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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 28 2012 03:59 GMT
#4421
No need to call me names

You get an anti-town check revealed on yourself, you decided to claim survivor and you that we would all be fine and dandy with it?

I guess we just wait to see if the rest of the town shares my views.

Gnight.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 28 2012 04:24 GMT
#4422
On November 28 2012 12:59 kitaman27 wrote:
No need to call me names

You get an anti-town check revealed on yourself, you decided to claim survivor and you that we would all be fine and dandy with it?

I guess we just wait to see if the rest of the town shares my views.

Gnight.


WTF ?
Are you implying that you have a strong town read on Hopeless ?

Given TC revelation, which we cannot trust at 100% by the way, Hopeless and Acro have different alignments. I you had told me this before Acro declined to be on the party, I would have said Acro 100% town and Hopeless 100% scum. The fact that Acro declined to be in the party shows that he has town interest in mind imo.
Anti-town check on Acro ? This is bullshit imo.

I believe in Acro's claim and I think he has shown that he was more on town side.

@Acro

Could I ask you to use one of your "health" abilities on me today to show your good will ? You might have some better ide so I'll let you decide.
Would you mind if you could make us a report of your night activities starting today ?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 28 2012 04:29 GMT
#4423
On November 28 2012 13:24 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 12:59 kitaman27 wrote:
No need to call me names

You get an anti-town check revealed on yourself, you decided to claim survivor and you that we would all be fine and dandy with it?

I guess we just wait to see if the rest of the town shares my views.

Gnight.


WTF ?
Are you implying that you have a strong town read on Hopeless ?

Given TC revelation, which we cannot trust at 100% by the way, Hopeless and Acro have different alignments. I you had told me this before Acro declined to be on the party, I would have said Acro 100% town and Hopeless 100% scum. The fact that Acro declined to be in the party shows that he has town interest in mind imo.
Anti-town check on Acro ? This is bullshit imo.


Errm not sure what you are saying here. He already claimed that he wasn't town.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 28 2012 04:38 GMT
#4424
On November 28 2012 13:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 13:24 Djodref wrote:
On November 28 2012 12:59 kitaman27 wrote:
No need to call me names

You get an anti-town check revealed on yourself, you decided to claim survivor and you that we would all be fine and dandy with it?

I guess we just wait to see if the rest of the town shares my views.

Gnight.


WTF ?
Are you implying that you have a strong town read on Hopeless ?

Given TC revelation, which we cannot trust at 100% by the way, Hopeless and Acro have different alignments. I you had told me this before Acro declined to be on the party, I would have said Acro 100% town and Hopeless 100% scum. The fact that Acro declined to be in the party shows that he has town interest in mind imo.
Anti-town check on Acro ? This is bullshit imo.


Errm not sure what you are saying here. He already claimed that he wasn't town.


It doesn't mean that he is anti-town. You are clearly discrediting him when you say that we have an anti town check on him because that's not true and Acro's behavior has been clearly pro-town. He has been considered as a potential party member if you don't remember the reason why we he started to look suspicious.
Anti town check ? What are you referring to ?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18254 Posts
November 28 2012 04:38 GMT
#4425
There was still no anti-town check. There was a parity check with someone whose alignment I don't know. You claiming you DO know H1's alignment?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 28 2012 04:46 GMT
#4426
One more thing that speaks in Acro's favor is that he is apparently in our group of 50 damage over two cycles. Clarity, iamp Acro and me have reported the same amounts of damage taken D2 and D3. I think that we have been targeted because we were vocal players on D1. Not sure if it comes from mafia or 3rd party but, as I consider Clarity and iamp town, I suspect more an ability of a mafia player.
In this case, either Acro was lying about it, either he is indeed 3rd party.

I really don't think that we should consider him as a target or a lynch candidate before we find other mafia players.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 28 2012 06:08 GMT
#4427
Cavejohnson still waiting for you to tell me why you asked if I received a seed
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
November 28 2012 07:55 GMT
#4428
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 08:00 GMT
#4429
On November 28 2012 15:08 syllogism wrote:
Cavejohnson still waiting for you to tell me why you asked if I received a seed

Play the god damn game or at least google T_T
Mafia smurf
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 28 2012 08:39 GMT
#4430
Drazerk you are completely worthless as always

I've decided for now that Prom's claim is plausible, even if the timing, execution and subsequent behavior are suspicious. The initial claim was compeltely ridiculous and anyone who believed such a role is likely to be in the game is naive. What he claimed at first was a role that could not only make a person completely invulnerable, but it also functioned as a semi-watcher role; a player of any alignment that gets roleblocked wouldn't know the source and would be forced to claim. Now that we know roleblock does not prevent factional KP (and I consider it likely that there is non-role based mafia factional KP) and that he can't always use it every cycle, it is more believable. Moreover, the claim is a bit too complicated and too easily veribiable to be a sane mafia claim (his sanity is still in question, however).

