no apparent reason. It is certainly extremely unlikely for mafia to roleblock risk over some of the claimed roles. It's possible that he was roleblocked by a town aligned roleblocker, but I've asked the person in question to claim and I think he would have. I didn't know about drazerk claiming roleblock n3 though.

It's possible that there are roles that have a passive/active ability that roleblocks anyone who visits them or something, I suppose.

In the interest of sharing, I'll claim the roleblock on your n2. I got to use a 150 HP jailkeep for being in the party cycle 1.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#5209
On December 01 2012 03:57 CaveJohnson wrote:
I'm not even lying

Ok. Explain to us how "Spicy Jerky" was supposed to work.
Explain to us what Dota ability coincides with Turducken.
Give us your theories on who, what and why you were saved last night.
Tell us what EMP was supposed to do.
Tell us what you did N2.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#5210
On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?

Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
November 30 2012 19:12 GMT
#5211
On December 01 2012 03:56 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:50 Promethelax wrote:
A thought Acro, you said you had 9 abilities right? And draz has 27, but only learns about two a night? I doubt it, three seems much more logical.

Imp: me no can heal.

Honestly, I think Drazerk is lying about everything he has done this game. His role sounds OP compared to mine: I haven't tried all my abilities yet, but I have not yet stumbled upon anything as powerful as the nuke Drazerk claimed to use last night. Kush had one, but it was his ONLY ability. I also only have 9 abilities and can't know what they do until I fire them.

He claims 250 HP, but never takes the damage he's supposed to and doesn't die when he's supposed to. He claims to be able to nuke for retarded amounts, which don't line up with what actually hits. He doesn't hit Kita with the damage he claims he is doing.

Imho one (or both) of Drazerk and Kita is lying about the damage they've been dealing to each other. Add that to the absolute weirdness of Drazerk's role and I am quite convinced Drazerk is lying.


Well duh. I consider this as fact: Everything Toad says at this point is a lie and intended to misguide town.

Now here I put forth case a and b. They both concern the same event.

case.a
On November 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote:
holy crap someone shot me for 710 dmg.


case.b
On November 29 2012 10:22 Toadesstern wrote:
Oh i really took 750 dmg but I'm pretty much immortal (again, why does every host give those roles to me? It's like the 3rd time I'm the joker in a row) so you can't really kill me.


Which tells me he didn't take any dmg, hence could be why he didn't shake when I indirectly quizzed him about his hp

On November 30 2012 06:10 Toadesstern wrote:
I already told you, you can't kill me

My HP is in the 4 digits. And well, you'll see what's going to happen after the lynch :p


All of this leads back to Drazerk. The most reasonable explanation is Draz is lying and Toad is using this opportunity to make you guys think he is immortal so we have to lynch him tonight.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 30 2012 19:14 GMT
#5212
On December 01 2012 04:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?

Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.


ah right, I didn't make the connection because I thought it was a name and not a role. Thanks.

@Draz, why are you so sure that your character has to be based on the old invoker?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
November 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#5213
On December 01 2012 04:08 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:48 syllogism wrote:
I think sandroba roleblocked me n2 if actions and lynch are processed simultaneously. I do not believe risk was roleblocked or if he was, it was by a third party for no apparent reason. It is certainly extremely unlikely for mafia to roleblock risk over some of the claimed roles. It's possible that he was roleblocked by a town aligned roleblocker, but I've asked the person in question to claim and I think he would have. I didn't know about drazerk claiming roleblock n3 though.

It's possible that there are roles that have a passive/active ability that roleblocks anyone who visits them or something, I suppose.

In the interest of sharing, I'll claim the roleblock on your n2. I got to use a 150 HP jailkeep for being in the party cycle 1.

so what is that a heal "jail"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#5214
On December 01 2012 04:17 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:08 Keirathi wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:48 syllogism wrote:
I think sandroba roleblocked me n2 if actions and lynch are processed simultaneously. I do not believe risk was roleblocked or if he was, it was by a third party for no apparent reason. It is certainly extremely unlikely for mafia to roleblock risk over some of the claimed roles. It's possible that he was roleblocked by a town aligned roleblocker, but I've asked the person in question to claim and I think he would have. I didn't know about drazerk claiming roleblock n3 though.

It's possible that there are roles that have a passive/active ability that roleblocks anyone who visits them or something, I suppose.

In the interest of sharing, I'll claim the roleblock on your n2. I got to use a 150 HP jailkeep for being in the party cycle 1.

so what is that a heal "jail"

No, it just protects against 150 HP of damage.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#5215
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.
Mafia smurf
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2012 19:22 GMT
#5216
I took a peek through phagga's responses, reading him as town right now. I hammer that out properly tonight.
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#5217
On December 01 2012 04:14 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:11 Acrofales wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?

Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.


ah right, I didn't make the connection because I thought it was a name and not a role. Thanks.

@Draz, why are you so sure that your character has to be based on the old invoker?


Because Quas Wex Exort gave me levitation rather than deafening blast
Mafia smurf
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#5218
On December 01 2012 04:20 CaveJohnson wrote:
Turducken was EMP
Night 2 I used cold snap (Eclair) on Djodref for self preservation reasons. I dunno if he ever got role blocked as a result.
I think Kita was targeted and then screwed with not me.
Spicy Jerky screwed with the first person to visit me and only them.

Screwed with them in what way?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
November 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#5219
I also agree with Dieno that there seems to be a large chunk of scum-directed KP missing on D2. Either they can save KP and unleash it all in one hit (and that hit Marv D3), or town got some lucky protects off.

We have a claimed protection on Syllo. Iamperfection claims he was healed and took 30 damage, so some might have gone there (although I cannot for the life of me figure out why). It still all feels rather light.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#5220
On December 01 2012 04:23 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:14 Promethelax wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:11 Acrofales wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:53 Promethelax wrote:
Acro, what is pgo?

Already explained in the thread. Paranoid Gun Owner.


ah right, I didn't make the connection because I thought it was a name and not a role. Thanks.

@Draz, why are you so sure that your character has to be based on the old invoker?


Because Quas Wex Exort gave me levitation rather than deafening blast


why is you role based on the invoker at all? Why do you have the food stuff/spell names interchangeable in your head? Why do you always insist on saying you have a crazy role? Who is scum who is town?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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