The fact he initially refused to claim his other ability or flavor and decided to attack and suspect a near confirmed town still doesn't make sense. I was also suspicious of sandroba immediately confirming that he visited me, instead of showing skepticism towards Prom's claim.
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 08:55 GMT
#4431
What did you even think I could possibly want it for lol
Mafia smurf
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 28 2012 09:03 GMT
#4432
I've no idea, but you asked a question and I presumed there may have been some meaning behind that. Next time I will just assume that your questions are meaningless.

Instead of telling me to google or play the game, why not just answer the question?
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 09:16 GMT
#4433
The seed would of guaranteed a victory for any mission in this time period. Its probably the most important item in the game especially in this time hence I asked if it was the item.
Mafia smurf
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 28 2012 09:28 GMT
#4434
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 28 2012 10:41 GMT
#4435
@CJ

Any idea for where the 1 comes from in your 201 damage taken claimed today ?
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
November 28 2012 11:32 GMT
#4436
On November 28 2012 06:37 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 06:25 Dienosore wrote:
On November 28 2012 06:11 Promethelax wrote:
On November 28 2012 06:09 Dienosore wrote:
Fuck, I keep forgetting Oats can't be in it... I remember now that I said TheChronicler earlier, but honestly I'm open to all suggestions.


well stop being open to suggestions. Scum must have some influence on this game. Get your butt in gear and make one town read on your own.


Unless I hear the majority of people telling me to change my vote, I have chosen TheChronicler based on my town read.

Why are you insisting that scum must have some influence? Are you perhaps threatened by the fact that you don't think your viewpoints aren't being heard or agreed on by the general populace? Enough so, that it makes you want to reinforce to the admitted new guy that scum are constantly lurking around, so you can verify to yourself that what you are doing is actually working?

You should really stop making your anger at me because I just wont fucking die so obvious.



So you're saying you don't trust your own reads, and consider scum (who you've gone to no lengths to spot) are automatically a non-threat? Please play some newbie games after you're done here, so a coach can teach you how to play...


As for electing you leader I've been thinking that having a heavily HP-damaged town get a item would make him a strong mafia target, and by electing you we'd lose the item and a "confirmed town."

But then I remembered that there are several "confirmed town" 10X more useful than you. It won't be an easy decision for scum to kill you, and I actually would rather have you die than them. To that end anything that could make you a stronger target than someone such as Syllo or Keir is something I'm completely for.



##Unvote
##Vote: Deino


However incompetent I think you are, I also have a town read on TC, and am confident that the party you've proposed will succeed.



You have some nerve. I have not seen a single case of you this game, your filter is almost completely devoid of any scumhunting, and you go and lecture dieno on how to play? Dieno achieved something in this game that you have not yet done, he has established himself as town. That is already worth a lot for town. You may not agree with his methods of doing it, but he was one of the fastest established townies in this game.

But you come in the thread regularly and have nothing better to do than to mock him. Do you think this is creating the kind of town atmosphere we need to win this game? What is the benefit for town of you calling him incompetent, bad and mocking his playstile? I don't see one.
On November 28 2012 08:51 goodkarma wrote:
I'll make a definitive case on you yet today. Just don't lurk too hard in the meantime.

Ah, finally you make a case!
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote:
My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now...

In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist:

1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out.
2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read...
3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar...
4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too.
5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party
6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later...
7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter.
8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...).
9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions.
10) Toad - Scum
11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read...


Oh noes, you couldn't be arsed to make a case, instead you throw out this worthless list where you throw some dirt around with barely any explanation.

On November 28 2012 10:25 goodkarma wrote:
Correction: I'm a good town player when I don't drink while playing. I'm going to take a break from thread, and play damage control tomorrow.


Like I care. If you are too drunk to play, don't play. If you play, I don't care about your state, i will hold you responsible for your actions.


"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
CaveJohnson
Profile Joined October 2012
278 Posts
November 28 2012 11:59 GMT
#4437
On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote:
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?


It sounds like a clone of mine just with supportive abilities rather than offensive abilities I know mine is balanced VIA my HP so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't take much to kill Acro if you want to remove him from the game.

Also no idea where the 1 came from probably a fizzled attack or something.
Mafia smurf
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 28 2012 12:34 GMT
#4438
On November 28 2012 20:59 CaveJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 18:28 syllogism wrote:
Thanks, that is actually helpful. Do you have any idea what Acro's role is, based on your role?


It sounds like a clone of mine


you claiming third party?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
November 28 2012 12:38 GMT
#4439
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 28 2012 12:39 GMT
#4440
I think iamp phrased it quite perfectly. The gods are mocking us.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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